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post #1741 of 1953
Pardon me if this has already been discussed, but is there a difference in PQ between the Lumis Host and the Lumis?

In other words, any reason NOT to get the Lumis instead of the Host?
post #1742 of 1953
I recall discussions a while back where people claimed better image quality connecting direct to the Lumis vs using the HOST. So I would say no, but I don't really know.
post #1743 of 1953
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian_Currie View Post

Pardon me if this has already been discussed, but is there a difference in PQ between the Lumis Host and the Lumis?

In other words, any reason NOT to get the Lumis instead of the Host?


Personally, I've not seen a difference (having viewed many of both models), and Sim2's official position is there is no difference.


Jim
post #1744 of 1953
If anyone is interested, I'm selling my Lumis bought from Jason at AVSciene a little over a year ago. The unit is in perfect condition with less than 300 hours on the original bulb. I have the original box and everything. I'm also selling my ISCO III bought at the same time.

Reason: Moving and don't have the space anymore.
Price: Send PM - You won't be disappointed.

Best,

Carlos
post #1745 of 1953
Well, I just ordered a Lumis 3d-Solo. I will be upgrading from my C3X 1080. I demo'd the unit a few days ago at Sim2. Very nice. Beautiful 3D images on their 11 foot wide (2.35:1) screen. Plenty bright without any artifacts. The DirecTv images looked the same, even with the lower refresh rate.

When you feed it a 3D signal, the projector automatically increases the brightness. No settings to change.

The batch they just received all have Dynamic Black for 2D. They also have a proprietary IR emitter system made for them by Xpand, which has a curvy box to match the projector. Not that it matters, as you can place the box out of sight. The glasses are also badged with Sim2 logo.

I'll post a review when I get it installed (about 2-3 wks). My C3x1080 will be for sale if anyone is interested (in excellent condition).

Jeff
post #1746 of 1953
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Originally Posted by astrojeff View Post

Well, I just ordered a Lumis 3d-Solo.
When you feed it a 3D signal, the projector automatically increases the brightness. No settings to change.


Jeff

Now that is nifty!!!@@@
post #1747 of 1953
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Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky View Post
Now that is nifty!!!@@@
Well, they have to give you something for the high cost of the projector. Actually, I think they spent a lot in R & D to develop this unit. They are the only ones using the triple flash technology in a consumer unit. Apparently, it was not easy to get all of these features integrated together.

J
post #1748 of 1953
My Lumis, a few months old now, will intermittently show thin blue vertical lines on a dark background, or thin yellow lines on a light background. They never stay for long, not long enough to snap a photograph. Anyone else with this issue?
post #1749 of 1953
Jeff,
I envy you...saw the SOLO and was blown away...let us know how you like it after you've spent some time with it.
post #1750 of 1953
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Originally Posted by gammaman View Post

My Lumis, a few months old now, will intermittently show thin blue vertical lines on a dark background, or thin yellow lines on a light background. They never stay for long, not long enough to snap a photograph. Anyone else with this issue?


I know of one case that was similar to what you are describing and although there may be other causes, Sim2 decided to replace/repair the light engine in that particular PJ and the issue disappeared. FWIW.


Jim
post #1751 of 1953
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Originally Posted by Pete View Post

Jeff,
I envy you...saw the SOLO and was blown away...let us know how you like it after you've spent some time with it.


Although admittedly resistant to 3D (but I do have the Panny 65" VT series 3D, that was a gift), I have to say I finally had the opportunity to spend some time with a Solo and was actually surprised at how good it looked. More surprising to me was the excellent 2D performance. (Disclosure: Sim2 dealer)


Jim
post #1752 of 1953
Jim,

It almost sounds like you are saying the SOLO looked better than the many Lumis projectors you've see. If so, what parts of the 2D PQ lookded better. What SOLO hardware/software changes do you attribute the better PQ?

Thanks,
Paul
post #1753 of 1953
Paul, look for a PM. (Not sales related, contact AVS for sales.)

Jim
post #1754 of 1953
Triple flash sounds good, but I assume their DI can't keep up? What's the native CR?
post #1755 of 1953
Why do 3 chip DLPs cost so much like the Sim2 Lumis 3D-Solo? Do people get good deals when they buy from dealers so they don't pay full retail?

Just curious.
post #1756 of 1953
Sim2 is just expensive no matter how you slice it. I still like it though.
post #1757 of 1953
Quote:
Originally Posted by JlgLaw View Post

Although admittedly resistant to 3D (but I do have the Panny 65" VT series 3D, that was a gift), I have to say I finally had the opportunity to spend some time with a Solo and was actually surprised at how good it looked. More surprising to me was the excellent 2D performance. (Disclosure: Sim2 dealer)


Jim

I really like 3D in theaters [especially IMAX] but I don't have much use for it in the home environment. Of course that could change over time.
post #1758 of 1953
Quote:
Originally Posted by andymnfun View Post

Why do 3 chip DLPs cost so much like the Sim2 Lumis 3D-Solo? Do people get good deals when they buy from dealers so they don't pay full retail?

