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post #1 of 22
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I have a Pioneer VSX-52TX. I also have an Xbox 360 with component cables. IS there a way to hook this up to my receiver? It seems like in the manual they let you assign the inputs to accept them but I dont see it OR understand it?

I also have the old 360 cable with the normal composite hookups...ie r/w/y

I bought the Sony VPL-AW10 projector and want to make sure I get things right.

So if anyone knows how I can get everything hooked up to receiver then ran to the projector please chime in.

I realize i can just hook right up to projector, but wanted everything through receiver if possible OR if its better??
post #2 of 22
If your receiver has component video inputs for an unused input, or if it's inputs are assignable, you can hook it up using component video. You will also want to use an optical audio connection.
post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 
The inputs are assignable, but I dont understand it. I did go into the menu and see where you can do it. BUT...That dosnt make sense to me? Component inputs have 3 video and 2 audio right?

Well just because I assign it how does that make more inputs "pop up" on the back of my receive? If I want to hook a component DVD player to my receiver there are only 3 hookups. Y/R/W...Thats it ...So if you assign "something" where is it and how do you go about know this?

Just dont understand it really??
post #4 of 22
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Component inputs have 3 video and 2 audio right?

no, "component" only refers to the VIDEO part. you can use your choice of analog (2 red/white cables) or digital for audio.

component video = the red/blue/green video cable.



"composite" = three cables (red/white/yellow) for 2 audio + 1 video:

post #5 of 22
Thread Starter 
Well thats what I meant..So I still dont get what im supposed to do with assigning these inputs. Like I said, I went in the menu and changed it but I still dont get how you can make an input for one video turn into 3 inputs? Eh, maybe someone will chime in soon with some ideas.
post #6 of 22
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Originally Posted by mikieson View Post

Well thats what I meant..So I still dont get what im supposed to do with assigning these inputs. Like I said, I went in the menu and changed it but I still dont get how you can make an input for one video turn into 3 inputs? Eh, maybe someone will chime in soon with some ideas.

You should have multiple inputs and a single output to your projector. Plug your 360 into one of the inputs and hit the button corresponding to that button.
post #7 of 22
oh wow, I see we are going way over your head and you just don't get the fundamental conept

think of it this way -- the "names" represent the different sources available on your receiver. For example, on your receiver you have "DVD", "TV/SAT", "VCR1", etc. The "names" are the OUTPUT of the receiver. All of these "names" have a dedicated composite (red/white/yellow) hook-up that is labeled with the name. The plugs on the back are the INPUT.

however, you only have TWO component (red/blue/green) video inputs, because when your receiver came out most people did not have more than one or two hi-def capable devices. So, since you have only TWO component inputs but many more "names" available, receivers allow you to ASSIGN the inputs to whatever "name" you choose, so the manufacturer doesn't have to predict what you will want or force you to use specific "names" to go along with those two inputs.

So the component video inputs are just numbered on the back ("1" and "2"), and you choose what "name" they become connected to. For example, if you want to hook up your Xbox 360 as "VCR1" and your DVD player as "DVD", you would assign one of the component inputs to the "VCR1" input name, and the other component to the "DVD" input name.

Once you do this, the input has now been "mapped" to the name, and now when you select the "VCR1" source on the receiver, it will "look" for the video from the component input.

The same thing happens with your digital audio inputs. You can "map" them to whatever "name" you want the audio to output on.
post #8 of 22
Thread Starter 
Well you arent going way over my head. Its just im new to using multiple outlets on my receiver. Right now I only have audio going into my receiver from my tv. That way when I want to listen to my 360/tv I hit TV on the receiver.

That is easy. BUT assigning outputs is not really easy or something people do every day. Honestly component was out back in 04 when my receiver came out so you figure they would have just put the outputs/inputs that were needed instead of trying to figure out how to assign them. Kind of dumb if you ask me.

I will mess with them for a while and if I cant get it...I will just bypass my receiver like I have for years. Thanks for trying to help me.
post #9 of 22
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you figure they would have just put the outputs/inputs that were needed instead of trying to figure out how to assign them. Kind of dumb if you ask me.

you may think it's dumb but it's literally the way EVERY SINGLE modern receiver works, for HDMI, component video, and digital audio!! It's actually pretty easy and pretty much every person who has bought an AVR in the past few years has to do it.

The problem is that you typically have 7 or more source "names" but it's cost ( and space) prohibitive for receivers to have seven component inputs, seven optical inputs, seven HDMI inputs, etc. So you get a few of each, and then you assign as needed, it's really not that hard.

