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post #1 of 179
2/3/09 at 12:43pm
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Hi guys - I just ordered a pair of the Outlaw LFM-1 EX's. For $1038, it was too good to pass up. We have a PB13-Ultra, pair of MFW-15's, a Def Tech Trinity, and a bunch of other stuff here.

NO ... it won't be like the old test days. One of the old crew now lives in Tennessee, and another in Texas.

This is just for fun.
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post #2 of 179
2/3/09 at 1:05pm
Woohoo! Your work is much appreciated and sorely missed.
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post #3 of 179
2/3/09 at 1:06pm
Craig,

Most of us use your subwoofer information was "gospel" as quoted by some others, but really using it helped me make an informed decision when I bought my Epik Tower.

I know we all look forward to any new information you bring to the table as it will be unbiased and informative!

On a side note I am jealous of your location in PA. You guys seem to have a much better beer selection in the northeast as opposed to us Texans here. The beer landscape is changing in Texas (for the better!) but still not where it needs to be for a beer nerd

-Chad
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post #4 of 179
2/3/09 at 2:07pm
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Originally Posted by thirdeye11 View Post

Craig,

Most of us use your subwoofer information was "gospel" as quoted by some others


-Chad

+1 on that. I ordered a Trinity based on your review. I can't wait to write how I like it soon!
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post #5 of 179
2/3/09 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by craigsub View Post

Hi guys - I just ordered a pair of the Outlaw LFM-1 EX's. For $1038, it was too good to pass up. We have a PB13-Ultra, pair of MFW-15's, a Def Tech Trinity, and a bunch of other stuff here.

NO ... it won't be like the old test days. One of the old crew now lives in Tennessee, and another in Texas.

This is just for fun.

Are you keeping the dual F112'S or are they on the chopping block?
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post #6 of 179
2/3/09 at 4:54pm
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Are you keeping the dual F112'S or are they on the chopping block?

Those left a long time ago. It was actually dual 113's and a single 112. All went to good homes.
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post #7 of 179
2/3/09 at 5:18pm
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Originally Posted by craigsub View Post

Hi guys - I just ordered a pair of the Outlaw LFM-1 EX's. For $1038, it was too good to pass up. We have a PB13-Ultra, pair of MFW-15's, a Def Tech Trinity, and a bunch of other stuff here.

NO ... it won't be like the old test days. One of the old crew now lives in Tennessee, and another in Texas.

This is just for fun.

Awful glad to see ya back.
And great timing as well!
I'm in "brain freeze" mode so really need your review/insights to tilt me one way or the other.
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post #8 of 179
2/4/09 at 1:27pm
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I got the invoice today for the LFM-1 EX pair. It promises a tracking number sometime tomorrow ...

Maybe they will arrive in time for Valentine's Day. That could score BIG points with da missus ...
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post #9 of 179
2/4/09 at 2:09pm
Craig, you're lucky you still have a missus!
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post #10 of 179
2/4/09 at 2:41pm
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Craig, you're lucky you still have a missus!

I tell myself that everyday.
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post #11 of 179
2/4/09 at 2:58pm
Craig,

Glad to see the addiction goes on. I saw that you aren't going to be able to do tests as in the past but I hope that you will still post your impressions so the rest of us can live vicariously through you.

Also, if that Ultra ever needs a good home....


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Originally Posted by thirdeye11 View Post

Craig,
On a side note I am jealous of your location in PA. You guys seem to have a much better beer selection in the northeast as opposed to us Texans here. The beer landscape is changing in Texas (for the better!) but still not where it needs to be for a beer nerd

Chad,

Just head a "little" north. Denver, Colorado is the "Napa Valley" of beer after all and I see Texas plates on vehicles everyday. Once a year we have a pretty cool beer festival that if you are a beer nerd you HAVE to come to at least once.

http://www.beertown.org/events/gabf/
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post #12 of 179
2/4/09 at 3:06pm
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Originally Posted by thirdeye11 View Post

On a side note I am jealous of your location in PA. You guys seem to have a much better beer selection in the northeast as opposed to us Texans here. The beer landscape is changing in Texas (for the better!) but still not where it needs to be for a beer nerd

-Chad

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Originally Posted by Snowmanick View Post

Chad,

Just head a "little" north. Denver, Colorado is the "Napa Valley" of beer after all and I see Texas plates on vehicles everyday. Once a year we have a pretty cool beer festival that if you are a beer nerd you HAVE to come to at least once.

http://www.beertown.org/events/gabf/

Great beer selection... in PA? Hell, we have the PLCB, (PA Liquor Control Board.) They control everything coming into PA. You can't even buy beer on Sundays, except at a bar, and then it's *only* six-packs. You can't buy beer or wine in grocery stores or mini-marts. Beer can *only* be sold at a beer distributor, and they can *only* sell beer, no wine or liquor. It's silly!

However, we do have some *very* good microbreweries.

Craig
(I'm *not* craigsub, although I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.)
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post #13 of 179
2/4/09 at 3:11pm
I too just received my invoice for a pair of LFM-1 EXs and I am crossing my fingers that they arrive by Friday (but probably Monday).

From a very rudimentary perspective, can someone suggest a starting trial position for the pair given a standard 5.0 setup with Rocket 850s, 450s and 200?
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post #14 of 179
2/4/09 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by Pratticus View Post

I too just received my invoice for a pair of LFM-1 EXs and I am crossing my fingers that they arrive by Friday (but probably Monday).

