2009 Mitsubishi DLP? - Page 3

The viewing area is 71.5" wide. I would count on adding 2"-4" on the width (the current 65" version adds less than 2" to the width of the screen).

I have already answered the question : It's 73.2" for the 82737 model. This is from the OFFICIAL Mitsubishi website. No need to guess !

I got home last night with a cardboard cutout of the 82" to gauge what this thing is going to look like in my living room and of course the wife walks in.

once i explained (mind you she was expressionless throughout my sales pitch) she gave me "the here we go again" look and proceeded to go cut up my mitsubishi 3 diamond card (for the 3rd time now).

I can't wait until these things start showing up online and one arrives at the door 16 years married and things have never changed i love it

Hopefully Mitsu make a table for the 82incher. Going to need a table no higher than a foot tall, otherwise eye level will be substantially below the screen.

I wonder if the release of the 2009 dlp was a last minute option. They have done a great job of keeping it a secret. Nothing at the CES. Dealers left completely in the dark. Most dealers in my area were completely out of stock of the 73 inch diamond and had no reorders for new models from Mitsu. It would be interesting if the dealers will put the dlp back on display...I would think the 82 incher would be a couriostiy draw.

check the owners manual. it explains how to use a universal remote or whatever it is you are trying to do.

Far back as I recall there have never been complaints on this issue. Also last year they added game mode which improved it even more.

Many HDTVs now have sepaate on and off IR codes in addition to the Power code but it appears that only the companies that some of the companies that make universal remotes such as Harmony know what they are.

I'm hoping the same thing. The current Mitsubishi spec sheet shows N/A for the matching base for the 82" model. I hope that's only temporary.

As far as height goes, I'd be OK with base that's the same height as the one for the 65" set. However, there's no way that I could put this set onto a standard piece of furniture. Not only would the viewing angle be too high, but I would be putting this TV into a finished basement with a low ceiling. I don't know if I could physically fit the 82" model into the room on top of a standard piece of furniture. I think that it would hit the ceiling.

The WD-73927 (and probably many other models) has a "direct select mode" on the remote control. Here is what I can do with my RC:

-Slide the switch to TV mode and hold the POWER button.
-Press 090. This puts the remote on "direct device select mode".
-You can now press the DEVICE BUTTON followede by another button to go directly to an input.

Here are the known direct view codes:

DEVICE and then:

1 ... INPUT 1 (S-VIDEO/COMPOSITE)
2 .... INPUT 2
3 ... INPUT 3
4 ... HDMI 2
5 ... COMPONENT 1
6 ... COMPONENT 2
SQV..HDMI 1
PIP CH UP.. ANT1
PIP CH DOWN .. ANT2

POWER ... POWER ON
STOP ... POWER OFF

PAUSE .. AV RESET


Holding POWER and entering 000 will put the remote back to normal.


I used those codes to program my Harmony but most likely you now have them already stored in their data base. I guess something similar will always be possible with the new models.

The reason I ask about the discrete remote codes is because my dad and I both have DirecTV and use the DirecTV remote. The remote has an "all on" as well as an "all off" button. On my Samsung, these buttons actually do as they are labelled once the remote is programmed. On my dad's Mitsubishi, pressing either button will merely change the power state of the TV from its current state. I'd like to know if I get one of these TVs, will the DirecTV remote work correctly with discrete on/off codes.

Are you serious? I've owned a Samsung HLR series DLP for the past three years, and the lag is horrendous, even in game mode! The last time I checked the gaming lag forums on this site, the consensus seemed to be that DLP had the worst gaming lag of any type of TV... So there definitely have been complaints on this issue.

Other than that, I've been a big DLP supporter as I don't need a flat TV to hang on the wall. (Obviously, since I own one.) I've never had a complaint about "rainbows" or "wobulation" that everyone else seems to freak out about. I'm just wondering if there have been game lag improvements to DLP in the past 3 years. To be honest, I kept hearing about how DLP was going to be a dead technology, so I stopped following it... thinking by the time I could afford a new TV, I wouldn't even have DLP as an option. This Mits set has caught my eye though!

I have no lag problems with my LED DLP set.

99.98765% chance it will. I also have directv and 5 different brands of TVs and they all work with the Directv remote, including the 73927. I specifically tested it with the Mitsubishi and the discrete codes work perfectly. I used the Directv remote code 11550 for the Mitsubishi.

You can get a Panasonic 103" plasma these days for 60k, but $4,199. full MSRP for an 82" RPTV is a great deal. I bet they get discounted down very quickly.

Mitsubishi WD-82737 - $4,199.00

Mitsubiushi WD-82837 - $4,999.00

Panasonic TH-103PF10UK - 60k to 68k Dell Small Business sells them.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...722&lid=628335

It looks like the main difference between the 08 835 vs 09 837 is the 82inch model. The 82 incher should jump start dlp interest. Bigger is always better up to a point. Probably should be no closer than 15foot away to view a noise free image ( I am 12 foot away from the 73incher which is borderline). Also I noticed that larger screen above 65 starts to loose detail/sharpness due to the image getting blown up to mamoth proportions. Need 1440p or 2160p to alleviate this.

