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post #1891 of 3342
My Original A51 lost a channel.

Parsound sent me a advanced replacement .
Fantastic service. This is one sweet amp.
I love this amp.

- Rich
post #1892 of 3342
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

My Original A51 lost a channel.

Parsound sent me a advanced replacement .
Fantastic service. This is one sweet amp.
I love this amp.

- Rich

Parasound has outstanding service from my experience. I never needed any components serviced but any questions I had were always answered very quickly and professionally.

Bill
post #1893 of 3342
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

Parasound has outstanding service from my experience. I never needed any components serviced but any questions I had were always answered very quickly and professionally.

Bill

Their service is right up there with Oppo's. I am torn right now between a new A31 or an ATI 3000 series. I am loyal to Parasound due to my experience with their service and I think the A31 is a great amp based on reviews but I am leaning towards the ATI due to the fully balanced design which I can take full advantage of with my pre/pro's fully balanced design. I would hate to leave the fold only to have issues later on and regret what I done done.wink.gif

Will
post #1894 of 3342
Does anyone know anything about the Parasound AVC-2500 pre/pro? I am in the market for a new/used pre/pro
and am considering the AVC2500 or perhaps an Anthem AVM-20, or.....

How would the AVC2500 compare to the Anthem AVM-20?
post #1895 of 3342
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

Their service is right up there with Oppo's. I am torn right now between a new A31 or an ATI 3000 series. I am loyal to Parasound due to my experience with their service and I think the A31 is a great amp based on reviews but I am leaning towards the ATI due to the fully balanced design which I can take full advantage of with my pre/pro's fully balanced design. I would hate to leave the fold only to have issues later on and regret what I done done.wink.gif

Will

I had an ATI3005 and now have an A51.
The ATI is a great beast of an amp.
At idle, the ATI draws 130 watts and the A51 idles at 150.

I suspect the ATI is also a high class-A bias design.

I could never A/B these two amps but the ATI was a great sounding amp and under-rated in its power.
Similar ATI manufactured amps for Lexicon and OutlawOEM amps output 600 WPC into 4 ohms. This is not an amp that your can easily clip.
I returned the ATI because there was transformer hum that I could not get rid of.
Apparently, this is something about my environment. Other ATI owners, do not have this problem.
I really liked the fuseless protection in the ATI amps. I got a change to trip the power switch when plugged the amp it and it arced.
It tripped the amp and my 20 amp circuit smile.gif No damage.

There are many reviews where the A51, A31, A21 are described its non-fatiguing., clean sound.
I agree with these characterizations. These amps are sweet sounding.
No mater what recoding I listen to, I feel it sounds the best it can.

The A51 has plenty of bass with my Revel Salons, but it is also different. Deep and controlled.
It's crazy, but sometimes I think there is less bass than the ATI and sometimes more.
Many people feel that SS amps operating within their specs, but I think there are subtle differences.

I hope that helps.

- Rich
post #1896 of 3342
^^
Thanks. The only reason I would switch would be for the fully balanced design..........Just gotta know if I can gain any more from my system. Hard to audition these things since I know of few local dealers that have these things in stock and are willing to loan them out for a few weeks. Would also like to hear the JC1s in my system but right now I just cannot justify the cost of three of them compared to the A31 or ATI3000 series.
post #1897 of 3342
If you can audition that is definitely the way to go.

- Rich
post #1898 of 3342
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

My Original A51 lost a channel.

Parsound sent me a advanced replacement .

- Rich
What exactly do you mean?
post #1899 of 3342
It sounds like he phoned Parasound about the bad channel and they promptly sent him another A51 without waiting for his A51 to get shipped back to them. If so, that is some kind of service!
post #1900 of 3342
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Originally Posted by davee70 View Post

What exactly do you mean?

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Originally Posted by runnin' View Post

It sounds like he phoned Parasound about the bad channel and they promptly sent him another A51 without waiting for his A51 to get shipped back to them. If so, that is some kind of service!

