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Component cables and 480p

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Hey guys,

I'm pretty good with this stuff, but I am absolutely stumped on this problem and I hope you can help.

I just sold my Xbox 360 to a friend. It's a launch unit (component only), so no HDMI. My friend has a Sharp SD CRT, so High Def isn't a big issue for him.

I reset the Xbox's display settings down to 480p for him (the TV has component inputs), but he keeps getting a weird issue. The screen is literally flipped in half. The right side of the screen is on the left side, and vice versa. He says the center of it is fine, but the left and right are completely mirrored.

Any ideas? I've got a spare set of the A/V cables but I'm hoping there's something else we can try before I drive out to take a look at it. Thanks!
post #2 of 15
If it's an SD CRT it's a 480i set. Change the settings to 480i.
post #3 of 15
Simplest explanation would be that his TV doesn't accept 480p. I thought only an HD CRT could display 480p (because if it can do 1080i it has 540 lines of vertical resolution).
post #4 of 15
i thought there were EDTV (480p) crt's, but it sounds like this is a 480i set.... as it was stated above... if they can do 480p it wouldnt take much to do 540p (1080i), so crt kinda skipped the 480p generation
post #5 of 15
So the solution is to hit the HD-SD switch on the cable, which will force the 360 in to 480i mode.
post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 
Even though his CRT has component? I would have thought that having component would allow it to accept 480p...thoughts?
post #7 of 15
i have a 27" sony CRT that i used to use for my 360 that has component inputs and it only accepts 480i
post #8 of 15
"Even though his CRT has component? I would have thought that having component would allow it to accept 480p...thoughts?"

Component does not equal 480p. Component equals 480i to 1080p with better color separation than s-video. There were plenty of SD CRTs with component inputs that only accepted 480i, mostly from 2000-2005.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by darklordjames View Post

"Even though his CRT has component? I would have thought that having component would allow it to accept 480p...thoughts?"

Component does not equal 480p. Component equals 480i to 1080p with better color separation than s-video. There were plenty of SD CRTs with component inputs that only accepted 480i, mostly from 2000-2005.

No I know that component can do anywhere from 480i to 1080p. I meant that I would have thought his TV could accept 480p over component. Lesson learned

I'll dig up the old cable with the toggle switch and see if that fixes it. Thanks guys!
post #10 of 15
I thought the same thing with my 61" SD CRT. I remember when I saw that the PS2 had a component cable that I could purchase. I was so psyched because my set had component inputs. In fact I was so retarded I psyched myself into believing that the picture had to look better because I used the cable even though the PS2 wasn't even outputting a 480i. And then when I got the XBOX and I saw the option to set HD resolutions I thought I was ahead of the game. And for a long time I just couldn't understand why setting to a HD resolution didn't look very different from a SD resolution. Finally after some years I called the Sony rep and inquired about the component input and why it went berserk when I sent 1080i to the set. Come to find out, the set couldn't even accept a 480p signal. When I inquired about what the purpose of the component port was if it couldn't accept an HD signal. The rep basically said that it was to improve the picture quality. I was so disappointed.
post #11 of 15
Component will absolutely provide a better picture even at 480i VS. Composite or S-video. Color reproduction is much more accurate.
post #12 of 15
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Component will absolutely provide a better picture even at 480i VS. Composite or S-video. Color reproduction is much more accurate.

and the white's are much crisper, or so I found
post #13 of 15
"and the white's are much crisper, or so I found"

Most TVs have different settings for component versus other inputs. You could make the whites look the same on any input, it's just at default the set you are referring to produced whites that were more pleasing on component.

"Component will absolutely provide a better picture even at 480i VS. Composite or S-video. Color reproduction is much more accurate."

Yeah, not really. Composite to s-video on a 480i CRT is a huge jump as far as color separation is concerned. S-video to component on a 480i CRT is a negligible improvement at best. The only difference is a minor horizontal color separation difference, but given that the vast majority of SD CRTs struggle to produce even 500 lines of horizontal resolution, the natural horizontal blurriness of the technology covers up any input format advantages.

When it comes to SD CRTs and picking a format to transmit video over, pick the format that is easiest to work with. Meaning, pick the one that all of your devices support, and that is easy for any external switching device to handle.
post #14 of 15
Just get the model number off the TV's backside and find the specs on the intertetz. Then you know for sure what's up.
post #15 of 15
Well I can tell you that if there was a difference between SD and component as far as 480i is concerned I couldn't see one darn difference.
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