The screens are 2 inch deeper to correct the geometry problems the 08 had when the auto keystone was disabled . also the software were tweaked (deep field imager, sharp edge, plush 1080 upscaler). Nice Mitsu noticed and addressed the shortcomings of the 835 series.

They also included advanced video adjustment. Looks like a short cut to the service menu with more user friendly layout. You can save video adjustments per input and per daytime/nitetime mode. I believe you could do the same with the 835 series by saving the video settings to natural for nitetime and brite for daytime.

The Diamond nameplate is probably going to the laser vue as the mitsu photos do not show the diamond logo.

Hopefully, if Mitsu are nice, they could offer a software upgrade to the 835 users that would mimic the changes for 09. I do not think it is a hardware issue.

AFAIK the principle cause of DLP lag is up scaling from the input resolution to the unit's native resolution and game mode reduces the quality of the scaling to reduce the time.
What resolution are you outputting over what interface to your HLR and is it the native resolution of the HLR.

well since this was a mits thread, I was refering to mits TVs. I dont follow the thread you refered to, however I do follow the mits threads and saw nothing but positive comments in reference to game lag from past and current models.

i do know that some people confused server lag on xbox live with TV game lag.

i'll take that bet. look at the interest just from this little thread.

i have seen people pay $3k often and even $5k on occasion just for a 52" panel.

Still everything always gets cheaper.

I gotta think the makers are milking it on the LCD's, though. They've stayed static for quite awhile at sizes and performance far inferior to the RPTV of the 2005-2006 era.

These aren't Diamonds. Wouldnt surprise me if they're $3500 by 2010 and $3000 by 2011

I don't notice any discernible lag in my 73736. I don't even bother with game mode. My AVR, on the other hand, introduces horrendous lag in both the audio and video. At least it keeps them relatively in synch.

The HLR is a 1080p set. I have the component video cables for the Wii, and I have it set to 480p, but I am completely unable to play Super Mario World or Punch Out! on the set, even in Game Mode.

I sent an email to MEDA Friday asking when and where for the 82" (where i live there are no stores to visit). below is their response. seems August for it

Thank you for contacting Mitsubishi Digital Electronics America, Inc. We are pleased to be able to assist our customers via our website. Here is the information that you have requested:


That model will not be out in the market till approximately August of this year and will be carried by diamond dealers only.
We suggest you contact the diamond dealers in your area and find out if and when they intend to order for that model


Regards


MDEA

Then that is the cause of your delay. You have to be outputting 1080i/60 in order to eliminate the delays due to scaling even in game mode. If the Wii is not capable of outputting a higher resolution over the interface you are using then there is probably nothing you can do to eliminate the delay.

Since you got a formal answer, your intel is probably better than mine but I spoke to the Mitsubishi regional sales manager ( I met the guy when my 73927 had to be replaced twice) and he told me May/June for the 82" models.

i much prefer your response.

With all the brick and mortar closures, just finding a place to see these displays is getting tougher. I expect I'll have to take a 70 mile trip to SF to see them.

That's true. If you don't live in places like LA and NYC chances are you won't see the high-end gear . My next TV will probably be purchased online .

The Wii doesn't put out any higher than 480p. I know the scaling is the cause of the delay.... But the consensus on the gaming boards has been that DLPs have taken a lot longer to scale than other TV display technologies for some reason. So my question is has there been any improvement in that over the past 3 years since I bought my Samsung DLP?

Owner's of the newest Samsung DLP's (LED version anyway...not sure about the bulb-based ones, but I assume it's the same) experience no lag.

just a guess, but probably the offical release would be in june, but the customer service people mentioned August as a safe guess to when the product is fully propegated to retail outlets.

that guess, of course, is based on 2 posts I just read in this thread

i cannot comment on samsung...you should probably visit the samsung threads (there are many threads with many knowledgeable persons who can answer your question).

for mitsubishi (since this is a mitsubishi thread) people have already answered your question several times.

If you dont trust these people, take your game console to a local mits dealer and test it out. It is probably the only way you will be truely satisfied.

If I simply told you that DLP is inherently a much faster technology than LCD or plasma you may not believe me (it's the mirrors). The processing speed of video/audio signal has little to do with the output display type and more to do with the analog to digital conversion and video processor that the product uses.
All types of displays (at least commercially available ones) must convert the video signal to some type of transport mediam such as TMDS or LVDS. That then interfaces with the display output, and in the case of flat panels have a response in the range of milliseconds where DLP is in the range of microseconds.
Simply suggesting that DLP is an inferior display type in the catagory of game lag has no merit. It all has to do with the processing of the audio and video which is done completely seperate of the display output type.