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post #931 of 1144
I see you have a button for Sonos on you iPad controller. Does that just launch the Sonos iPad app or is it customized to fit in with your iRule software?
post #932 of 1144
This is hands down my favorite build. Eagerly awaiting a set of finished pics. Great to have something to aspire too.
post #933 of 1144
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Originally Posted by calincole View Post

This is hands down my favorite build. Eagerly awaiting a set of finished pics. Great to have something to aspire too.

Really? You must not have seen Logan's build yet.
post #934 of 1144
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Originally Posted by gareth_alien View Post

I see you have a button for Sonos on you iPad controller. Does that just launch the Sonos iPad app or is it customized to fit in with your iRule software?

Moggie (and Hanes if you're reading this):
Thanks guys for the encouragement to try SONOS. Got my first box (a ZP90) last night, installed it, and having a grand time, (all in less than 1 hour)
No back to Moggie's regularly scheduled programming ....
post #935 of 1144
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Originally Posted by gareth_alien View Post

Does that just launch the Sonos iPad app or is it customized to fit in with your iRule software?

I hope it will launch the Sonos controller app at some point, but for now the screen jumps instructs the user what to do to switch apps.

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Originally Posted by calincole View Post

This is hands down my favorite build. Eagerly awaiting a set of finished pics. Great to have something to aspire too.

Thank you very much. My favorite build too ... 'cause I get to play in it

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Originally Posted by cuzed2 View Post

Moggie (and Hanes if you're reading this):
Thanks guys for the encouragement to try SONOS. Got my first box (a ZP90) last night, installed it, and having a grand time, (all in less than 1 hour)
No back to Moggie's regularly scheduled programming ....

Awesome! It is just about the easiest device to set up. How are you controlling it?
post #936 of 1144
For the time being I am using n old CR100.
I believe there is an Android in m near future...
post #937 of 1144
Hi Moggie: Now that you have using your masking system for a while, how is the accuracy of the Somfy ILT motor masks? Any issues with the masking system?

Thanks- Mike
post #938 of 1144
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Originally Posted by Mike_2008 View Post

Hi Moggie: Now that you have using your masking system for a while, how is the accuracy of the Somfy ILT motor masks? Any issues with the masking system?

Thanks- Mike

Hi Mike, no issues whatsoever. Accuracy is still to about 1/4" and there has been no drift. My guess is that the ILT motors are extremely accurate and the only error is because of the cloth winding tension variation. BTW I'm typing this reply on ipad/remote - just about to enjoy Sunday afternoon movie (2.4:1) and the masks are wide open... ;-)

Cheers!
post #939 of 1144
Thanks Moggie. I am glad you are enjoying all your hard work.
post #940 of 1144
Any chance of some more photos? Or even a small video tour? This has been my favorite theater build that I've been following and I'm sure others would love to see a video/some pics!

Thanks!
post #941 of 1144
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Originally Posted by Seegs108 View Post

Any chance of some more photos? Or even a small video tour? This has been my favorite theater build that I've been following and I'm sure others would love to see a video/some pics!
Thanks!

I'm glad you enjoyed following along. I'm taking a little break from construction projects (although I'm following many of the builds here) but I'll be back soon with the lobby and hidden entrance build.

I've been busy doing some of my favorite sports:


I think I finally have all the dust out of my system! Actually I have a friend coming over in 2 weeks to take some final photos. I guess I could take a video tour .. I'll see what I can do this weekend.
post #942 of 1144
Can't wait, loved this build and can't wait to see your next set of projects.

Looks like the stuff keeping you busy inbetween is also going well!
post #943 of 1144
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In addition to the subs I also got the LCR's wired up and plugged in a spare Sonos zone player to enjoy some tunes.

The only music that I bare to listen to in such a bare room were live albums so I sat for a while with glass of Chianti and listened to Pink Floyd "Delicate Sound of Thunder" with outrageous uncontrolled base.

Moggie - I just tested out my subs for the first time. My experience is the same "outrageous and uncontrolled" - there is no decay in the bass notes they all just blend together. I am curious to hear your impression of how the subs changed as you got everything tuned and the room treatments in. I wasn't expecting them to sound good at this point I was only making sure the drivers work but was just curious how they changed for you as you completed your room.
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Moggie - I just tested out my subs for the first time. My experience is the same "outrageous and uncontrolled" - there is no decay in the bass notes they all just blend together. I am curious to hear your impression of how the subs changed as you got everything tuned and the room treatments in. I wasn't expecting them to sound good at this point I was only making sure the drivers work but was just curious how they changed for you as you completed your room.

