Originally Posted by bthrb4u
gotcha. i had them close to the wall because my room is wide on one side and shallow on the other . i chose to have the speakers against the wider wall so i wouldn't have to worry about reflections on the side walls as much but it seems that the overall image is a bit closer to me than i want so i moved them closer to the wall. I think if i move them closer to when another the phantom center will not be as forward
Well, if you are setup in a shallow room and can't rotate the system, then you are stuck with what you have.
For comparison, my mains are 9' apart and I sit 10' from all three LCRs. And I have about 9' to each side wall. So I'm setup in the middle third of the room width. And the wall behind the seat is at the other end of the dining room, which is at least 20'.
I found with my speakers, that toe-in does two things. Reduces early reflections and puts the phantom center to about where my center speaker is, 10' away. In the past when I had a '70s pre-amp with a 5 band EQ, I could bring forward or step back the phantom image, just by changing the EQ settings. Mostly with women's voices, most noticeable, Linda Ronstadt's voice.