Exactly. It is nice to have an A51 again smile.gif

- Rich
post #1901 of 3342
Struggling to make a decision whether to replace my Sunfire TGA-5200 with a Para 5250 v2. The numbers on the book looks great for Parasound, it has all the right features (Dual Transformer, High current, high Damping factor, low THD), but at the end, does it surpass Sunfire in any way? Does it add that extra something that would or could improve the sound of the same Speakers (the speakers being Revel Performa 3 or Studio 2s used mostly for HT)?
There is no way for me to audition unless I buy and run them side-by-side, which is not the most convenient option for me at this time.
What are some of your experience and opinion? Keep or replace?
post #1902 of 3342
Since my Marantz AV8801 is out for repair, I have been using my BDP-105 as a Preamp.
However, the 105 does not have a trigger. So my EE friend found a DC to DC converter to convert USB 5 volts to 12 volts and soldered up a cable for the Parasound A51.

Works fantastic !

Here is the parts I used:

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/VIBLSD1-S5-S12-SIP/102-1432-ND/989887

http://www.cui.com/product/resource/viblsd1-sip-series.pdf

- Rich
post #1903 of 3342
Great work RichB! smile.gif
post #1904 of 3342
Why did you need two 5V to 12V DC converters?
post #1905 of 3342
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Originally Posted by davee70 View Post

Why did you need two 5V to 12V DC converters?
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Originally Posted by davee70 View Post

Why did you need two 5V to 12V DC converters?

The first link is to Digikey. I got the 2.5mm cable with bare end and the converter from them.
I just cut an extra USB cable for that side.

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/VIBLSD1-S5-S12-SIP/102-1432-ND/989887

http://www.cui.com/product/resource/viblsd1-sip-series.pdf

It is pretty simple if you have a multi-meter, soldering gun, and some shrink helps too.

- Rich
post #1906 of 3342
Well, after 3 months, and then some, the P7 is back in my system biggrin.gif
The HK AVR is very good...but the P7 is a huge step up. There is just more to the entire sound, especially bass, even with LPs.
Plus I get to use the Marantz TT again.
First 3 LPs played: 200 gram Linda Ronstadt Simple Dreams, Eagles Greatest Hits, Elvis is Back...the first LP after his discharge and possibly the best LP he ever recorded. Can you say BLUES.

Why do these expressions not display right?
Edited by 4DHD - 5/22/13 at 8:14pm
post #1907 of 3342
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Why do these expressions not display right?

If you mean the emoticons you have to leave a space between the text and the emoticon. Example:D or biggrin.gif.

Bill
post #1908 of 3342
The P7 vs the HK sub levels. After I sent in the P7 for repairs I realized I had never sent the bass signal to both sides of the two subs. So I got out the Y connectors I had never used and then daisy chained both subs connecting both L/R inputs.
And I had set the HK sub level to +3db.
Then yesterday when I got the P7 connected the very first LP played the sub output was too much. Checked the stereo out sub level and it was +3db and then reduced it to 0db. And still more bass output than from the AVR. And the overall sound is just better.

I paid about 60% more for the P7 over the AVR price and the P7 is worth every penny of that.
post #1909 of 3342
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Originally Posted by 4DHD View Post

The P7 vs the HK sub levels. After I sent in the P7 for repairs I realized I had never sent the bass signal to both sides of the two subs. So I got out the Y connectors I had never used and then daisy chained both subs connecting both L/R inputs.
And I had set the HK sub level to +3db.
Then yesterday when I got the P7 connected the very first LP played the sub output was too much. Checked the stereo out sub level and it was +3db and then reduced it to 0db. And still more bass output than from the AVR. And the overall sound is just better.