You have a journey ahead towards sonic perfection An IB sub definitely needs EQing. That together with a completely bare room will mean that it is going to sound a mess initially. If I recall I saw (I mean heard) three big steps in improvement:

(i) the first was after the bass treatments. In my case this consisted of the front corner bass traps, 4" of treatment on front and rear walls (faced on rear), the majority of the soffit and, although somewhat unproven, my rear riser. After this was installed the bass was at least listenable.

(ii) installation of furniture. I could definitely hear the difference after 6 large chairs were installed...

(iii) EQ. This took a while and a lot of experimentation. My front row positioning is not great (close to room center) so I definitely got an advantage from my rear subs although learning to EQ two sets of immovable subs was a learning exercise. In the end I used a Berhinger DCX2496. Connected a single sub output from my pre to the DCX. Split that into 3 outputs (front sub, rear and buttkickers), added delay to the rear subs to get the best initial response at my listening positions, EQed the front IB first (including adding some <20hz boost -- had plenty of headroom), then tweaked the rear. Once all this was done I ran Audessey on the pre to EQ the main speakers -- it did very little to the subs. The EQ was done with all the room treatments and carpet installed and this made another substantial improvement.

Bottom line is that it is too early to audition your bass performance...
post #945 of 1144
Thanks for the input. After firing up the sub I've decided to increase the amount of bass trapping I'm going to do in the soffits.
post #946 of 1144
A little late to the party but what you have accomplished is just flat out BEAUTIFUL!! Thank you for sharing your journey!
post #947 of 1144
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Bigham16, DavidK442, thanks, but I'm not actually done with the project, just the inside of the theater. The lobby is progressing at a very slow pace probably because I've been throughly enjoying using the theater.

On the 'money shot' question my photographer friend had some family issues to deal with so I'll probably be on my own if I want to get it done soon. My wife doesn't know it yet but she is buying me a Canon D60 camera for Christmas -- its going to arrive in a few days. I'm hoping this will make up for my lack of photography skills..

Cheers.
post #948 of 1144
So, I have been following Simon's build on the other site. After commenting on what a wonderful job he has done, he told me I had to come here and read Moggie's build thread.

Boy, I am sure glad I did. Just a fantastic job - truly a marvel through the entire room. Congrats Moggie on a job well done!

BTW - totally going to steal the column backlighting idea - that looks perfect!

Joe
post #949 of 1144
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Hi Joe, thanks for stopping by -- glad you didn't get bored reading my long saga! Simon did a great job with this theater and we compared notes many a time.

Steal whatever you want. The column lighting worked out great and couldn't have taken less space. Be sure to document your HT journey..

I'm writing this from a beach on the big Island if Hawaii with a Mai Tai in hand ... got to love technology, although I'm already missing my theater ;-)

Cheers.
post #950 of 1144
an outstanding theater Moggie - and the Ipad remote is really something special.
post #951 of 1144
Have you noticed any sag issues with the way you mounted the IB subs up front now that they have been in for a little while? I'm looking at doing a similar setup and mounting them the way you have yours would work out best for me. I didn't notice but did you end up adding in additional bracing for the boxes?
post #952 of 1144
The subs are still mounted vertically so they should not sag the way they are mounted. If they were horizontal I can see a potential issue.
post #953 of 1144
Damn. Wrong build thread. I just saw it yesterday and meant to post in that one. Now I have to find it again.

Edit: It was KNKKNK who mounted his the other direction. Need to ask him how they are hanging.
post #954 of 1144
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Originally Posted by javry View Post

an outstanding theater Moggie - and the Ipad remote is really something special.

Thanks!
post #955 of 1144
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Originally Posted by vanice View Post

Damn. Wrong build thread. I just saw it yesterday and meant to post in that one. Now I have to find it again.

Yes, Brad (aka KNKKNK) mounted his drivers horizontally but I can't imagine it would create any issues given the robustness of the cones. I have no issues whatsoever.

