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post #241 of 326
8/15/10 at 2:06am
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Originally Posted by skibum5000 View Post

i believe they got canceled back in 1983, Dan's still living in the 80's (early at that)


there was some talk they might extend things and have ROTJ be #9 and earlier outlines has 7-9 post ROTJ, from what I hear, and focusing on the struggles of re-building a new government and the pitfalls and troubles that can occur and ok you won but now make the universe run without getting sucked into evil empire like ways yourselves. supposedly to be set when luke/leia/han were more like i their 50's or something? and only pretty loose and super brief and sketchy outlines. What is clear is that they would've had absolutely nothing at all to do with all that Dark Empire crap by that comic book guy.


anyway all of that is long canned, lucas made 6 ROTJ obviously and he doesn't want to bother with 7-9 or seem to feel the story is worth going through all the trouble, i doubt he will ever make them

In the mid 90's senor spielbergo offered to direct 7-9 and Lucas said he was not interested
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post #242 of 326
8/16/10 at 6:26am
So I guess we won't be seeing these anytime soon then? Too bad, because 2011 would have been an obvious choice, with it being the 30th anniversary of Raiders.

I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I'd much rather have Indy than Star Wars on blu and I have no interest in a box set that only includes the SEs and the prequels.
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post #243 of 326
8/16/10 at 7:09am
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Originally Posted by worth View Post

So I guess we won't be seeing these anytime soon then? Too bad, because 2011 would have been an obvious choice, with it being the 30th anniversary of Raiders.

I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I'd much rather have Indy than Star Wars on blu and I have no interest in a box set that only includes the SEs and the prequels.

The Star Wars prequels don't excite me although Episodes 4-6 would be nice even if they are the SE versions (I would still prefer the originals), but I still prefer Indy too.
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post #244 of 326
8/16/10 at 8:50am
Dang it! When are they gonna announce these? They're already sitting on new masters. Are they just waiting for bonus material or three or four years for another movie to not get off the ground?
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post #245 of 326
8/19/10 at 12:42pm
Just watched Raiders, for the first time in HD and on a 115" screen.
Wow, this movie was made for this.
Spielbergs direction and the way he filmed it is so epic

Can't hardly wait for the real thing
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post #246 of 326
8/19/10 at 5:02pm
These were repeatedly screened on Sky HD in the UK. I thought the quality was very good.
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post #247 of 326
8/19/10 at 6:53pm
The first three episodes look pretty nice upconverted on my Oppo BDP83 and 118" screen.

But come on George...you and I ain't getting any younger. And I doubt seriously you really need to worry about just "when" the time is right to bring in the most money. How much more could you need at this point?

Life is short. Give them to us on Blu-Ray soon. Please.
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post #248 of 326
8/20/10 at 6:11am
Since Star Wars was annouced for next fall, I am not sure what this does for the Indy movies. They could release them anytime, but fall entering into holiday season is ideal even though the Indy set would sell regaurdless.

I am betting we will have to wait until Fall 2012. Which is too long to wait.
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post #249 of 326
8/20/10 at 6:30am
If the rumors of a fifth movie are true, they are going to wait and tie the Blu-ray release into that whole marketing push when and if it happens.
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post #250 of 326
8/20/10 at 8:21am
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These were repeatedly screened on Sky HD in the UK. I thought the quality was very good.

I thought so too
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post #251 of 326
8/20/10 at 8:24am
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I thought so too

They look OK the BBCHD versions were better, and they are all cut.
But the WOW JP HDTV versions destroy the SKY and BBC versions
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post #252 of 326
6/18/11 at 10:33am
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Originally Posted by giantchicken View Post

If the rumors of a fifth movie are true, they are going to wait and tie the Blu-ray release into that whole marketing push when and if it happens.

Frank Marshall the producer was on "Geek Time" yesterday the transfers for the blu-rays are done and approved by Spielberg with of course modifications
directors love to change things, all he said was changed was the brightness during the jungle chase at the beginning of the film, Spielberg felt it was too dark, we'll see. he gave no release date but having the blu-rays done and approved i'm betting spring 2012 which has been speculated elsewhere too.
check out geek time on Sirius channel 101 on Fridays at noon est if you don't want to contribute to Howard Stern's $100 million salary geek time can also be found on bit-torrent
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post #253 of 326
6/18/11 at 10:36am
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Originally Posted by dargo View Post

