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post #1771 of 1896
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Hmmm... that got me curious, so I'm looking at my copy of the trilogy. You're right... the first two do not have lossless, but they do have PCM which is uncompressed and actually better audio quality.



That threw us too for a few minutes. It's the chic from Boston Legal and Nip/Tuck. Then of course, it isn't supposed to be Seline... she comes later in the saga.

BTW how about Dark Knight?

Sorry I forgot about this. Yeah Dark Knight works fine. I actually returned the Insignia blu-ray. I'm now looking for a blu-ray that has everything. Something you can go online with. Are the any blu-rays out there that plays movies through a USB? I'm using the WDTV Live and I don't think it can bitstream HD codecs.
post #1772 of 1896
We have the Sony 370 and 570 which were on sale just before the holidays for a little over $100. They have internet connectivity, though some feel it doesn't do enough in that regard. It does have a USB port and plays movies from memory sticks or hard drives I think, though there again it can be picky about format.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1228217
post #1773 of 1896
Hi all I seem to be having an issue with low bass while playing blu ray movies on any surround setting except 7 channel enhanced. I have run YAPO several times and changed manual adjustments to my liking but no matter what I try the bass seems to go away considerably when in surround sound.
I have tried both config settings 1) Sub only and 2)Front and Sub.
When playing music I have to set it at Front and Sub to get any kind of bass. The frequency is set at 160hz. This is what YAPO set it at.....I would figure that would provide plenty of low and mid base. I get tired of missing the true surround by running it on 7 enhanced but I get no bass otherwise.
What am I doing wrong? Please help.
post #1774 of 1896
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Originally Posted by Twiztted View Post

Hi all I seem to be having an issue with low bass while playing blu ray movies on any surround setting except 7 channel enhanced. I have run YAPO several times and changed manual adjustments to my liking but no matter what I try the bass seems to go away considerably when in surround sound.
I have tried both config settings 1) Sub only and 2)Front and Sub.
When playing music I have to set it at Front and Sub to get any kind of bass. The frequency is set at 160hz. This is what YAPO set it at.....I would figure that would provide plenty of low and mid base. I get tired of missing the true surround by running it on 7 enhanced but I get no bass otherwise.
What am I doing wrong? Please help.

Hi Twiztted, what model sub and what are the sub settings?

Suggest setting sub volume to about 10 or 11 o'clock position, crossover freq. knob to highest setting (or if the sub has a switch to disable the crossover freq., set it to Digital or Out), phase to "0" and power switch to On (switch to Auto after running auto setup) and then run YAPO.
post #1775 of 1896
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi Twiztted, what model sub and what are the sub settings?

Hi JChin, Thanks for the response.

The Sub is a BIC-f12, settings set to 0 phase, Digital Dolby, Volume at about 5. These are the settings that I ran YAPO at. It changed the frequency output to 80hz this time. My problem still avails though, if I play a blu ray on PLIIx (or any other surround setting) my subwoofer sounds as if its turned off or getting very little signal. When I change the surround sound to 7 channel enhanced then I get the sub inputting like it should be but I lose the true "surround sound" effect. How can I get more kick out of the Sub when its in a true surround setting?
post #1776 of 1896
You have the sub wired using an RCA cable from the sub-out on the AVR, and the F12 set to "DD5/6/7.1" not "PLII" correct? And you have the the AVR set to "sub YES" and BASS OUT set to either SUB or Both. If you get sound out of the sub when the AVR is set to 7-CH then it sounds like the signal is getting from the AVR to the sub okay. Could there possibly be a setting on your Blu-Ray player that is preventing the ".1" from decoding? Have you tried with any other sources... TV or DVD?
post #1777 of 1896
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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

You have the sub wired using an RCA cable from the sub-out on the AVR: Yes

and the F12 set to "DD5/6/7.1" not "PLII" correct?: Yes 7.1

And you have the the AVR set to "sub YES" and BASS OUT set to either SUB or Both.: YAPO Set this to SUB

If you get sound out of the sub when the AVR is set to 7-CH then it sounds like the signal is getting from the AVR to the sub okay.: Yes but when on PLII or other surround sounds it seems the bass isnt working correctly.

