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post #1 of 161
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Are there enough owners and or interest for an Official HC1600 thread? I just got this projector and am really enjoying it!
post #2 of 161
I would just change the title of this thread and make it the "official" HC1600 thread...I don't think there are any specific requirements for an official owners thread.
post #3 of 161
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Ok!
post #4 of 161
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My story is this: we finished our basement 4 years ago and I went with a Mitsubishi XD450U. I remember trying to decide between the Mitsubishi and the Panasonic AE700U. The XD450U has served well and I still have it but I noticed an open-box HC1600 at BB and couldn't resist the temptation of seeing if there would be a big improvement over the 450U in picture quality. I wasn't concerned about RBE because I never experienced it with the 450U. I was really surprised how much sharper, brighter and more colorful the picture was over my old projector. I recently upgraded my receiver to the RX-V3900 so I didn't have alot of money for a projector upgrade but I am going to have to find a way to keep this thing. I was kind of surprised that it had 358 hrs on the bulb; someone must have gone out of town for the weekend and left it on or something....I don't guess this would hurt anything or should I opt for a new one? I saved $50 with the open box deal.
post #5 of 161
i'm in.

i bought one when i did my living room psuedo-HT. i was looking for a HC1500, but the clearance was over on them and couldnt find one. i went with the 1600 instead. i was a little wary of the color wheel, but once i powered it up, I was blown away.

i still cant get over how awesome this bad boy is.
post #6 of 161
I too have been very happy w/ the 1600 - upgraded from an Infocus 4805. The screen was key - I sold a focupix 100" for a HCMW Da-Lite 92" screen. Also, I followed some of the calibration recommendations I found on projectorreviews.com

http://www.projectorreviews.com/mits...hp#calibration

I currently use the component connection. I have a PS3 for Blu-Ray & streaming media, a Dish 722 & a standard dvd player.

Anyone have thoughts about adding an iscan DVDO VP30? I'm looking at this since I have a Pioneer Elite 610 1080i CRT in my system as well. I'm thinking that I can set up the DVDO to send 1080i component to my Pioneer & 720P HDMI to the Mits. I assume a 720P from the DVDO would be better than having the Mits do the scaling.
post #7 of 161
I had decided on a Panasonic AE3000. I still was satisfied with the picture from my InFocus X1 but I could no longer stand the grinding, buzzing sound from the color wheel.

The Panasonic seems to be the popular standard. Every reviewer compares against the AE3000 - and the AE3000 usually wins. Also the Panasonic has "features" - little electronic gizmos that are of interest to hobbyists like me.

One reason I wanted an LCD machine was for rear shelf mounting. I had bought a Da-Lite Hi-Power screen (2.8 gain) to compensate for my X1's dimness. The Hi-Power is retro-reflective so it needs to have the projector near the line of sight of the viewer. I had tilted the X1 and tilted the screen so as to create a rectilinear image without using electronic keystone correction. This worked fine.

But I didn't get the Panasonic, I got the Mitsubishi. The main reason was that at around two and a half thousand dollars, I had to think about buying the Panasonic, but at less than seven hundred dollars the Mitsubishi was an impulse purchase.

The secondary reason was that the Roku/NetFlix HD service that I have begun to watch so much lately is 720p. A native 720 projector like the Mitsubishi should be at least equal to 1080 projector like the Panasonic which has to scale the image. I don't know if this is really true but its hard to pay three and a half times as much money for a projector that only has a chance of casting a better image.

I bought from Amazon. I'm a member here, but I forgot. I was ordering some novels from Amazon and their site software somehow knew me well enough that they suggested the Mitsubishi. What the hell! The X1's grinding was driving me nuts. I ordered the HC1600 on a whim.

That was three days ago. The projector got here after two days. The four novels haven't come yet.

Bad news: my shelf is about 12" wide, the HC1600 is about 12" wide. But there is about an eighth of an inch difference. Just enough to require some carpentry (BTW - the Panasonic is much wider and would never have fit). So I mounted the HC1600 on an end table behind my matching recliners. The light is projected at sitting eye level between the two chairs of my modest HT.

Good News: the damn thing is so bright that I can't watch it in Standard mode. I watched Swimming Pool, an artsy slow moving movie with lots of sunny outdoor scenes. I fell asleep while watching (if you know this movie you won't be surprised). Then the scene changed to an outdoor shot in brilliant sunlight and all that light woke me up. It really did look like the outdoors in southern France. I considered wearing sun glasses.