There isn't any real need to run the video through the receiver FYI so if you are happy with your current setup (bypassing the receiver for video).
post #10 of 22
Thread Starter 
OK forgive my ignorance please. I couldnt see behind my receiver. BUT I looked and it does have component in...2 sets of them.

BUT now im wondering where do I hook the 2 audio cables in at? And if I want to view my video do I have to have component going out to my tv as well OR my projector for that matter?

DO I have to use digital audio or something for the audio to work? Really manuals should be written in a way for dummies to understand. "take this, put here....take that, go there, Push this, get that, select this and you got it"...EAsy to understand . The manual just dont go into detail enough.
post #11 of 22
I am not sure what your points of confusion are.

First off, you don't always need to assign anything. Receivers have a set of default inputs.

Obviously, there is no XBox input. However, you can use other inputs. You might, for example your DVD input for your XBox if you don't have a DVD player hooked up.

Hook the component video outputs from the 360 into the DVD component inputs. Hook the optical audio from the 360 to the DVD optical audio input on the receiver. Now when you select DVD, you should see and hear the XBox.

You might also have other AV inputs which support the 360. I don't have your manual, so I can't tell you. But looking on the back of the receiver or maybe in the manual, you should see labeled inputs.

Where assignment comes in, is when the defaults don't work. They would let you assign a specific input such as VCR to specific physical connections on back of the receiver. I would think some more reading and experimentation might help you out.

It might help to pull the receiver out, so you can clearly see the connections on back of the receiver.
post #12 of 22
Thread Starter 
Can I use normal RCA cables as component? Like run 3 of them for the video. Normal RCA cables are pretty cheap and I can get like 24' of them here in my home town and thats what I need. OR are component a different type of cable all together?
post #13 of 22
Yes, you can use any RCA terminated cable. There was a discussion that some RCA term'd cables are not the proper (75 ohm) impedance. I am not going to rehash that discussion. I would guess most RCA terminated cables would work for you. Does not hurt to try.
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by mikieson View Post

I have a Pioneer VSX-52TX. I also have an Xbox 360 with component cables. IS there a way to hook this up to my receiver? It seems like in the manual they let you assign the inputs to accept them but I dont see it OR understand it?

I also have the old 360 cable with the normal composite hookups...ie r/w/y

I bought the Sony VPL-AW10 projector and want to make sure I get things right.

So if anyone knows how I can get everything hooked up to receiver then ran to the projector please chime in.

I realize i can just hook right up to projector, but wanted everything through receiver if possible OR if its better??

You can connect to digital audio rather than standard left and right (w/r) audio. If you look at the Xbox AV Cable where its connected to back of the Xbox unit, you will see a switch for TV and HDTV. Just behind that switch where the cables lead out you will see a small black port. This where to connect a optical toslink (digital audio) cable (http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...t=1#largeimage). Connect one end to the Xbox AV small black port and connect the other end to your receiver DIGITAL optical input (either TV or Tape, located at top left corner if looking from the rear).
Hook the Xbox component video cables (red, blue, green) into the your receiver COMPONENT VIDEO inputs (red, blue, green).
So the r/w/y are not used since the optical cable takes its place. I hope this helps.
BTW, don't forget to assign
post #15 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

You can connect to digital audio rather than standard left and right (w/r) audio. If you look at the Xbox AV Cable where its connected to back of the Xbox unit, you will see a switch for TV and HDTV. Just behind that switch where the cables lead out you will see a small black port. This where to connect a optical toslink (digital audio) cable (http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...t=1#largeimage). Connect one end to the Xbox AV small black port and connect the other end to your receiver DIGITAL optical input (either TV or Tape, located at top left corner if looking from the rear).
Hook the Xbox component video cables (red, blue, green) into the your receiver COMPONENT VIDEO inputs (red, blue, green).
So the r/w/y are not used since the optical cable takes its place. I hope this helps.
BTW, don't forget to assign

OK...BUT what if I want to hook up the normal l/r rca audio from the 360? IF the component is hooked up where it goes where do I route the audio to? Like lets say I want to hit video1 for the 360. The video is routed one place and the audio is hooked up at video1? Kind of conffusing to me.
post #16 of 22
In my opinion, it's best to route your XBox audio to your receiver via optical so you get Dolby Digital.

When you say video 1, are you talking your TV or your receiver?

If you are talking about video 1 on your TV, you can switch your video from your TV and your audio from your receiver. In other words, you would run component video to an input on your TV, and choose an audio input on your receiver for the audio.

If video 1 is a receiver input, it depends a bit on whether it accepts digital audio as well as component video. If it did not accept digital audio, you would be stuck with analog.