Could there possibly be a setting on your Blu-Ray player that is preventing the ".1" from decoding?: Not sure....seems strange that with the 7 Channel Enhanced the SUB acts normally and gives the proper amount of bass with the rest of the sound.

Have you tried with any other sources... TV or DVD?: Unless I turn the SUB config to both Front/SUB it will play music w/o the correct amount of bass as well.

If I set the "pure" or "straight" mode on while playing either music or movies then it switches to 2 channel and SUB and gives the proper volume on both. It seems only when I try to switch the AVR to the surround settings that the bass diminishes to the point that all bass is provided by the center/front channels and the SUB almost seems bypassed.

P.S~ the qoute didn't edit the way I wanted but the answers are applied
post #1778 of 1896
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Originally Posted by Twiztted View Post

If I set the "pure" or "straight" mode on while playing either music or movies then it switches to 2 channel and SUB and gives the proper volume on both. It seems only when I try to switch the AVR to the surround settings that the bass diminishes to the point that all bass is provided by the center/front channels and the SUB almost seems bypassed.

P.S~ the qoute didn't edit the way I wanted but the answers are applied

If after auto setup your speakers are set to Large, change them to small with a crossover at 80Hz.
post #1779 of 1896
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Originally Posted by Twiztted View Post

If I set the "pure" or "straight" mode on while playing either music or movies then it switches to 2 channel and SUB and gives the proper volume on both.

Your edit worked fine - message received.
It sounds like your blu-ray player is only outputing stereo.
What brand and model is your BRP?
post #1780 of 1896
It happens on either the LG BD550 or the PS3 slim.
post #1781 of 1896
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Originally Posted by Twiztted View Post

It happens on either the LG BD550 or the PS3 slim.

If you have the V665 set to pass audio to the TV, all HDMI inputs will be 2-ch.
post #1782 of 1896
I have my bluray player and DVR connected via HDMI to RX-V665 and an HDMI out to my plasma HDTV. It seems like the audio and video are not in sync. I know there's an option to delay the audio from the receiver, but it seems that the video is in need of delay (because I tried delaying the audio and that made it worse). So now I can tell the video is coming first. This is especially annoying with music blurays and it seems to be worse when I stream netflix from my bluray player. Any thoughts on how to fix this? Thanks!
post #1783 of 1896
RX-V665 as preamp with hi end amp? I dont care much about HT, more into stereo but am thinking about getting a V665 on sale that would intern drive my Bryston 6B SST for the front L R and center. I am worried after having read this audioholics.com/education/amplifier-technology/trading article that the preamp cant put out a sufficient power without clipping to power my 29dB voltage gain Bryston. It seems like I would need around 2Vrms from the V665 to drive the Bryston at full power but I have seen people say the V665 can only do about 1Vrms without clipping. What do you think? If not a V665 what sub $400 AVR would you suggest?
post #1784 of 1896
I have heard ppl say that the Yamaha has unusually low voltage output on the RCA sub out, so what you say may be true. I have no experience with that myself (my sub works well with my 565). Also though I am not familiar with your amp, I've also run into similar situations in the past. I've seen the 665 and 765 selling for under $300, but if you want it real bad you could pick one up, try it out and if it doesn't behave nicely then sell it.
post #1785 of 1896
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Originally Posted by radix0 View Post

RX-V665 as preamp with hi end amp? I dont care much about HT, more into stereo but am thinking about getting a V665 on sale that would intern drive my Bryston 6B SST for the front L R and center. I am worried after having read this audioholics.com/education/amplifier-technology/trading article that the preamp cant put out a sufficient power without clipping to power my 29dB voltage gain Bryston. It seems like I would need around 2Vrms from the V665 to drive the Bryston at full power but I have seen people say the V665 can only do about 1Vrms without clipping. What do you think? If not a V665 what sub $400 AVR would you suggest?

