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Inexpensive Video Processor for Subtitle Issues with Anamorphic Lens?

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I have applied anamorphic lens (Prismasonic HD5000M) to my projector (HC5500) and am looking for inexpensive (meaning less than USD1,000 or hopefully less than USD500) video processor which can do the following in order to resolve the subtitle issues:

1) zoom the image to eliminate or lessen the upper and bottom black bars;
2) shift (move) the zoomed image up a little without change the image size, so that the upper black bar will be cut off and the upper part of bottom black bar will be shown a bit to make room for subtitles; and
3) save such setting in the remote.

I asked this issue at DVDO Edge thread and was kindly advised that DVDO Edge can do 1) and 2) (only when zoomed), but 3) is not possible (for 3), it seems that I may have to do something complicated with the remote(to create macro)).

I also checked the manuals of Gefen products (relatively inexpensive ones), but it seems that they do not support zooming and panning except for fixed aspect ratio options. Is it true?

Is there any good inexpensive video processor to fit for my purpose above? Currently, DVDO Edge is the most close one... but is there any other product similar to that?

My BD Player (Samsung 1500) and DVD Player (Pioneer 610AV) will be connected to the video processor. Therefore, 1080p 24fps input capability is also important.

Please help!! Thank you in advance!
post #2 of 10
Lumagen scalers will do what you want. The EDGE will do #2, but as mentioned, only with zoom applied - but, you can apply a tiny amount of zoom in EDGE and make it work. Only downside to Lumagen is DVI EDID stuff, might not be ideal for you depending on sources.
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We posted Lumagen Radiance "Tech Tip 8 - Viewing subtitles on a 2.35 display". This Tech Tip gives the procedure for shrinking the image to make room to display the second line of subtitle below the image. This same basic procedure can also be used for a Lumagen HDP or HDQ video processor.
http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=manuals

Randy Freeman
support@lumagen.com
post #4 of 10
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Thank you, Randy! It is very helpful!

Best regards,
post #5 of 10
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Randy,

Can Lumagen Vision DVI do the same function you explained or what I described above? Thanks.
post #6 of 10
The LumagenDVI has the same support for anamorphic lenses as the HDP and HDQ. You can use the input size menu to shrink a 2.35 image to make room for the second row of the subtitle bellow the image. Then use the output mask to apply a black mask to cover up any noise at the sides of the image.

Randy Freeman
support@lumagen.com
post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
Can Lumagen HDQ do shrinking and masking at the same time when you feed 1080p/24fps or 1080p/60fps into it? Or, such signal pass through without any stretching or shrinking/panning available?
post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by ddnathan View Post

Can Lumagen HDQ do shrinking and masking at the same time when you feed 1080p/24fps or 1080p/60fps into it?

Shrink and masking can be used, seperately or together, with any input resolution.


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Originally Posted by ddnathan View Post

Or, such signal pass through without any stretching or shrinking/panning available?

The HDQ has a pass through setting. Press "Menu, IN, CONFIG, ADJ, SIZE, SCALE, (NORM, PASS), Ok". When set the pass through the scaling will be turned off if the input and output resolutions are exactly matched. The mask and position (panning) can still be used. Stretching and shrinking require scaling, so the scaler will be turn on.

Randy Freeman
support@lumagen.com
post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by usualsuspects View Post

Lumagen scalers will do what you want. The EDGE will do #2, but as mentioned, only with zoom applied - but, you can apply a tiny amount of zoom in EDGE and make it work. Only downside to Lumagen is DVI EDID stuff, might not be ideal for you depending on sources.

The EDID settings on the HDP/HDQ are great actually. You have a bunch of options. If it doesn't work it's usually the source that is the problem. I had a problem with the XA2 being forced to PC levels but Toshiba finally fixed it. Now all my sources work great with the HDQ.
post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thank you Randy and Ronomy, now it is clear to me.
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