I paid about 60% more for the P7 over the AVR price and the P7 is worth every penny of that.
Did you ever have any doubts?!!! smile.gif
post #1910 of 3342
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Originally Posted by Torqdog View Post

Did you ever have any doubts?!!! smile.gif
The only time I had doubts is when it was not working.
post #1911 of 3342
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Originally Posted by 4DHD View Post

Well, after !3 months, and then some, the P7 is back in my system biggrin.gif
The HK AVR is very good...but the P7 is a huge step up. There is just more to the entire sound, especially bass, even with LPs.
Plus I get to use the Marantz TT again.
First 3 LPs played: 200 gram Linda Ronstadt Simple Dreams, Eagles Greatest Hits, Elvis is Back...the first LP after his discharge and possibly the best LP he ever recorded. Can you say BLUES.
Well it's no wonder, the P7 has one heck of a good phono pre-amp in it. That was one of the things I noticed when I sent my player back and all I had to listen to was my old turntable, which was still in working order. I was really amazed at how good an LP can sound, particularly those from back in the day when that's all there was.

And CONGRATULATIONS, it's about time you had your Parasound preamp back!
post #1912 of 3342
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Originally Posted by 4DHD View Post

The P7 vs the HK sub levels. After I sent in the P7 for repairs I realized I had never sent the bass signal to both sides of the two subs. So I got out the Y connectors I had never used and then daisy chained both subs connecting both L/R inputs.
And I had set the HK sub level to +3db.
Then yesterday when I got the P7 connected the very first LP played the sub output was too much. Checked the stereo out sub level and it was +3db and then reduced it to 0db. And still more bass output than from the AVR. And the overall sound is just better.
So, you are using the crossover in the P7? Which of the crossover options are you using, 50 Hz, 80 Hz or Full Range?
I experimented with those but because I had a digital crossover in my subs, I found that for my particular speakers (or room) I needed an 18dB/oct slope to get the best integration between speaker and sub. Eventually I chucked the digital crossover entirely and had some custom filters made but that's an entirely different story.
post #1913 of 3342
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Originally Posted by davee70 View Post

Well it's no wonder, the P7 has one heck of a good phono pre-amp in it. That was one of the things I noticed when I sent my player back and all I had to listen to was my old turntable, which was still in working order. I was really amazed at how good an LP can sound, particularly those from back in the day when that's all there was.

And CONGRATULATIONS, it's about time you had your Parasound preamp back!

Well, I knew someone in customs could not place a 20# box in their pocket, which is exactly what happened 3 years ago when a guy ordered an iPhone. But there was over 3 weeks of total screw ups after it reach Ecuador.

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Originally Posted by davee70 View Post

So, you are using the crossover in the P7? Which of the crossover options are you using, 50 Hz, 80 Hz or Full Range?
I experimented with those but because I had a digital crossover in my subs, I found that for my particular speakers (or room) I needed an 18dB/oct slope to get the best integration between speaker and sub. Eventually I chucked the digital crossover entirely and had some custom filters made but that's an entirely different story.

I use the 80 setting. I like the digital XO points, it more accurate than a knob, but I wish it had more than just 50, 80. Being my mains have a roll off @ 70.
post #1914 of 3342
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Originally Posted by davee70 View Post

Well it's no wonder, the P7 has one heck of a good phono pre-amp in it. That was one of the things I noticed when I sent my player back and all I had to listen to was my old turntable, which was still in working order. I was really amazed at how good an LP can sound, particularly those from back in the day when that's all there was.

And CONGRATULATIONS, it's about time you had your Parasound preamp back!

I agree, at least about the MM phono section. I have not had a MC cartridge while owning the P7, but with my Rega table and an Ortofon 2M Bronze cart, the phono section in the P7 bested several outboard boxes I'd had. I find it quite enjoyable.