I next watched an episode of Heroes - also HD. The picture had a richness and a clarity that took be by surprise. I had been happy with my X1 - probably because of my high gain screen, but the Mitsu image was was in another league altogether. The Panasonic uses some kind of filter to eliminate screendoor. The Mitsu HC1600 doesn't have any screendoor to eliminate. Most of the time the X1 didn't have visible screendoor but when the titles rolled you could always see the pixel structure. I have a 110" screen (8 feet wide) and I sit 12 feet away - I can see no pixels with the Mitsu.

In Heroes shown in 720p HD, I can see every pimple, every nose hair and every eyelash of the actors in closeup. This much detail tends to distract from the plot. I can't imagine why I would want more. Heroes is after all a TV show optimized for viewing on 24" CRTs in living rooms.

I have some HDMI cables on order. So far I've used component cables. I don't see how the picture can get better, but I've been wrong before.
post #8 of 161
Should I be unplugging this projector when done using it or is just powering it off with the remote ok?I thought I read somewhere that this thing should be plugged into a power supply with a switch.Not sure why though.
post #9 of 161
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Originally Posted by trolly View Post

My story is this: we finished our basement 4 years ago and I went with a Mitsubishi XD450U. I remember trying to decide between the Mitsubishi and the Panasonic AE700U. The XD450U has served well and I still have it but I noticed an open-box HC1600 at BB and couldn't resist the temptation of seeing if there would be a big improvement over the 450U in picture quality. I wasn't concerned about RBE because I never experienced it with the 450U. I was really surprised how much sharper, brighter and more colorful the picture was over my old projector. I recently upgraded my receiver to the RX-V3900 so I didn't have alot of money for a projector upgrade but I am going to have to find a way to keep this thing. I was kind of surprised that it had 358 hrs on the bulb; someone must have gone out of town for the weekend and left it on or something....I don't guess this would hurt anything or should I opt for a new one? I saved $50 with the open box deal.

No way would I try and save $50 and pick up a PJ with 358 hours on it. Do you know how much replacement bulbs cost? Return that PJ asap and pay $50 difference for a new one.
post #10 of 161
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Originally Posted by danimal60 View Post

No way would I try and save $50 and pick up a PJ with 358 hours on it. Do you know how much replacement bulbs cost? Return that PJ asap and pay $50 difference for a new one.


Thanks danimal- I took the open-box back and got a new one; 358 hrs is a pretty big chunk. I know there are people who are sensitive to the RBE but man if you don't see rainbows, this little projector is very strong for the money.
post #11 of 161
Yeah, someone tried to put one over on BB, returning a PJ with that many hours, heck, normal return for PJ is 30 days, thats over ten hours a day of use.
post #12 of 161
Checking in.........
Just bought mine and so far I like it a lot.
I ceiling mounted it right in teh same spot as my IN72.

So far the pq quality for HD cable is not much better than my IN72, in fact I think I like the IN72 better.

However, Blu Ray is freaking amazing compared to my IN72!

I still have some tweaks, but out of the box the 720P HC1600 blows away my IN72 for Blu Ray content.

And so far, no RBE, I watched teh new Hulk, Spiderman3, and a bunch of cable.
post #13 of 161
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Originally Posted by bluto2000gs View Post

Checking in.........
However, Blu Ray is freaking amazing compared to my IN72!
I still have some tweaks, but out of the box the 720P HC1600 blows away my IN72 for Blu Ray content.
And so far, no RBE, I watched teh new Hulk, Spiderman3, and a bunch of cable.

I noticed the same thing...my old 450U did a good job with HD cable but when I watched Iron Man and Tropic Thunder on Blu Ray, I was sold.
post #14 of 161
Well I just pulled the trigger on a new HC1600 from AMZN. The prices are finally down enough on 720P pj's for me to buy one (I don't mind being one step behind in the tech tree). My trusty ole SP4805's color wheel finally fell apart so I thought why not give the HC1600 a try.

I never saw a hint of the dreaded rainbow effect with my 4805 so I hope I don't with the 1600.

Ohh well now I just have to wait until it gets here. I am very anxious to start setting everything up.

Also I ordered the Onkyo TX-SR606.

Can't wait........................
post #15 of 161
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AIRSPAWN- I also have the 606...it's a solid receiver for the money just like the HC1600.
post #16 of 161
Just curious as to what other PJ's you all shopped prior to getting the 1600 and why you chose it over, say, the Panny AX200 or BenQ W500 or DT-510
post #17 of 161
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Originally Posted by 80sailor View Post

Just curious as to what other PJ's you all shopped prior to getting the 1600 and why you chose it over, say, the Panny AX200 or BenQ W500 or DT-510

I saw the Panny & 1600 playing back to back & the 1600 was sharper & had better contrast from what I could tell.This was in an electronics store and the Panny was $1899 & the 1600 was $1299 CDN.I then found out about the Big River deal on this site selling the 1600 for $749US - $100US rebate plus a free bulb.I pulled the trigger and could not be happier.I guess when I get the bulb & $100 rebate I'll be happier.
post #18 of 161
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Originally Posted by trolly View Post

AIRSPAWN- I also have the 606...it's a solid receiver for the money just like the HC1600.

