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Will popcornhour ever play blu-ray/hd dvd

post #1 of 14
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from files like my htpc does?
No re-encoding just a simple one click rip to disk by anydvd hd.
Isn't this something people want? Why isn't it implemented yet?
I'm sure this works for dvds in popcornhour.
My question is will we ever see this kind of functionality? I'd be more than happy to pay twice or more of what the a-110 costs just to get rid of my htpc.
post #2 of 14
No.

But the dune player will play Blu-Rays rips.

http://duneplayer.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=2

HD-DVD rips will never happen for obvious reasons.
post #3 of 14
No? I find that hard to believe. It can't play a .m2ts file with h.264 vid and AC3 audio streams?

I recently looked at the supported elementary streams and containers supported by A110 and I remember them on there.

I use AnyDVD and tsRemux to suck the video and audio off my Bluray disks and I stream most just fine to my PS3. The PS3 does not decode VC1 video, so those disks are problems, but I am sure that PCH does.

Note that my backup is a single .m2ts file, not Bluray ISO, so there are no menus or extras. Just the movie. No re-encoding at all. Takes an hour.
post #4 of 14
PH will play a .m2ts file ripped from a blu-ray just fine, can even have HD audio (DTS-MA or True-HD) and it will pass it to a receiver over HDMI.
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by zAndy12 View Post

PH will play a .m2ts file ripped from a blu-ray just fine, can even have HD audio (DTS-MA or True-HD) and it will pass it to a receiver over HDMI.

Is this thread on Candid Camera?? The PCH does exactly what the OP asks for.

CD
post #6 of 14
If you take libaacs, and libbluray, and a USB drive, and a few hours of work, you can make it play the streams at the very least.

To do menus etc, that would be even harder
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by Jeff Flowerday View Post

No.

But the dune player will play Blu-Rays rips.

http://duneplayer.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=2

HD-DVD rips will never happen for obvious reasons.

I've never seen this beast before. Looking at the specs:

Blu-Ray video playback support

[the space here is empty is this a mistake? this is the part I'm interested in]

DVD-Video playback support:

DVD menu navigation is supported.

Sources:

Commercial DVD-Video disks:

Internal DVD drive.

USB DVD drives.

ISO images, VIDEO_TS folders:

Internal DVD drive.

USB mass storage devices (USB HDD, USB flash memory).

USB DVD drives.

NFS network folders.

SMB network folders.

As far as dvds go this is a dream as is PCH I believe (no experience though) but what about blu-rays? Please check the link you posted and let me know.

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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

Is this thread on Candid Camera?? The PCH does exactly what the OP asks for.

CD

No, no it doesn't I want to play rips from files, the files are a straight copy from the blu-ray disk. No iso and no mkv containers etc. just pure files. My htpc sees the folder and plays it as if I have the disk inside, menus everything works the same as a standalone. I'm not interested in playing m2ts files etc. I know this is possible for PCH. If anyone can explain better please do. The analogy to what I want is playing VIDEO_TS folder but for blu-ray/hd dvd.
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

Is this thread on Candid Camera?? The PCH does exactly what the OP asks for.

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Originally Posted by 720p View Post

No, no it doesn't I want to play rips from files, the files are a straight copy from the blu-ray disk. No iso and no mkv containers etc. just pure files. My htpc sees the folder and plays it as if I have the disk inside, menus everything works the same as a standalone. I'm not interested in playing m2ts files etc. I know this is possible for PCH. If anyone can explain better please do. The analogy to what I want is playing VIDEO_TS folder but for blu-ray/hd dvd.

OK, well learn to speak English first. Here's your OP, word for word...

Will popcornhour ever play blu-ray/hd dvd...from files like my htpc does?

From files like your HTPC does? Well obviously that's a vague question, but your HTPC is playing .m2ts files...and the PCH does as well.

No re-encoding just a simple one click rip to disk by anydvd hd.

PCH does this too. At its simplest, you stick a BD in a drive, AnyDVD HD does its decryption, you right-click and rip the whole BD to file. PCH will play mpeg-2, mpeg-4, and vc-1 encoded video files and pass all audio codecs. Now, if some people choose to re-encode that's their prerogative, but you don't have to because of the PCH. The only argument you may have there would be titles that have seamless branching, but they are few and far between and not enough to hang the PCH over.