From a very rudimentary perspective, can someone suggest a starting trial position for the pair given a standard 5.0 setup with Rocket 850s, 450s and 200?

This is a very good primer

http://www.harman.com/wp/pdf/multsubs.pdf
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post #15 of 179
2/4/09 at 3:14pm
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Originally Posted by Pratticus View Post

I too just received my invoice for a pair of LFM-1 EXs and I am crossing my fingers that they arrive by Friday (but probably Monday).

From a very rudimentary perspective, can someone suggest a starting trial position for the pair given a standard 5.0 setup with Rocket 850s, 450s and 200?

Make sure they are out of the box and in the same room as the speakers.

Oh ... were you looking for more help than that ?

How big is the room ? Often times, if you can place subwoofers right behind the listening position, they are awesome.
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post #16 of 179
2/4/09 at 3:14pm
Hey Craig, congrats on your new addition!


It was mainly through your craigsub reviews and alot of reading that I purchased the PB 13 Ultra a few months ago....wow, what an awesome piece of gear, one of my best additions by far!

You were also kind enough to answer my questions via PM regarding different potential floorstanders for my mains....I ended up with the Rocket 850's back in May and I am still very pleased and happy them.

Have you heard the Police' concert on BD? OMG, simply amazing the way the system all blends so well and sounds freaking rediculously awesome.

Thanks again and Cheers my friend!

Chris in Waterloo.
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post #17 of 179
2/4/09 at 3:16pm
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Originally Posted by JetJockey1 View Post

Hey Craig, congrats on your new addition!


It was mainly through your craigsub reviews and alot of reading that I purchased the PB 13 Ultra a few months ago....wow, what an awesome piece of gear, one of my best additions by far!

You were also kind enough to answer my questions via PM regarding different potential floorstanders for my mains....I ended up with the Rocket 850's back in May and I am still very pleased and happy them.

Have you heard the Police' concert on BD? OMG, simply amazing the way the system all blends so well and sounds freaking rediculously awesome.

Thanks again and Cheers my friend!

Chris in Waterloo.

That's a really nice system. Clean sound from 16 Hz and up ... gotta love it.

Thanks for the tip on the disc !
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post #18 of 179
2/4/09 at 3:37pm
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First new subwoofer purchase in almost a year ...


Slacker.
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post #19 of 179
2/4/09 at 3:43pm
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Originally Posted by STRONGBADF1 View Post

Slacker.

Buckaroo Bonzai plagerizer ...
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post #20 of 179
2/4/09 at 3:48pm
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Buckaroo Bonzai plagerizer ...

That's it! I'm going over to the TCA forum to use the "f" word!
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post #21 of 179
2/4/09 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

(I'm *not* craigsub, although I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.)

Are you a friend of Mark Schifter?

(sorry, I couldn't resist)
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post #22 of 179
2/4/09 at 5:03pm
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Originally Posted by craigsub View Post

Make sure they are out of the box and in the same room as the speakers.

Oh ... were you looking for more help than that ?

How big is the room ? Often times, if you can place subwoofers right behind the listening position, they are awesome.

Actually, I have 2 leather chairs about 6 feet apart and about 13 feet back from the front speakers. I could put one sub behind each chair...
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post #23 of 179
2/4/09 at 5:45pm
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Are you a friend of Mark Schifter?

(sorry, I couldn't resist)

No...

But I play him on TV.


Craig
(not craigsub)
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post #24 of 179
2/4/09 at 6:03pm
craig john
have read your reviews, what is your opinion on Home Theater Direct Subwoofers Level II and or III?
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post #25 of 179
2/4/09 at 6:51pm
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Originally Posted by Pratticus View Post

Actually, I have 2 leather chairs about 6 feet apart and about 13 feet back from the front speakers. I could put one sub behind each chair...

That might work ... or you might get cancellations. You might also try them colocated behind and between the chairs. Experiment - the Outlaw Subs are relatively compact and easy to move.
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post #26 of 179
2/4/09 at 8:22pm
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Originally Posted by artyusmce View Post

craig john
have read your reviews, what is your opinion on Home Theater Direct Subwoofers Level II and or III?

If you are asking me, I don't have any experience with those subs. I think craigsub is really the guy you want.

craig john
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post #27 of 179
2/4/09 at 8:32pm
Nice Craig...looking forward to your thoughts on the Outlaw subs.

I've been really considering getting an LFM-Compact to replace my Acculine Asub, since the sale price is so d$%m good right...but I still haven't made up my mind...
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post #28 of 179
2/5/09 at 2:36pm
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

If you are asking me, I don't have any experience with those subs. I think craigsub is really the guy you want.

craig john

Okay my fault,

Craigsub what do think or know about Home Theater Direct Subwoofers?
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post #29 of 179
2/5/09 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by craigsub View Post

Make sure they are out of the box and in the same room as the speakers.
Oh ... were you looking for more help than that ?

Ah, it's nice to have you back.
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post #30 of 179
2/5/09 at 7:38pm
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Originally Posted by alphaiii View Post

Nice Craig...looking forward to your thoughts on the Outlaw subs.

I've been really considering getting an LFM-Compact to replace my Acculine Asub, since the sale price is so d$%m good right...but I still haven't made up my mind...

It's time you stopped messing around and stepped up to an A7-900.
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