Frank Marshall the producer was on "Geek Time" yesterday the transfers for the blu-rays are done and approved by Spielberg with of course modifications
directors love to change things, all he said was changed was the brightness during the jungle chase at the beginning of the film, Spielberg felt it was too dark, we'll see. he gave no release date but having the blu-rays done and approved i'm betting spring 2012 which has been speculated elsewhere too.
check out geek time on Sirius channel 101 on Fridays at noon est if you don't want to contribute to Howard Stern's $100 million salary geek time can also be found on bit-torrent

Hmmm....I always liked the dark sequence of the jungle as it added to some mystery and a certain feel....hopefully it's not overly bright now.
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post #254 of 326
6/18/11 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by dargo View Post


Frank Marshall the producer was on "Geek Time" yesterday the transfers for the blu-rays are done and approved by Spielberg with of course modifications
directors love to change things, all he said was changed was the brightness during the jungle chase at the beginning of the film, Spielberg felt it was too dark, we'll see. he gave no release date but having the blu-rays done and approved i'm betting spring 2012 which has been speculated elsewhere too.
check out geek time on Sirius channel 101 on Fridays at noon est if you don't want to contribute to Howard Stern's $100 million salary geek time can also be found on bit-torrent

Cant they leave well alone!!!
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post #255 of 326
6/18/11 at 9:22pm
I'd definitely take that comment with a grain of salt. I don't think Spielberg would screw this franchise up. At least I hope not. I am getting impatient though. We need these movies on BD. I've had such an itch to watch the first three that I've resorted to the DVDs. Guh.
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post #256 of 326
6/18/11 at 9:26pm
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Originally Posted by dargo View Post

Frank Marshall the producer...
modifications...
directors love to change things, all he said was changed...
the jungle chase at the beginning of the film

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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Cant they leave well alone!!!

Serenity Now!
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post #257 of 326
6/19/11 at 3:05pm
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Originally Posted by worth View Post

So I guess we won't be seeing these anytime soon then? Too bad, because 2011 would have been an obvious choice, with it being the 30th anniversary of Raiders.

I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I'd much rather have Indy than Star Wars on blu and I have no interest in a box set that only includes the SEs and the prequels.

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The Star Wars prequels don't excite me although Episodes 4-6 would be nice even if they are the SE versions (I would still prefer the originals), but I still prefer Indy too.

Same here and I don't even care for Star Wars any longer. Agree with worth fully on the 30th Anniversary for Raiders of the Lost Ark.

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I'd definitely take that comment with a grain of salt. I don't think Spielberg would screw this franchise up. At least I hope not. I am getting impatient though. We need these movies on BD. I've had such an itch to watch the first three that I've resorted to the DVDs. Guh.

Same. I haven't even seen the WOWOW JP HDTV broadcasts of the Indy trilogy! Well screenshots of course never count compared to actually watching it.

EDIT: Spielberg is only changing the brightness a slight bit most likely for the jungle scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Might be due to the print they were taking the master from?
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post #258 of 326
6/19/11 at 3:36pm
The WOWWOW stuff is stunning
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post #259 of 326
6/19/11 at 3:52pm
Spielberg recently commented on the coming release of Jaws on Blu-Ray that after the fiasco of changing E.T. that he would never again alter any of his films for future release.
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post #260 of 326
6/19/11 at 5:59pm
Raiders has already been altered for the DVD release, and I doubt he's changing it back.
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post #261 of 326
6/19/11 at 6:23pm
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Originally Posted by giantchicken View Post

Raiders has already been altered for the DVD release, and I doubt he's changing it back.

What did they change for the DVD?

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Originally Posted by jasongt06 View Post

Spielberg recently commented on the coming release of Jaws on Blu-Ray that after the fiasco of changing E.T. that he would never again alter any of his films for future release.

I was about to bring up the same thing.. Dargo says there are "modifications", but Spielberg himself said that there will be no tinkering with any of his films, period, the end. They are what they are, no matter how messed up they are.

Both of those statements can't be correct.
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post #262 of 326
6/19/11 at 7:18pm
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Originally Posted by Jedi2016 View Post

What did they change for the DVD?


I was about to bring up the same thing.. Dargo says there are "modifications", but Spielberg himself said that there will be no tinkering with any of his films, period, the end. They are what they are, no matter how messed up they are.

Both of those statements can't be correct.

