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post #1741 of 3344
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Originally Posted by Gugu_s View Post

Why is the A52 discontinued, is this official ? Is something coming to replace it, or you need to jump for the A51, if you need 5 channels? It would be a huge mistake nowdays when you have a lot of budget amps on the market. (Emotive, Sunfire etc)

I don't think Parasound has made any announcements about the A52/replacement. I would assume anyone buying a Halo amp would rather have twice the power of the A51, so maybe the reason for the demise of the 52.
post #1742 of 3344
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Originally Posted by Gugu_s View Post

Why is the A52 discontinued, is this official ? Is something coming to replace it, or you need to jump for the A51, if you need 5 channels? It would be a huge mistake nowdays when you have a lot of budget amps on the market. (Emotive, Sunfire etc)

I don't think Parasound has made any announcements about the A52/replacement. I would assume anyone buying a Halo amp would rather have twice the power of the A51, so maybe the reason for the demise of the 52.
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^^^^16 posts for one reply????
post #1744 of 3344
^^^Looks like AVS needs a good tweek! 16 identical posts.
post #1745 of 3344
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Originally Posted by 4DHD View Post

I don't think Parasound has made any announcements about the A52/replacement. I would assume anyone buying a Halo amp would rather have twice the power of the A51, so maybe the reason for the demise of the 52.

My guess: slightly tweaked, more price, more expensive smile.gif
post #1746 of 3344
Just pulled the trigger on A21 in black ! Pretty excited . I currently own a A52 and absolutely love it .
post #1747 of 3344
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Originally Posted by bthrb4u View Post

from what i gathered, you lose 4bits of information for every 3db you go down in volume starting from the top. 32 bits of information available with volume all the way up. If you're using a 24bit signal then you can go down 6db and still get your full resolution. Go down another 3db and you turned you drop your signal down 4bits. This is all because the volume is done digitally and not via analog.

I did not know there were volume knobs on the amplifier

Is this true, regarding signal degradation using the Oppo BPD-105 as a preamp? This is the first I've heard of such a thing.
post #1748 of 3344
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Originally Posted by bthrb4u View Post

I noticed they took the p3 off parasound.com . The numbers for specs seemed very weird when it was up. Showed an all around much worse spec than the 2100 which would be alright if it were tube but it's not.
I spent all night going through A LOT of different power amp makers webpages comparing products and for the money, none come close to the parasound halo line and the only ones that do are SOOOOO much more money.
High slew rates and damping factor, good SNR, high input impedance , dynamic range. Everything. Parasound rocks and for anyone asking about the pre-amp,
If you're going with a parasound amp then def go with parasound pre for load matching.

Is Parasound planning to have a replacement for the P3? Their only available Halo line pre-amp is too expensive. This is disappointing. I had wanted to get an Oppo BDP-105 and hook it up directly to a 2 channel amp, but I'm confused about whether or not that will work and how good the preamp section of the Oppo is compared to something like a P3.
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Originally Posted by Gugu_s View Post

I leave my Halo's on when I'm around the house (I'm working here) but I wouldnt leave them on, when I leave the premises.
Imagine if something going wrong, and your room burns down... I always have this anxiety. If I leave for more than a few days, I even unplug everything, just to be sure, and this way I also protected against lightnings.

Why is the A52 discontinued, is this official ? Is something coming to replace it, or you need to jump for the A51, if you need 5 channels? It would be a huge mistake nowdays when you have a lot of budget amps on the market. (Emotive, Sunfire etc)

I was told by Richard that the sales of A52 were disappointing. He was selling 5 A51's for every A52. There is no replacement.
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Originally Posted by xirtam2005 View Post

Is this true, regarding signal degradation using the Oppo BPD-105 as a preamp? This is the first I've heard of such a thing.

No. The BDP-105 does volume control within the DAC using 32 bits so resolution is not lost.

- Rich
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Originally Posted by xirtam2005 View Post

Is Parasound planning to have a replacement for the P3? Their only available Halo line pre-amp is too expensive. This is disappointing. I had wanted to get an Oppo BDP-105 and hook it up directly to a 2 channel amp, but I'm confused about whether or not that will work and how good the preamp section of the Oppo is compared to something like a P3.
There are two Halo pre-amps; the JC 2, P7.
Although the P7 is a multi-channel pre, it makes a great stereo pre-amp, with by-pass and BM.
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A new pre is also coming, google Parasound P5.
post #1753 of 3344
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Originally Posted by runnin' View Post

A new pre is also coming, google Parasound P5.
That's great news I can't wait to check it out .
post #1754 of 3344
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Originally Posted by Dr_Mark View Post

I was told by Richard that the sales of A52 were disappointing. He was selling 5 A51's for every A52. There is no replacement.

Now thats an interesting fact... In my opinion it is/was in a perfect price spot, and is still one of the best amp available. Richard himself told me, when I wanted to replace my A52 for an A51, that given my speakers are around 89-90db and 6Ohm (and fairly small room 9x15), I wouldn't gain anything in soundquality, and amplification is already more than enough... smile.gif

So, for a lot of folks not having the option to spend less while having the same quality, is a sad thing, but if this is what the market wants... frown.gif I know I won't sell mine, until I will have some very demanding speakers, but this wont happan in the next 5-10 years. smile.gif
post #1755 of 3344
^^^Yep unless one has very power hungry speakers, like the Revel Salon2, and/or a very dead room a 220~250w amp is rarely run to the max. My HCA2205A has never been pushed anywhere near its rated output, even in a very large room.
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I just googled "Parasound P5" and came up with this link with pictures of the P5. This link (post #5) also shows pictures of the P5 and it appears from the rear panel picture that the P5 will have HT Bypass smile.gif. As a former owner of the 2100 preamp which I wished I had not sold the P5 looks very interesting.

