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post #421 of 460
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

unfortunately they probably will:

dolphins - chad & the team come back to earth & they have the #1 toughest schedule.

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I also think the Dolphins will fall back a bit this year, but the #1 schedule thing is overrated. It only affects two games. Here is the breakdown:

They play 6 division games in the AFC east

Then the AFC east is already scheduled to play all the teams in the AFC South and NFC South this year, so that is 8 more cames.

That leaves 2 games left, where they will play the teams from the AFC West and AFC North that finished in the same position. So that means the play the Steelers and Chargers, who are both good teams, but doesn't make there schedule all that more difficult than the second place Patriots who will play all the same teams, except they have Denver and Balt instead of Pitt and SD. Sure obviously the Steelers are the best team in that bunch, but Den and SD are a wash, and Balt is only a small step down
post #422 of 460
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Originally Posted by petesimac View Post

Of course to do this the Patsies would actually have to make the playoffs.

HA! Perhaps the Steelers can try to repeat like the Pats already did or will they miss the playoffs like the last time.
post #423 of 460
If we're talking past history - the Steelers have already repeated - twice.
post #424 of 460
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Originally Posted by davdev View Post

t only affects two games. Here is the breakdown:

They play 6 division games in the AFC east

Which are NE, Bills, and Jets, which all battled it out last year, and unless that was a fluke it might happen again.

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Originally Posted by davdev View Post

Then the AFC east is already scheduled to play all the teams in the AFC South and NFC South this year, so that is 8 more cames.

Which include Indy and Tenessee, two of the best teams in the AFC, and Carolina, Tampa, Atlanta, and New Orleans, which was the best conference in the NFC last year. The other two teams, Jax and Houston, are no slouches either, because Houston is finally coming into their own as a team.

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Originally Posted by davdev View Post

That leaves 2 games left, where they will play the teams from the AFC West and AFC North that finished in the same position.

So that means they play the Steelers and Chargers, which you already mentioned as being two of the better teams in the AFC. Basically, their schedule includes 6 of the projected top 10 teams next year (Pitt, Tenn, Indy, NE, SD, Atl).

They've no doubt got a tough schedule, since I don't see any 49ers, Rams, Lions, Radiers, Bengals, Browns, etc... basically, I haven't seen any strength of schedule rankings yet, just projected standings, but they've got a tough road ahead of them.
post #425 of 460
His point was that it may be a tough schedule - but it will be almost equally tough for everyone in the AFC East.
post #426 of 460
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

If we're talking past history - the Steelers have already repeated - twice.

Of course, but my original response was to a post that the Pats would have to make the playoffs, which they have obviously done many times this decade. So I am reminding the poster of recent history, not ancient history.
post #427 of 460
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Which are NE, Bills, and Jets, which all battled it out last year, and unless that was a fluke it might happen again.


Which include Indy and Tenessee, two of the best teams in the AFC, and Carolina, Tampa, Atlanta, and New Orleans, which was the best conference in the NFC last year. The other two teams, Jax and Houston, are no slouches either, because Houston is finally coming into their own as a team.


So that means they play the Steelers and Chargers, which you already mentioned as being two of the better teams in the AFC. Basically, their schedule includes 6 of the projected top 10 teams next year (Pitt, Tenn, Indy, NE, SD, Atl).

They've no doubt got a tough schedule, since I don't see any 49ers, Rams, Lions, Radiers, Bengals, Browns, etc... basically, I haven't seen any strength of schedule rankings yet, just projected standings, but they've got a tough road ahead of them.

I didn't say it wasn't a tough schedule. I said the whole playing a harder schedule because you won the division is overrated. No matter where they finished last year, they were going to be playing all of those teams except Pitt and SD. All finishing first last year did what add those two teams.
post #428 of 460
Maybe the Jets will finally be in the mix-- now that Farvaroo is officially history.
post #429 of 460
All I know is that trying to predict this stuff is pretty much a fool's errand and a waste of time. Just check out the miserable performance of all the so-called experts in predicting this stuff:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...erbrook/090210

We never know what major injury or other unforeseen things will happen to completely change the results from what is expected. We only know that history tells us they will inevitably happen.
post #430 of 460
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Originally Posted by davdev View Post

I also think the Dolphins will fall back a bit this year, but the #1 schedule thing is overrated. It only affects two games.

yea but i was implying its the #1 toughest schedule in the entire nfl which means more wear n tear on the team overall + it also will hurt their overall record for getting even a wildcard spot.
post #431 of 460
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

yea but i was implying its the #1 toughest schedule in the entire nfl which means more wear n tear on the team overall + it also will hurt their overall record for getting even a wildcard spot.

Ah, I thought you were referring to having a more difficult schedule just because they finished in first in the division. I now see your point, and I agree that is a tough schedule. Though considering the AFC East has had relatively easy schedules the last two season, it had to get harder sooner or later.
post #432 of 460
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

yea but i was implying its the #1 toughest schedule in the entire nfl which means more wear n tear on the team overall + it also will hurt their overall record for getting even a wildcard spot.