So then, when I and others answer your OP that PCH will do these things...then you come back with .ISO, MKV, menu support, etc. Oh, and you happen to mention what a beast the Dune player is? It seems maybe the cameras are on after all; but instead of Candid Camera we appear to be in the middle of a commercial.

CD
post #9 of 14
I really don't know what's up with all of you disagreeing with me.

The simple answer is no, just like I said. The popcorn hour will never play a blu-ray rip, full menu support and BDLive just like his HTPC.

And no it won't even play all blu-ray m2ts files when just ripped simply because it has no way of handling the seamless branching on certain blu-rays without remuxing.

As I recommended the new mythical dune player is suppose to have support for blu-ray rips as a folder structure or an iso.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by Jeff Flowerday View Post

As I recommended the new mythical dune player is suppose to have support for ...

Huh? You had me up to here--why on Earth would you recommend a "mythical" player that's "suppose to" do something? You should know from hanging-around here that "the perfect streaming player" has been "coming soon" for years now!

The PCH plays movies from either a disc mounted on a PC or the files that have been ripped there. Yes, it doesn't do well with "seamless branching" (because that means multiple files) nor does it handle every permutation of audio.

Maybe the Dune is the perfect player and does everything, but you don't have one so don't know that first-hand, do you?
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by Jeff Flowerday View Post

I really don't know what's up with all of you disagreeing with me.

The simple answer is no, just like I said. The popcorn hour will never play a blu-ray rip, full menu support and BDLive just like his HTPC.

And no it won't even play all blu-ray m2ts files when just ripped simply because it has no way of handling the seamless branching on certain blu-rays without remuxing.

As I recommended the new mythical dune player is suppose to have support for blu-ray rips as a folder structure or an iso.

Jeff, I'll speak for myself, and say mostly I was disagreeing with how the OP worded his post. As I've already dissected, the OP asks will PCH play files...not folders...not .ISO...no mention of full menu support, etc...without re-encoding. And the answer is of course that is exactly what it does.

As for your response, I do have a little bit of a problem when users oversimplify their answers. If my question is "will the PCH play simple rips, straight from AnyDVD HD, without all that re-encoding bs"...do you really think your answer should be a straight and simple NO, because seamless branching is the exception? I mean what are we talking, 50 titles out of 5,000?

To me, and this is just my opinion, whenever someone sort of oversimplifies, or overstates like that, they're trying to erroneously sway perception of said product. But I'm not looking to start an argument.

CD
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
"Will popcornhour ever play blu-ray/hd dvd
from files like my htpc does?
No re-encoding just a simple one click rip to disk by anydvd hd."

Ok, sorry for my bad english. When I said from files I meant the kind of files you find on a blu-ray disk ripped straight to harddisk by anydvd hd. I should have said folders instead. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I want the whole menu and everything that comes with the disk as you would play it normally in a PS3.

At least Jeff Flowerday understood what I meant and further reading in the forums on the dune (unknown to me until now) it looks that this does everything I want bar hd dvd. I believe for the hd dvds I have I could somehow transcode them to blu-ray format. I am not sure you get to keep your menus, etc.

I'll switch to the dune thread and ask a few questions, if the replies are positive I'm definately getting one. I already had PCH in my basket, glad I asked for help here first.
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by 720p View Post

"Will popcornhour ever play blu-ray/hd dvd
from files like my htpc does?
No re-encoding just a simple one click rip to disk by anydvd hd."

Ok, sorry for my bad english. When I said from files I meant the kind of files you find on a blu-ray disk ripped straight to harddisk by anydvd hd. I should have said folders instead. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I want the whole menu and everything that comes with the disk as you would play it normally in a PS3.

720p, I always try to be sensitive to the fact that not everyone in the forum speaks English as their first language. But please understand that when your broken English completely changes the nature of your question, from a yes answer to a no answer, you can't blame someone for reacting the way that I did...which was simply to correct what seemed to be your misunderstanding about the PCH.

Good luck with the Dune; like you've pointed out, there's NO information listed in its Blu-Ray video playback support section. What makes you think members who are interested in an as-yet-unreleased player are going to be able to tell you definitively what it will and won't be able to do?

CD
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

What makes you think members who are interested in an as-yet-unreleased player are going to be able to tell you definitively what it will and won't be able to do?

I was hoping someone already got one. (before official release)
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