Indiana Jones Trilogy Blu Ray discussion/speculation thread - Page 2

It's funny with all of the differing opinions, as to which order the 4 films fall in.
BTW, I don't see anyone leaving off Raiders....

I have to admit I'm a fan of Temple. The dining scene and all the insects kind of made it for me. Monkey Brains!

"Chilled" Monkey Brains...

Enjoy all 4...but sorry, Raiders of the Lost Ark is on a level all its own.

The big question is how much will these be tinkered with? Doesn't the newest release of Raiders already have some CGI-revamping done to it?

Egads...thanx for the memory.

They made 14 changes to Raiders to "clean up" the effects (erasing matte lines, effects rigging, one [not all] of the snake reflections, etc.). Nothing on the order of replacing guns with walkie-talkies, but the changes were there. I don't think anything was done to Temple of Doom or Last Crusade, but that might change with the BDs.

(And I totally agree on Raiders being in a league of its own...although TOD would be one of the greatest movies ever made if it ended after the first ten minutes.)

indy is awesome. i dont understand that hatred against part 2.

doom is like the goonies. it is awesome enjoyable fun.

This.

I loved the original trilogy.

The fourth film was just way over the top.

If this turns out to be true, all three will be must buys for me. I don't dislike any of the Indy films (even 4), but RAIDERS definitely trounces the other three in my opinion.

I think we're going to need some new symbolic notation to properly express opinion here.

(1) > (3) > (2^10) > (4^(10^googol))

Alright I am one of the few who really like KOTCS. I think it is a better movie than TOD. I guess if I rated them it would be 1,3,4,2. I really think people didn't give it a fair shot. So far as the complaint that it was over the top, isn't that what all Indy movie are about? Recreating that 50's pulp action? Yeah, the lead lined refrigeration is completely unrealistic as is the monkey scene. Most of the thins that happen in Indy movies are HIGHLY sensationalized. I don't expect to change any minds as it is the internet but, I wish people wouldn't just hate it because of the Alien aspect. I mean there are no Thugee's at least we have that.

Ah yes, the only way to properly serve Monkey Brains!

There is only one truly great movie in the series - Raiders of course. Subsequent films got silly, and campy, and weren't really serious in tone.

Temple of Doom is an execrable film. Astonishingly bad. So bad, that if you like it, you need to revisit your life choices. It's that bad.

Third one was some fun, but it lacquers the memory of the original with a varnish of silliness. It turns Marcus Brody into a clown, same with Sallah - again, takes a serious movie, Raiders, into camp. Tragic.

Fourth movie was tolerable, if only because it restored Marion and Indiana - if in a hamfisted and somewhat silly way. Best part of the movie was the last two minutes.

Please, re-read what I said about Temple of Doom. Seriously.

I don't like two either but I would not say that the people who liked it have to revisit there life choices. Everyone has different tastes when it comes to movies.

I agree. I feel like I have seen the Indy and Star Wars movies too many times the last 20-25 years to REALLY get exited of this news. All the re-releases on LD and on DVD have taken away a bit of it´s glory. Yes I still like the movies, but I don´t cream in my pants over them anymore
There are so many other classics I would want to see released on Blu-Ray BEFORE these.
But still I will rebuy the Indy trilogy for the 1000:nd time, even though RAIDERS is the only one in the trilogy that stood it´s test of time

Yep the excitement gone also especially for star wars!

lol, plenty of people have problems then because Temple got a) worse reviews critically and b) didn't do as well as Last Crusade at the box-office. I'm surprised anyone loves Temple of Doom, it does not compare favorably with Raiders or Last Crusade IMO. It's fun, but there's no character development in it and Shortround is annoying....though at least it's better than KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL, faint praise that may be.

I know what you're saying. Honestly though, I did give it a fair shake, and I WANTED to like it -- hell I wanted to love it -- but the movie's terrible. It just is. None of it worked, from the way it was shot with Kaminski's over stylized cinematography to the overabundance of CGI. And the story wasn't interesting. The middle of it dragged on forever.

Here's how I look at them:

Raiders of the Lost Ark has one the best screenplays of all time. Exposition, character development, and action have never been integrated as seamlessly as in Raiders. The script is really what elevates it above the other films in the series.

Temple of Doom has a far clunkier script, but on a technical level, it's the most accomplished of the series. The production design, effects, camera work and editing are all virtuoso stuff. It's all in service of a tonally inconsistent narrative and some sexist/borderline racist characterizations, but at least they don't get in the way of things, and the set pieces are the series' most inventive.

The filmmaking is a lot less inspired in The Last Crusade, but Sean Connery and the father/son dynamic elevate the film above what otherwise is a slightly fuzzy photo-copy of Raiders.

Kingdom of the Crystal Skull falls victim to a truly terrible script. It's all story and no narrative. Much like the Star Wars prequels, there are a lot of idea crammed in there with no clear vision as to how they should flow or be presented. The showmanship on display by Ford and Spielberg manages to make the film watchable, though sadly not re-watchable.

I'd rank them 1>2=3>>>>4. I'd gladly re-buy the first 3 films on Blu-ray, especially Temple of Doom, which should look glorious in 1080p.

IMHO,

"Raiders" is just a classic film itself. Close to perfect.
"Temple" is just a theme park ride in comparison but IMHO a damned fun and enjoyable one. One I could "ride" again and still have fun with.
"Crusade", (except for the truly inspired opening with River Phoenix) to me is just Raiders redux but not nearly as good, fresh or exciting. The ending totally just peters out. Literally going through the motions in a way. Connery was fun but the "junior!" stuff got old by the 1/2 way point for me.
"Skull" was like a high school reunion 20 years later. Getting together with old friends and reliving the glory days but not fully recapturing them. Nice to see the old gang again but not much new to report.

but what do I know....?

I hear the Blu-Ray versions will have (courtesy of George Lucas) digitally-added scenes of Jabba the Hut guiding Indiana Jones along his various quests.

Yeah what he said

As long as it ain't Jar Jar!

No jar jar but shortround just as bad.

You call him Dr. Jar Jar, lady!

"They made a 4th Indiana Jones movie?"


lol, yea it was titled "Indiana Jones and The Script Of Doom" Very disappointing movie.

My take exactly (with the exception I get tired of "junior!" about the 2nd time I hear it).

For those unaware, the original idea behind Indiana Jones was Lucas and SS were trying to recreate the Saturday morning/afternoon serials they watched as kids.
If you weren't watching television in the 50's and early 60's, it may be difficult to understand what exactly is going on with these films.
IMO, the first 2 films are perfect homages (especially ToD) to those old serials.

"Originally Posted by eweiss
I hear the Blu-Ray versions will have (courtesy of George Lucas) digitally-added scenes of Jabba the Hut guiding Indiana Jones along his various quests"



Actually the guide is going to be Yoda. and instead of walking around with his usual cane, he's going to be using the "Staff Of Rah" from Raiders.

I guess now we have to wait for a set date

I disagree and think all three movies are very good with the original being excellent.

What a shame that we can't get movies like this until they have a "game" to promote. I'll believe they're coming when i actually see some official confirmation as of right now i'm not convinced and we had the same rumors about Jurassic Park albeit on HD DVD last year which also never surfaced.