Cheers.
post #956 of 1144
Moggie,

As you know, I'm trying to finish up my bull nose project so I thought I'd pick your brain.

Did you end up routing the back side of the bull nose that faces the carpet? It looks like you took the sharp edge off. Maybe just sanding it is all you ended up doing?

Did you pre-drill your holes on the back side of the bull nose or just use self drilling screws? Any trick to getting that angle right every time?

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Just in case anybody other than my mother is interested in how the bull nose was made, here is a little summary. It started with the creation of a set of templates drawn onto Masonite directly from the stage/riser profile. I planned and sanded the outside profile by hand then used the offset attachment on my jigsaw to cut a 3.5" wide strip. Then I set about cutting up the hardwood boards to an approximate size and making sure I had complete coverage of the template.


Then using the template and a hand held edge router I cleaned up the rough cuts and joined the sections together on the midpoint of each bend. I used some tape and as I went to ensure an exact match to the template. After each section was complete I glued them together with a couple of pocket hole screws from the underside.


After a while I had one layer of the complete set glued up. These were test fitted and the backside marked so I knew exactly where the stage/riser edge would be on the underside. The second layer (the underside of the bull nose) was made next by sifting through my pile of scrap to find pieces and gluing pieces being careful not to cross over the marked line (edge of stage/riser).


Once ths bullnose lip had set up I used a jigsaw to cut as close to the finished upper surface as possible. The idea was to reduce the quantity of material to be routed and thus reduce the possibility of tearout. Then back to the edge router on the table this time. Final routing procedure was to change to the 1/2" roundover bit (I didn't have a 3/4" and anyway I kind of like the flat edge that results from an undersized bit) and route both the upper and lower surface in several passes. Last step was a bit of sanding cleanup to 150 grit before fitting.


Fitting was performed with polyurethane construction adhesive and screws in the back surface of the trim. That way I would avoid any visible nail holes.


The large sections were joined with a single biscuit joint. A little bit more sanding, tack rag, and some shellac. Mission accomplished!


The walnut I used had a fair amount of sap wood (lighter color). I tried to match the layers as best I could but I found this little mismatch amusing. It is the center join of the stage and is exactly aligned with my room center line scribe (seen in the background). My very own permanent center marker!
post #957 of 1144
Went through this entire thread this weekend..awesome stuff. Finishing up the Cinemar thread is next on the agenda.
post #958 of 1144
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Originally Posted by mcascio View Post

Moggie,

As you know, I'm trying to finish up my bull nose project so I thought I'd pick your brain.

Did you end up routing the back side of the bull nose that faces the carpet? It looks like you took the sharp edge off. Maybe just sanding it is all you ended up doing?

Did you pre-drill your holes on the back side of the bull nose or just use self drilling screws? Any trick to getting that angle right every time?

Hi Mario,

I did route the back side but with a very small radius bit and then finish sanded. This keeps the rounding even and ensures that its not going to splinter later. I forget the radius, perhaps 1/16" or 3/32"..

You MUST pre-drill the holes. Actually I pre-drilled and then used a larger diameter bit to widen the opening so the screw head would not sit proud of the face. The screws I used were the very small head finishing type. I was very careful fitting this and did the final tightening by hand. Experiment on a piece of scrap to get the angle of the drill hole correct and I recommend making a jig to keep the angle consistent.
post #959 of 1144
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Originally Posted by rs691919 View Post

Went through this entire thread this weekend..awesome stuff. Finishing up the Cinemar thread is next on the agenda.

Thanks, I don't want to do another one any time soon though. If the Cinemar build turns out anything like the renderings it's going to be fantastic!
post #960 of 1144
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Originally Posted by Moggie View Post

Hi Mario,

I did route the back side but with a very small radius bit and then finish sanded. This keeps the rounding even and ensures that its not going to splinter later. I forget the radius, perhaps 1/16" or 3/32"..

You MUST pre-drill the holes. Actually I pre-drilled and then used a larger diameter bit to widen the opening so the screw head would not sit proud of the face. The screws I used were the very small head finishing type. I was very careful fitting this and did the final tightening by hand. Experiment on a piece of scrap to get the angle of the drill hole correct and I recommend making a jig to keep the angle consistent.

Perfect. I was wondering if you inset the screw heads too.
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