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I am looking to build a media server. This is my first server build of any kind so please be kind.

My primary use for this server will be bluray and DVD iso streaming to my 2 other computers running MyMovies.
Secondary objectives are a low use ftp and http host.

I don't think I will be running RAID on this server. Why? Because at MOST there will be 2 people accessing it at once. Assuming both active users are streaming bluray quality video then I might run into some bandwidth issues. However most of the time this will not be the case and my budget does not allow for a dedicated RAID card. That and from what I have heard RAID isnt any better for saving data then just bare drives.
Since everything will be in MyMovies anyway, I don't care what is on what drive and how many partitions there are as long as its all in fact there.
For right now I will take the cheap way out and just not back any of it up and take the loss of having to copy all of the data to the new hard drive again. My plan is to keep doubles of everything in 6-12 months as the prices of storage keep dropping but for now the risk is acceptable.

One other small concern is that I will be running this server in a walk in closet. I dont think heat should be too bad because I am not using raid so there should be a lot less HDD activity.

My main objective here is to get some kind of server running now and work on improving redundancy/ increasing capacity as time goes on.

I am open to all criticism. Thanks for looking.

Here is my current hardware list
  • OS: Windows Server 2008 64 bit
    Yes you may be thinking overkill but I already have a own legit copy so I might as well use it.
  • CASE:ARK 4U-500-CA $70
    Cant beat the price. No RAID so not need for hot swap bays. Worst case scenario years from now I need more HDD's and I have to buy a new case.
  • PSU: COSAIR 850W $120
    Just kind of picked this one. Dont have any reasons other than price and a brand I know
  • Motherboard: Abit 9WD-MAX
  • CPU: Core 2 Duo E6400
  • Ram: Patriot extreme 2x1GB kit
    Motherboard, CPU, and Ram will be reused from my current desktop and my desktop will get the upgrade. Cost of the new items is $295
    Items going in the server below
  • HDD for OS: Most likely a Seagate 320GB I have laying around
  • HDD for Media: 1.5TB Seagate Drives
    About $120 a piece on the right day
    I am a bit worried about these guys failing due to what people said a few months ago. For now it is still my primary choice
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Why that motherboard and CPU? Are they excess from another project? Both are dated and you would pick other components if you were buying them today.
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Why that motherboard and CPU? Are they excess from another project? Both are dated and you would pick other components if you were buying them today.

Yes they are coming from my desktop that I am using right now. I can't bare the idea that my server would be more powerful than my desktop when its just for streaming media so I am putting the new components in my desktop.
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You mention that you're worried about those Seagate 7200.11's failing... that is a very true reality and you have no redundancy/parity. We're talking hours upon hours of lost time when one of those drives fail.

I would never store my media on something that doesn't have redundancy/parity. Simply backing up is wasteful in my mind too (1:1 back ups)... with UnRaid I need to sacrifice 1 drive for parity (the largest drive... or the same size as the largest... right now I have a TB drive that acts as my parity drive since all my drives are 1TB in size), if a drive fails I am completely backed up for that data. If 2 drives fail I run the risk of losing the data on both drives but the rest of my array is protected/backed up. I have 400+ ripped SD dvd's (7-15 min. a piece to rip) and 60+ 1080p (10-12 hours to rip/encode to a 1080p h264 mkv or 4-8 hours to download) rips right now on my server... to lose a single drive full of them because of a failure that could have easily been avoided would be horrible.

It's very easy to have a media server that has redundancy/parity for cheap. I have a 6TB UnRaid server that is fantastic... the initial components (excluding storage) cost me no more than $300 and that was 10 months ago. I can do a build close to this if not better for much cheaper today ($150). With some VMWare/virtual machine experimenting you can get Server 08 on there also to handle your FTP/HTTP hosting or whatever else. Rather than do this I opted to build a 2ndary server - Phenom 9600 based build that cost me no more than $170 (excluding the HD/Bluray drive for ripping)... it rips, converts, encodes, torrents, and SQL hosts like it is nothing.

I recommend selling off those parts (ram, cpu, mobo since I know you can do better with the money you make from selling them not to mention a heck of a lot more energy efficient to save you $$$ in the long run... that little bit of extra energy you're wasting adds up fast as the year goes on) that you have and start a "proper" build from scratch.
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I appreciate your response. I have done a bit of research on the UNRAID option. Right now I am thinking of trying FLEXRAID. I can run that on my windows server and feel comfortable and warm and fuzzy. I know its not widely accepted yet but I think I might give it a shot. I am still in the preliminary planning stages so Id like to think nothing is set in stone, however... both UNRAID and FLEXRAID are designed to keep you from losing data unlike a RAID 5.


I also understand your argument about time. Currently I am not doing any kind of rencoding. I am just doing straight rips of everything. Reencoding takes too much time that I dont have so the option of just adding more storage will work and will only become increasingly more practical as time goes on.
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