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Originally Posted by RobLee View Post

I have heard ppl say that the Yamaha has unusually low voltage output on the RCA sub out, so what you say may be true. I have no experience with that myself (my sub works well with my 565). Also though I am not familiar with your amp, I've also run into similar situations in the past. I've seen the 665 and 765 selling for under $300, but if you want it real bad you could pick one up, try it out and if it doesn't behave nicely then sell it.

Nobody has yet reported that the Yamaha AVRs have failed to adequately drive any particular amp. The output voltage ratings are not standardized, so you never really know till you try. I have no trouble driving a Sunfire Signature amp with the V665, and the Sunfire is rated for 2.0vrms. Whether it's driving it to full power or not is irrelevant cause it's ear-bleeding loud.

I'd wait for a V667 though, they should be dropping in price soon, or one of the Aventage models. They have slightly better front ends.
post #1786 of 1896
I'm looking to use my headphones so I can hear the Yamaha's Silent Cinema. Does anyone know if SC activate when the headphone jack is plugged in or do I have to cycle through the Cinema DSP with the "MOVIE" button? The received doesn't display anything besides "PCM" when I have my headphone in but in the manual it says Silent Cinema should be activated once the headphone jack is plugged in. I just don't see any indicated on the display that Silent Cinema is activated. I want to use the Yamaha Silent Cinema surround sound decoder
post #1787 of 1896
Is there an option to get the receiver to play my speakers when I'm using it with my TV. I can get the speakers to work with my PS3 and media player.
post #1788 of 1896
I apologize in advance if my question has already been answered, but it's somewhat specific, and 51 pages is kind of a lot of text to read through.

I bought the Yamaha RX-V665 and I have a Mac Mini that I'm using as a media center. The receiver doesn't allow me to run my DVI (converted into HDMI) video and my digital (converted into optical) audio together.

I did some research and discovered that I needed a firmware update. I downloaded it, and ran it, but it didn't work. There are a few things that I suspect, and I'm trying to narrow it down before I start spending money on solutions.

Unfortunately, I don't have a CD/DVD player with a digital coax, so I had to use my Mini. It doesn't have a digital coax, but has the little digital audio port. I was considering buying a cable that converted it to a digital coax, but I'm not sure if I will run into a similar problem as converting from a digital signal to an optical one.

I called the customer support, and he suggested that converting it to an optical signal may be my problem, or I may have burned the file at too high of a speed, and he speculated that it may not work using my Mini at all. He also said that they (Yamaha) haven't really tested any other methods other than a coax digital signal from a CD player, so he couldn't give me anymore information, other than taking it to a service center. However, the nearest one is 40 miles away :-(

Has anyone had any experience updating the firmware with any unorthodox methods that worked? And does anyone know if I can get way with using my Mini to update it?
post #1789 of 1896
Before you get twisted up trying to update firmware, you might first want to verify what firmware version is already in the AVR. Instructions for checking this are in the instructions for the update.

Only one of the HDMI ports can be assigned to one of the digital audio inputs, which one depends on which audio input you want to use. These instructions are also included in the update package.
post #1790 of 1896
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Before you get twisted up trying to update firmware, you might first want to verify what firmware version is already in the AVR. Instructions for checking this are in the instructions for the update.

Only one of the HDMI ports can be assigned to one of the digital audio inputs, which one depends on which audio input you want to use. These instructions are also included in the update package.

Thank you for the feedback.

I did read those instructions before trying the update. I didn't have have the feature that it was referring to, and my version wasn't the L034, but it was G024 or something.
post #1791 of 1896
Your best bet is to dig up an old CD or DVD player with optical output.

If you have firmware K032 or later you should have assignability.
post #1792 of 1896
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Your best bet is to dig up an old CD or DVD player with optical output.

If you have firmware K032 or later you should have assignability.