Removed the reflection in the safety glass of the cobra in the Well of Souls scene. But they altered a line in The Last Crusade where Donovan attempts to give the trinkets/etc. to the Majesty of Hatay.
WOWWOW looks like film and the BBC looks to be a heavily DNR/EE mess. Either one doesn't matter since Spielberg isn't going to use either master for the upcoming Trilogy. My take is he either made 4K or 6K masters for the three.
I think slightly brightening a shot to match others, especially in the Jungle Chase scene where it shows, I take it might've been something overlooked back in the editing room in 1981. Sure it's a minor fix and as stated he recommended people to watch the Theatrical of E.T. as he's disowned the 20th Anniversary version.
I'm still hoping for deleted scenes as extras in HD.
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post #263 of 326
6/19/11 at 9:09pm
That opening could use some brightening. Must be a totally new master because I recently saw an HD version, and the opening was as dark as I recall.
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post #264 of 326
6/19/11 at 9:23pm
The WoWWoW version has strange contrast, personally find it rather fatiguing, lots of highlights are clipped and result in blowout. Next colors tend to bloom at certain levels of luminance.

Perhaps it has to do with originating country having a different color temp standard.

Aside from that detail is amazing.

When the BRs are released hopefully the detail remains, if not even better, with less digital nearly dynamic mode like quality contrast that is more organic to 35mm.

Best Regards
KvE
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post #265 of 326
6/19/11 at 9:44pm
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Originally Posted by Ray Rogers View Post

Removed the reflection in the safety glass of the cobra in the Well of Souls scene. But they altered a line in The Last Crusade where Donovan attempts to give the trinkets/etc. to the Majesty of Hatay.
WOWWOW looks like film and the BBC looks to be a heavily DNR/EE mess. Either one doesn't matter since Spielberg isn't going to use either master for the upcoming Trilogy. My take is he either made 4K or 6K masters for the three.
I think slightly brightening a shot to match others, especially in the Jungle Chase scene where it shows, I take it might've been something overlooked back in the editing room in 1981. Sure it's a minor fix and as stated he recommended people to watch the Theatrical of E.T. as he's disowned the 20th Anniversary version.
I'm still hoping for deleted scenes as extras in HD.

I believe removing "Jewish" from that line was done back during original production. It isn't there on my ancient VHS copy.
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post #266 of 326
6/19/11 at 9:59pm
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I believe removing "Jewish" from that line was done back during original production. It isn't there on my ancient VHS copy.

Oh right that was it and it's Sultan of Hatay, not Majesty from what I recall. Self correcting of course. The line wasn't even in the print I was watching when Cinema 9 was having Flashback Features which also had The Last Crusade. I guess the Jewish line was easy since Donovan gets walked in front of. Only thing I really wish would change for Last Crusade where "If you are a Scottish lord then [different sounding voice] I am Mickey Mouse!" They shot it as Jesse Owens instead of the last bit being Mickey Mouse. More due to it being kinda shoddy ADR.

The WOWWOW still has the red skintones on overcrank. Hopefully that's remedied with the new masters. But at least it has far more film grain in comparison to the DNR/EE mess which is the BBC broadcast. The former appears to be far more film-like and BBC to be "Pattonised".
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post #267 of 326
6/20/11 at 8:06am
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

They look OK the BBCHD versions were better, and they are all cut.
But the WOW JP HDTV versions destroy the SKY and BBC versions

the bbc versions still use the old masters (best way to tell is whilst the belloq and indy in the bar scene is on there is slight negative damage visible in the form of a thin blue line down certain shots ((dodgy camera!)) it also appears iirc in a few of the dig shots too theres also a nice smudge in the centre of the screen in the tracking shot with belloq at the dig)
in the sky masters these have been cleaned up
the weirdest part- the bbc version has a CG replacement truck going off the cliff
and the sky version is more like the original cliff shot
i have never found any official word on these inconsistencies (been bugging me for awhile!) i saw a recent (2005 onwards cant remember the exact year) print of raiders and that too had the same damage to it
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post #268 of 326
6/20/11 at 12:34pm
LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_sFW8grQtU
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post #269 of 326
6/20/11 at 1:41pm
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post

LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_sFW8grQtU

The description is a joke, "it cannot be physically filmed"
That discribes every FX shot in the history of motion pictures

http://siskelandebert.org/video/XYK4...nst-Harry-1990
14.44 He used to be about the pure movie
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post #270 of 326
6/21/11 at 3:38am
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The description is a joke, "it cannot be physically filmed"
That discribes every FX shot in the history of motion pictures
Actually, the quote is "this does not look like it could be physically photographed".

Every effects shot in RAIDERS was physically photographed.

Sure, it might've been a matte painting with an animated character or something but it was accomplished physically, in the real world, and not in a virtual environment where extravagantly designed and perfectly executed camera moves suddenly become possible.

So, yeah, it looks like a clashing of aesthetics with the rest of the film's effects and the "joke" of a description is perfectly valid to me. That shot, as presented, could only have been accomplished with CGI.
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