Yup, I was agreeing with this sentiment, too. This schedule appears to be by far the toughest in the leauge, even when compared to the rest of the AFC East. As mentioned, the AFC East plays all the same except for two games, and those games are:

MIA: Pittsburgh and San Diego
NE: Balitmore and Denver
NYJ: Cincy and Oakland
BUF: Cleveland and KC

I think the point was having easier teams on your schedule, even two of them, really helps give you a confidence boost throughout the season, rather than having to prepare for a treacherous stretch of tough games. There's not a single cupcake team on Miami's schedule (again, based on projections. Every year there's surprises!)
post #433 of 460
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Originally Posted by tighr View Post

Yup, I was agreeing with this sentiment, too. This schedule appears to be by far the toughest in the leauge, even when compared to the rest of the AFC East. As mentioned, the AFC East plays all the same except for two games, and those games are:

MIA: Pittsburgh and San Diego
NE: Balitmore and Denver
NYJ: Cincy and Oakland
BUF: Cleveland and KC

I think the point was having easier teams on your schedule, even two of them, really helps give you a confidence boost throughout the season, rather than having to prepare for a treacherous stretch of tough games. There's not a single cupcake team on Miami's schedule (again, based on projections. Every year there's surprises!)

Ageed. Both MIA and NE will have very difficult schedules next year.
post #434 of 460
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

Maybe the Jets will finally be in the mix-- now that Farvaroo is officially history.

I would have loved to have seen how far he could have taken your boys had he not hurt his arm, Larry. You could see how that affected his release and velocity during those later games. But you know Brett. In a few months that arm is going to be feeling better and he's going to get the itch again...
post #435 of 460
Steelers went from most difficult schedule in 25 years to the 4th easiest in the league next season.
post #436 of 460
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

Steelers went from most difficult schedule in 25 years to the 4th easiest in the league next season.

Then I assume you believe they should easily repeat?
post #437 of 460
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Originally Posted by johnovox View Post

Then I assume you believe they should easily repeat?

If only it were that easy. I still remember all the "one for the thumb" talk in the 1980 season after they won their 4th (SB XIV) in 6 years. Then it took 16 years more years to go back and 26 years till they finally won again in SB XL. You have to enjoy them when they come, because it isn't that easy to repeat.

More than ever what looks like an easy schedule one year doesn't turn out that way the next. Nobody thought Baltimore or Miami would be so good this year. Some other supposed "easy" opponent will probably turn out the same next year.
post #438 of 460
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Originally Posted by johnovox View Post

Then I assume you believe they should easily repeat?

Wish I had your confidence, but nobody easily repeats. Regular season record only determines playoff seeding, it has very little to do with the ease of your postseason schedule.

Now if you told me that the Steelers would only face teams in the postseason that were on their regular season schedule - I'd say that they were more likely than not to repeat.
post #439 of 460
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

Now if you told me that the Steelers would only face teams in the postseason that were on their regular season schedule - I'd say that they were more likely than not to repeat.

they didnt play the cards in the reg season.
post #440 of 460
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

they didnt play the cards in the reg season.

And still, they beat them !
post #441 of 460
They've got TN, Miami, AFC West and NFC North. If the postseason is limited to those teams - they're good.
post #442 of 460
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Originally Posted by hondo21 View Post

Some other supposed "easy" opponent will probably turn out the same next year.

Like the Lions! YEAH!!!!!!
post #443 of 460
Or the Jaguars. They will just lose their cool often enough that the penalties will make them easy to beat. I love those tarps they have however!
post #444 of 460
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Originally Posted by jrcorwin View Post

Or the Jaguars. They will just lose their cool often enough that the penalties will make them easy to beat. I love those tarps they have however!


What happened to the Jags this year was very surprising. I like and respect Jack Del Rio, and they sure had a few legitimate reasons to fall off a bit last year, but they went completely belly up. Next year will be crucial for them; they'll either rebound nicely or begin a long tenure at the bottom of the division.
post #445 of 460
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Originally Posted by petesimac View Post

What happened to the Jags this year was very surprising. I like and respect Jack Del Rio, and they sure had a few legitimate reasons to fall off a bit last year, but they went completely belly up. Next year will be crucial for them; they'll either rebound nicely or begin a long tenure at the bottom of the division.

I don't have respect for Del Rio. His conduct and demenor on the sidelines is unprofessional. He looses his cool and the team behaved the same way.
post #446 of 460
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Originally Posted by jrcorwin View Post

I don't have respect for Del Rio. His conduct and demenor on the sidelines is unprofessional. He looses his cool and the team behaved the same way.

Granted, I'm not in a market where I get to see the Jags a lot, but I've never seen Coach Del Rio act in an unprofessional manner; from what I have seen, he has always been a class act. In that division, I'd much rather see the Jags play well than the Titans. As much as I respect Jeff Fisher, I have just never liked him or the Titans; maybe it's because the Steelers have always had a tough time against them .
post #447 of 460
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

If we're talking past history - the Steelers have already repeated - twice.

How dare you try to go back any further than what would support his stupid ass post?
post #448 of 460
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Originally Posted by CPanther95 View Post

They've got TN, Miami, AFC West and NFC North. If the postseason is limited to those teams - they're good.

So basically what you are saying is that if they don't have to face the Colts or Pats in the postseason (like this year), they have a good chance of repeating. I agree.
post #449 of 460
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Originally Posted by BustHDTV View Post

How dare you try to go back any further than what would support his stupid ass post?

Another classy fan!
post #450 of 460
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Originally Posted by johnovox View Post

So basically what you are saying is that if they don't have to face the Colts or Pats in the postseason (like this year), they have a good chance of repeating. I agree.

They have a "good chance" regardless.

You said "easily repeat" - which I wouldn't agree with.
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