The Home Theater Bypass and the subwoofer trim level in the P7 allow me to share dual subs between my audio and video systems. Everything else is seperate between the two.
post #1915 of 3342
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Originally Posted by Prosoft7 View Post

Struggling to make a decision whether to replace my Sunfire TGA-5200 with a Para 5250 v2. The numbers on the book looks great for Parasound, it has all the right features (Dual Transformer, High current, high Damping factor, low THD), but at the end, does it surpass Sunfire in any way? Does it add that extra something that would or could improve the sound of the same Speakers (the speakers being Revel Performa 3 or Studio 2s used mostly for HT)?
There is no way for me to audition unless I buy and run them side-by-side, which is not the most convenient option for me at this time.
What are some of your experience and opinion? Keep or replace?

Never got any response, comments or opinion so far. Wondering if there is no one with experience of listening to both ... I saw some posts on comparison between Para and Emo, Emo and ATI, but none clearly tackle the Sunfire/Parasound. A bit surprised!
Anyone please?
post #1916 of 3342
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Originally Posted by 4DHD View Post

Well, I knew someone in customs could not place a 20# box in their pocket, which is exactly what happened 3 years ago when a guy ordered an iPhone. But there was over 3 weeks of total screw ups after it reach Ecuador.
I use the 80 setting. I like the digital XO points, it more accurate than a knob, but I wish it had more than just 50, 80. Being my mains have a roll off @ 70.
Have you tried a higher xo frequency? For my room I had to get a second sub and low-pass my mains at 120 even though they are rated down to 35 at -3dB, while high passing them at 80. I needed more energy in the 90 to 100 Hz region. A bit unconventional but it works. And everything is in the analog domain up to the subs.
post #1917 of 3342
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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey View Post

I agree, at least about the MM phono section. I have not had a MC cartridge while owning the P7, but with my Rega table and an Ortofon 2M Bronze cart, the phono section in the P7 bested several outboard boxes I'd had. I find it quite enjoyable.

The Home Theater Bypass and the subwoofer trim level in the P7 allow me to share dual subs between my audio and video systems. Everything else is seperate between the two.

I have my Denon 1930ci connected to both my P7 and HK AVR. Main L/R out & 5.1 analog to the P7; coax out to the HK.That way if I want to listen to stereo source in surround I can, or the dts track of DVD-A discs.

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Originally Posted by davee70 View Post

Have you tried a higher xo frequency? For my room I had to get a second sub and low-pass my mains at 120 even though they are rated down to 35 at -3dB, while high passing them at 80. I needed more energy in the 90 to 100 Hz region. A bit unconventional but it works. And everything is in the analog domain up to the subs.

My Custom 212s like a XO @ 70, but 80 works. They have mid-bass drivers that that just do it!.
I noticed today my 96/24 downloads output much more bass than all other sources. And that is with the MacBook Pro's volume way down, due to a bad left channel connection...too high and it distorts. Had to back off the P7's bass output to -10db.
post #1918 of 3342
So, any news on when the P5 is getting released?
post #1919 of 3342
I am also waiting for more information on the P5.
I would love some nice pictures of the type that Parasound have on their site.
I would love some more technical details.
Does anyone know what the hold up is?
Seems like its been coming for months but does not seem to arrive!!
Does anyone have some inside information to explain the delay?
Thanks.
Bruce
post #1920 of 3342
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I heard back from Richard Schram from Parasound on my inquiry on the P5. As usual the communication with Parasound is excellent as I received a response very quickly. Below are some of the features that the P5 will have.

Great sounding DAC input for optical, coaxial and USB.
HT Bypass
Main outputs will have a switch to select full range or a high pass filter. The setting is continuously adjustable from 40-140Hz.
The stereo sub outputs also have a switch to select full range or low pass filter. The setting is continuously adjustable from 40-140Hz.
Quality Alps motor pot for volume, rather than a volume control IC.
Retail is expected to be $950 and should be available mid-summer. It will come in silver and black.

I'm very interested in the P5 as I'm finding that I wished I hadn't sold my 2100.

Bill

This is the latest on the P5.
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