Edit: I just sent an email to Parasound asking if there was any additional information on the P5. If they respond with any information I will post it here.

Bill
Edited by Bill Mac - 4/24/13 at 5:42am
post #1757 of 3344
Quick update: I sold my A51 and A52 within 48 hours of listing them here. Just shows the Parasound value seems never ending. Oh so no more PMs please. eek.gifsmile.gif
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^Agree, I am selling my Marantz MM8077 "month old" for 3 A23's to power my surrounds. Those Parasounds are just a beast of an amp. mmm... 4 in a stack, so how warm does an A23 get again? eek.gif
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Quick update: I sold my A51 and A52 within 48 hours of listing them here. Just shows the Parasound value seems never ending. Oh so no more PMs please. eek.gifsmile.gif


What are you replacing them with?
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Originally Posted by moonhawk View Post

What are you replacing them with?

Two Black A51s... biggrin.gif
post #1761 of 3344
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

Two Black A51s... biggrin.gif


Sweet.. cool.gif
post #1762 of 3344
I heard back from Richard Schram from Parasound on my inquiry on the P5. As usual the communication with Parasound is excellent as I received a response very quickly. Below are some of the features that the P5 will have.

Great sounding DAC input for optical, coaxial and USB.
HT Bypass
Main outputs will have a switch to select full range or a high pass filter. The setting is continuously adjustable from 40-140Hz.
The stereo sub outputs also have a switch to select full range or low pass filter. The setting is continuously adjustable from 40-140Hz.
Quality Alps motor pot for volume, rather than a volume control IC.
Retail is expected to be $950 and should be available mid-summer. It will come in silver and black.

I'm very interested in the P5 as I'm finding that I wished I hadn't sold my 2100.

Bill
post #1763 of 3344
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I heard back from Richard Schram from Parasound on my inquiry on the P5. As usual the communication with Parasound is excellent as I received a response very quickly. Below are some of the features that the P5 will have.

Great sounding DAC input for optical, coaxial and USB.
HT Bypass
Main outputs will have a switch to select full range or a high pass filter. The setting is continuously adjustable from 40-140Hz.
The stereo sub outputs also have a switch to select full range or low pass filter. The setting is continuously adjustable from 40-140Hz.
Quality Alps motor pot for volume, rather than a volume control IC.
Retail is expected to be $950 and should be available mid-summer. It will come in silver and black.

I'm very interested in the P5 as I'm finding that I wished I hadn't sold my 2100.

Bill
The P5 has two things I wish the P7 had; the adjustable BM. The P7 only has 50, 80, off. And a DAC.
post #1764 of 3344
Wow, the price is nice. Assume 5 analog in's? Why so much cheaper than P7??
post #1765 of 3344
Here are some power measurements for the Halo A51 taken with a "Kill A Watt" meter.

Standby: 2 watts.
Idle: 150 watts.

- Rich
post #1766 of 3344
Second the wow about the price. $950! I had heard earlier in the year that it would be a lot more but if you got it direct from Richard, that good enough for me. Thanks for checking Bill.

The ALPS pot is another nice touch too. The volume control on the 2100 is a complaint of mine about that unit. Its all sounding good so far regarding the P5 though and looks like there is a new pre-amp in my future.
post #1767 of 3344
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Originally Posted by jima4a View Post

Wow, the price is nice. Assume 5 analog in's? Why so much cheaper than P7??

The P5 has six analog inputs (five RCA and one XLR).

Bill
post #1768 of 3344
I have had the A 52 in my system for six weeks now. I believe it is the very last, if not last last one that Audio Advisor sold. I really like this little amp. My room is only 1600 cubic feet, so the A52 is more than enough.
post #1769 of 3344
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

The P5 has six analog inputs (five RCA and one XLR).

Bill

I'm almost shocked at the price, earlier rumors had it at 1400 or so. 950 puts it right in my wheelhouse. I just acquired a NAD integrated(C372) to see what NAD would sound like in a pre(since I couldn't find a NAD preamp and I found a good deal). I had the C165BEE in my sights, but with the P5 coming in at that price, I'd love to try it out. Glad to see it comes with the black finish too. With those features it looks like a real winner.
post #1770 of 3344
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Originally Posted by runnin' View Post

I'm almost shocked at the price, earlier rumors had it at 1400 or so. 950 puts it right in my wheelhouse. I just acquired a NAD integrated(C372) to see what NAD would sound like in a pre(since I couldn't find a NAD preamp and I found a good deal). I had the C165BEE in my sights, but with the P5 coming in at that price, I'd love to try it out. Glad to see it comes with the black finish too. With those features it looks like a real winner.

I thought the price was at $1400 as well from one of those earlier links. To be honest $1400 would be out of my budget but $950 will be much better. I agree in that the feature set of the P5 looks like a real winner smile.gif.

Bill
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