I actually bought it a while ago. My firmware is G028. I don't have that functionality. I realize that getting using a CD/DVD player is the best option. Unfortunately, I don't have one. I've been asking my friends, but I can't seem to find one. I would really like to be able to use what I have without spending money on stuff that I'm only going to use one time.
post #1793 of 1896
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Originally Posted by blognorg View Post

I actually bought it a while ago. My firmware is G028. I don't have that functionality. I realize that getting using a CD/DVD player is the best option. Unfortunately, I don't have one. I've been asking my friends, but I can't seem to find one. I would really like to be able to use what I have without spending money on stuff that I'm only going to use one time.

Maybe you can find a local electronics shop that's familiar with the draconian Yamaha firmware flashing dance and can do it for you.
post #1794 of 1896
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Maybe you can find a local electronics shop that's familiar with the draconian Yamaha firmware flashing dance and can do it for you.

That's a good idea. When I called the customer support, I was referred to a to a service center that is out of town. It's kind of hard to justify spending much money just so that I can put one of my remotes in the drawer
post #1795 of 1896
I have had my Yamaha RX-v665 for a while. I have it hooked up to a 5.1 config. I thought my sub went out because it was an older sub that made odd noises sometimes so I purchased a new one.

The new one does the same thing. The output is almost none. when I put the receiver in test tone mode or the Ypad thing the bass is really poor sounding and very little output at that. I have it plugged into the sub out 1 and have tried it in the sub out 2 and the same thing happends.

Any advice?

Thanks
Dave
post #1796 of 1896
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Originally Posted by yourchamp23 View Post

Any advice?

Thanks
Dave

Have you tried a different cable to the sub?
post #1797 of 1896
I have a Yamaha RXV665BL. Voice output when watching cable/movies isn't too great. I really have to crank it up to hear voices. Can anyone advise me as to how to increase the voice sound?

thanks!
post #1798 of 1896
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Originally Posted by itsmeek View Post

I have a Yamaha RXV665BL. Voice output when watching cable/movies isn't too great. I really have to crank it up to hear voices. Can anyone advise me as to how to increase the voice sound?

thanks!

I suppose you should define "crank it". Most folks are listening at -20db give or take 10db.

Aside from that, there's any number of setup options and DSP modes in the AVR that will effect apparent levels on various inputs.

Have you run YPAO?
post #1799 of 1896
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Originally Posted by itsmeek View Post

I have a Yamaha RXV665BL. Voice output when watching cable/movies isn't too great. I really have to crank it up to hear voices. Can anyone advise me as to how to increase the voice sound?

There is a BIG difference between various models of center channel speakers. Could that possibly be the problem? A center which uses small drivers may have trouble with dialogue. I found tremendous improvement when I upgraded from a Polk CS1 with 5" drivers to a CS2 which has 6" drivers.
post #1800 of 1896
I'm re-visiting the decision of whether to have my TV or my RX-V665 upscale my Wii's 480p component video to my TV's 1080p display.

People have said that it's better to set the RX-V665 to "Through" and let the TV upscale it, but won't this result in a lower-quality upscale if the RX-V665 video ADC is able to digitally sample the analog 480p at a higher resolution? I wouldn't expect that 480p analog to 480p digital (the "Through" setting) would be a true 1:1 conversion, so it seems it would be better to let the RX-V665 do the upscaling if it's able to digitally sample the image at a higher digital resolution than it would otherwise pass to the TV in "Through" mode.

I've done some informal image quality comparisons using my Wii, which is connected via analog 480p component video to my RX-V665 - which is in turn connected via HDMI to my Samsung 1080p HDTV. I'm not a total audiovideophile, so I honestly can't tell much difference other than that there are small black bars around all 4 edges of the picture when the RX-V665 does the upscaling. I'm not sure if this is because it is doing some kind of integer-multiple scaling, or if it's expecting the TV to discard the borders as overscan area (which is silly since it's a digital HDMI 1080p signal at that point). Since I can't detect any other real image quality differences, I'm inclined to go ahead and let the TV do the upscaling so that the picture will fill the whole screen.

The optimal image quality solution, of course, is probably to hook the Wii video directly to my TV (bypassing the RX-V665's video ADC altogether), but it's just too convenient to use the RX-V665 to do input switching for all of my A/V sources.
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