Thanks for letting me know that trolly. I am always looking for the best bang for my buck.

Will I need an optical audio cable or will the HDMI cable handle the audio from my xbox 360 and HC1600.
post #19 of 161
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use hdmi from 360 to 606 then hdmi out from 606 to 1600.
post #20 of 161
Thanks trolly. I'll probably be using this forum more in the near future.
post #21 of 161
I got email about getting my MIR in mail in april and checked with rebate center for gettting a lamp .they said lamp comes from a different location but they did recieve my rebate form.
No matter what people think about HC1600 I upgraded from a 4805 this is a good projector for the money.

just a update i got extra lamp a week back and check is in the mail.folks who mailed in rebate in time should get the Free Lamp and 100 bucks in April.
post #22 of 161
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Originally Posted by imagineasia View Post

No matter what people think about HC1600 I upgraded from a 4805 this is a good projector for the money.

I paid $2300.00 for my XD-450U back in early 2005 and I am amazed at how the HC1600 blows it away for $799.00.
post #23 of 161
Been using my HC1600 for about a month now. I have to say I have been very impressed with this projector. Blows away the 4 year old Samsung 56" DLP that replaced it. No problems with rainbow effect for me or anybody who has watched it.

Definitely needed some adjustment out of the box. Low bulb setting works great on the 92" screen I project it onto. Had to turn down the BrilliantColor to 2 as any higher I couldn't correct for color.

The picture was decent with a flat white screen. However I found the projector to be too bright on the whites, even with brilliantcolor turned off and on the low bulb setting. I highly recommend this projector with an N8 grey screen. Something like the N8 Gray + Poly paint or Black Widow (for the DIY crowd) work exceptionally well with this projector. Really enhances the black levels and kills off some of that extra brightness. Really makes the colors pop.
post #24 of 161
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AIRSPAWN- I also have the 606...it's a solid receiver for the money just like the HC1600.

Hey trolly,

Last night when I was playing Call of Duty WAW my 606 would shut down every time there was a explosion or burst of light in front of me.

I am hooked up via HDMI to my HC1600 and xbox 360. The 606 is not enclosed so I don't think its over heating.

Has this ever happened to you?
post #25 of 161
Never mind, I had the wires on my left front speaker touching each other.

corrected and seems to be fixed.
post #26 of 161
I picked up the HC1600 from Circuit City. RBE was too much of a problem for me.

Decided to sell my PJ with 21hrs on it. Broke even since I got it cheap at CC.

Now looking for a decent budget LCD PJ.
post #27 of 161
Now that I have a few hours logged, I have not tweaked the setting yet but I see a need to do so.

I notice that night scenes are darker/muddled than that of my IN72.
The detail and resolution is still far better than the IN72.

To address a question earlier I chose this mainly due to price and actual availibility. I like to touch and feel a product on shelf. There were none of those competing prducts to be had in my area.

BTW, if you bought your HC1600 at BB recently, they dropped the price to 699. I took my reciept in and they gave me the hundred plus tax back!!
post #28 of 161
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Originally Posted by AIRSPAWN View Post

Hey trolly,

Last night when I was playing Call of Duty WAW my 606 would shut down every time there was a explosion or burst of light in front of me.

I am hooked up via HDMI to my HC1600 and xbox 360. The 606 is not enclosed so I don't think its over heating.

Has this ever happened to you?

I demoed the 606 when I was looking for a new receiver. This happened to me when playing MGS4 on my PS3. Returned it for a yamaha. No problems. I also had the same problem with some tv shows. When the screen would go completely white it would lose signal. Only did it with 720p and higher. 480p worked fine. But then what is the point of high def if you can't use it?
post #29 of 161
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Originally Posted by bluto2000gs View Post

BTW, if you bought your HC1600 at BB recently, they dropped the price to 699. I took my reciept in and they gave me the hundred plus tax back!!

Thanks for the headsup on the price drop bluto- I took my receipt to BB yesterday and walked out $109.00 richer.

Me and the Warden watched "Australia" yesterday and while I personally thought the movie sucked, the picture sharpness, colors and vibrancy were unbelievable. It really rivals the picture on my Sony 50" SXRD.
post #30 of 161
I saw on projectorreviews this projector was HDMI1.3 and 24fps capable. Will it accept a 1080p24 signal and display it at 720p24? Or does that just mean it takes a 1080p24, does 3:2 and displays at 720p60?

Thanks
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