Just curious.

Many products can be negotiated some pricewise. If you're serious, check with your dealer, including AV Science sales, and find out!
post #1759 of 1953
Quote:
Originally Posted by astrojeff View Post

Well, they have to give you something for the high cost of the projector. Actually, I think they spent a lot in R & D to develop this unit. They are the only ones using the triple flash technology in a consumer unit. Apparently, it was not easy to get all of these features integrated together.

J

DP Titan Reference 3D is also Triple Flash. They added that ability last summer.
post #1760 of 1953
Well, I got my new projector installed and watched a few movies over the weekend. The brightness is noticely improved over the C3X1080 and works out well with my 11.5 ' screen. The black level is also improved and the depth of the image is great. The fan noise is similar to the C3X.

The 3D is excellent. Although the light reaching the eyes is quite diminished by the glasses, it is still enough to give a good 3D experience. The units are now shipping with the Sim2 version of the Xpand glasses. I tried a pair of the Xpands, but could not get them to work. They must use a different IR emitter or coding. Anyway, I guess I'll have to buy some more Sim2 glasses.

I found the service menu code is different from the C3X. Could someone please PM the Lumis code? I would like to test the convergence. Thanks

Jeff
post #1761 of 1953
Hi Jeff, congrats on the new projector!

I'm curious, if or when you get around to it, to hear what you think about your Solo's PureMotion in 2D and in 3D. Isn't this Sim2's take on creative frame interpolation (CFI)?

Thanks,
Paul
post #1762 of 1953
I thought Puremotion was turned off when in 3D mode?

Jeff,
how loud would you say the lumis is? I have not heard the C3X or lumis. Do you know how many FL you are able to get on your screen calibrated?

Thanks
post #1763 of 1953
David,

You might be thinking about a different projector.

The Sim2 website lists PureMotion 3D as a feature of the Solo. In fact, after looking at the User Guide note at the bottom of page 25, I think it's interesting that PureMotion 3D is automatically activated when viewing 3D content. That makes me wonder if it can be turned off if one doesn't like the effect.

Paul
post #1764 of 1953
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Originally Posted by rovingtravler View Post

I thought Puremotion was turned off when in 3D mode?

Jeff,
how loud would you say the lumis is? I have not heard the C3X or lumis. Do you know how many FL you are able to get on your screen calibrated?

Thanks

I will measure the dB when I get a chance. I have the projector directly in my theater about 5 feet behind and above my head. I don't really notice the noise. I get a lot more noise from the NAS device in my rack when watching old archived DVDs. I should move that to another room!

Supposedly the Puremotion is activated with 3D. All I know is that it looks great. I don't notice any motion issues. DLP is great for 3D because of the short latency time, allowing the higher refresh rate (triple flash). I will have to play with the puremotion setting in 2D with some sports broadcasts, and see what difference it makes.

Jeff
post #1765 of 1953
I just bought a Solo today, should be arriving in a week or so. I'm hoping the difference in resolution and contrast between the Lumis and my Infocus 333 will be enough to stop my wife from killing me. When the projector arrives and get's installed I will post some pictures and impressions between the two projectors.
post #1766 of 1953
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hed View Post

I just bought a Solo today, should be arriving in a week or so. I'm hoping the difference in resolution and contrast between the Lumis and my Infocus 333 will be enough to stop my wife from killing me. When the projector arrives and get's installed I will post some pictures and impressions between the two projectors.


Congrats! You will not be disappointed.


Jim
post #1767 of 1953
That is an upgrade for sure!
post #1768 of 1953
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Originally Posted by ccool96 View Post

DP Titan Reference 3D is also Triple Flash. They added that ability last summer.

Really? I don't see any mention of it in their lit or spec sheets.
post #1769 of 1953
Any LUMIS/HOST owners aware of the latest firmware?? Or able to email it to me (PM your email address and I'll reply in email). Having trouble with IP control and I have an older firmware. Want to try it out.

Thanks!
post #1770 of 1953
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

Any LUMIS/HOST owners aware of the latest firmware?? Or able to email it to me (PM your email address and I'll reply in email). Having trouble with IP control and I have an older firmware. Want to try it out.

Thanks!

I'll send it to you. I think I have your email somewhere. I lost my network control at one point - just reloadiing the firmware restored it (acts like a reset).
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