As I said before, in an ideal world, you would choose a receiver input that allows for both component video and digital audio, and use that for the 360. In this way, the receiver will switch both audio and video for you.

The downside of switching both audio and video receiver side is that you can't hear audio from the TV.

The downside of feeding the XBox into the TV, then back out to the receiver, is you will likely not get Dolby Digital.

Of course Dolby Digital is not really helpful unless you are going to run more than two speakers.
post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by MichaelJHuman View Post

In my opinion, it's best to route your XBox audio to your receiver via optical so you get Dolby Digital.

When you say video 1, are you talking your TV or your receiver?

If you are talking about video 1 on your TV, you can switch your video from your TV and your audio from your receiver. In other words, you would run component video to an input on your TV, and choose an audio input on your receiver for the audio.

If video 1 is a receiver input, it depends a bit on whether it accepts digital audio as well as component video. If it did not accept digital audio, you would be stuck with analog.

As I said before, in an ideal world, you would choose a receiver input that allows for both component video and digital audio, and use that for the 360. In this way, the receiver will switch both audio and video for you.

The downside of switching both audio and video receiver side is that you can't hear audio from the TV.

The downside of feeding the XBox into the TV, then back out to the receiver, is you will likely not get Dolby Digital.

Of course Dolby Digital is not really helpful unless you are going to run more than two speakers.

Just take a look at the manual sheet "PDF" for my receiver..http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...VSX-52TX?tab=D
post #18 of 22
honestly dude, I don't think I could have explained it more clearly than I already did. I even looked at the back of your receiver for you and explained the specific inputs you would use. read this a few more times until it makes sense:

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

think of it this way -- the "names" represent the different sources available on your receiver. For example, on your receiver you have "DVD", "TV/SAT", "VCR1", etc. The "names" are the OUTPUT of the receiver. All of these "names" have a dedicated composite (red/white/yellow) hook-up that is labeled with the name. The plugs on the back are the INPUT.

however, you only have TWO component (red/blue/green) video inputs, because when your receiver came out most people did not have more than one or two hi-def capable devices. So, since you have only TWO component inputs but many more "names" available, receivers allow you to ASSIGN the inputs to whatever "name" you choose, so the manufacturer doesn't have to predict what you will want or force you to use specific "names" to go along with those two inputs.

So the component video inputs are just numbered on the back ("1" and "2"), and you choose what "name" they become connected to. For example, if you want to hook up your Xbox 360 as "VCR1" and your DVD player as "DVD", you would assign one of the component inputs to the "VCR1" input name, and the other component to the "DVD" input name.

Once you do this, the input has now been "mapped" to the name, and now when you select the "VCR1" source on the receiver, it will "look" for the video from the component input.

The same thing happens with your digital audio inputs. You can "map" them to whatever "name" you want the audio to output on.

you need to understand that the "name" that you select on the receiver is the OUTPUT, but what inputs funnel to that "name" can be assigned by you. Every "name" gets a set of composite (red/yellow/white) connectors, but for the "higher level" connections like component video and optical audio, you need to set up how the inputs are mapped to the OUTPUTS.
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

honestly dude, I don't think I could have explained it more clearly than I already did. I even looked at the back of your receiver for you and explained the specific inputs you would use. read this a few more times until it makes sense:



you need to understand that the "name" that you select on the receiver is the OUTPUT, but what inputs funnel to that "name" can be assigned by you. Every "name" gets a set of composite (red/yellow/white) connectors, but for the "higher level" connections like component video and optical audio, you need to set up how the inputs are mapped to the OUTPUTS.

Ok...I think I got you on that. And it makes sense to me. BUT what doesnt make sense to me is....I have the component cables hooked up. Thats all fine and dandy. BUT I still dont understand where to plug up the audio "rca" cables? Do I hook them into the composite audio of the same name I give the component?
post #20 of 22
yes, once you have assigned the component inputs to a specific name, now they are "attached" to that name so they will be combined with anything else associated with the name. So if you assigned the component-1 input to "VCR1", then you would want to use either the red/white audio inputs labeled "VCR1" or use a digital cable and assign that digital input to "VCR1" as well.
post #21 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

yes, once you have assigned the component inputs to a specific name, now they are "attached" to that name so they will be combined with anything else associated with the name. So if you assigned the component-1 input to "VCR1", then you would want to use either the red/white audio inputs labeled "VCR1" or use a digital cable and assign that digital input to "VCR1" as well.

OK Thanks...That is really what was conffusing me the most...
post #22 of 22
don't worry, it's just a new way of doing things. once it "clicks" for you it will become easy
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