**Offical** Yamaha RX-V665 AV Receiver thread - Page 12

what does the firmware update? sorry too lazy to dig through the site. it's bedtime.

That IS lazy.

"Yamaha is pleased to offer the following firmware update to ensure the best possible performance and
features for your Yamaha RX-V465/565/665/765 AV Receiver. This firmware improves the video input
assignability to the analog audio input and stability for the HDMI connection with other CE products.
"

The addendum to the manual explains the change to input assignability. You can now hookup a source with component video and analog audio such as a Wii. Read the addendum for the full details.

Why they forgot to factor in the Wii when designing their receivers, when they are from Japan, I will never know.

Ok for the lazy

http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/p...DETYP=RELATION

I just did the upgrade (WII owner)

Followed all instructions (did not disconnect any cables except power)

I had no trouble with the upgrade. Unfortunatly it also comes with a complete factory reset. I dont see anything new except for the switching which I needed (guess I can throw the a/d converter in the junk pile). I was only using the audio side anyway since I have a component WII cable

The swiching works good except you have to use Audio 1 or 2 as your selection. If you select the AV 1-6 you only get the video (no audio). When you select Audio 1 or 2 you get both audio and video.

I have upgraded the firmware on both the RX V-665 and the BP-1500
and am having a continuing problem. When I start the Samsung Blu-ray player it starts on the screen at 1080i and then when the player is loading it switches to 720i and I get a scrambled screen. If I do a factory reset on the Samsung, it solves the problem and gives me 1080i, but then I have the factory firmware and not the update again. Then if I power down the Yamaha and the Samsung. The next day, the problem starts again and then I have to do another reset on the Samsung. The Samsung is plugged into the HDMI 2 on the Yamaha. Anyone have any idea???? Samsung says its the receiver and Yamaha says its the blu-ray player. I have switched hdmi cables and that doesnt fix it...HELP!!!!

Brad

It's a total bummer how these manufacturers can shake off any responsibility by just blaming the other guy. And you are left in the middle without a working setup.

I sympathize, but am not sure what advice to offer. The fact that the reset fixes the problem seems to point the blame in the general direction of Samsung, but that's not 100%.

I assume you explained to Samsung that a reset fixed the problem?

Just did the firmware update and it seems to have fixed U73 hadshaking errors with Panasonic BD35 Blu-ray player. Haven't been able to generate the error yet.

I have not been able to program the remote to control my TV, DVD, Cable box, etc.... help!!!!!!!! the manual sucks!

Here's a review of the 665, but no bench test results.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/recei...-receiver.html

Too bad, as their reviews often do include a benchmark. I really wanted to compare the 665 to the 663 output-wise.

OK, after not buying a Pioneer 1018 when they were $329.00 before Christmas last year and kicking myself in the a$$ every since, I've pulled the trigger on the 665 given the fact that you can now assign some inputs (enough for what I invision) and the price from 6ave.

I won't be able to open it until late July (birthday present rules). I hope I'm not kicking myself again in August.

I emailed Rotel and Wyred4sound about this. Haven't heard from Rotel but Wryed4sound replied that their ST-250 amp requires 1.2V to reach full output and that I should be just fine with 1.0V.
I will most likely proceed with my plan to use an external 2-channel amp with the 665. I just need to decide which one (Wyred, Rotel, PS Audio).
Another possibility is the Parasound model 2125 which has an input sensitivity of only 1.0V.

Updating the firmware on the receiver can't hurt at this point. It evidently resolved a handshake problem with Panasonic BD35 Blu-ray player

I also exchanged emails with the tech dept. at PS Audio and there would be no problem using the Trio A-100 (ICEpower) amp in conjunction with the Yamaha 665.
It seems the pre-outs on the 665 are not going to be a problem for most external amps (I'm sure there are exceptions) so it looks like this receiver may be a good choice for those who planned to use an external amp with it.
As a side note, I've emailed Rotel several times and left voice messages twice and they have never responded. I had been leaning toward one of the new Rotel class D amps but now I doubt they will get my business. PS Audio and W4S were both very quick to answer my questions.

The 665 has the same pre-out voltage as the 661 and 663. I'm guessing that just about every know amp is connected to one or the other of these models.

So I'm not sure why someone in this thread had thought it might be a problem. Anyway, I'm glad it's not.

It's a potential problem if an amp requires more input voltage to achieve it's full output current. When's the last time you ran an amp at full output? There's more to it than that, but most people won't notice it. My Sunfire is rated for 2v, twice what the Yamaha puts out, but it works great. I'm not sure but what those input voltage ratings are intended to be maximum input voltage, not minimum. If you're concerned about a particular amp's rating, you'd want to call them and ask what the minimum voltage is.

HI guys,

I just received my V665 today. I got it all hooked up and already I can see a big difference in the amount of control that I have over my system. I haven't gotten around to updating the firmware just yet...simply b/c I have only had a few hours. I do have one question though...

It seems that I have to turn my system up really really far in order to get any sound out of it...the front panel is reading -28db or so. My previous receiver, while not a Yamaha, would start to be more than loud enough at around -50db. Did I do something wrong in the setup? Is there another forum around here that I can check out that deals with these types of questions better?
Here is my setup....
TV - Samsung HP-S5687W
Receiver - Yamaha RX-V665 (duh )
Speakers - 5.1 Bose Surround Sound (Similar to the Acoustimass 6 speaker system found here hxxp://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/home_theater/home_theater_speakers/acoustimass_6/index.jsp
CDPlayer
PS3
Wii
DirecTV HD-DVR

Everything is hooked up via HDMI cables with the exception of the Wii and the CD player.

I tried to use the auto mic, but that didn't fix my problem either...if I even have a problem that is.

Thanks for the help / advise ahead of time!

The 665 has a volume range from -40 or so to +15 or so. Your previous AVR probably had a different range. -28 is actually pretty soft, I'd be running it closer to -15 to -20.

Thanks for the response! I was beginning to think that I was doing something wrong and that I was going to mess something up.

Now onto read how to update the firmware

I am surprised any receiver gets loud at -50 dB. I would think that's odd, not your current situation

Your volume readout depends on how the receiver is designed, how your channel trims are set and what sort of signal level is present on the current source.

I regularly run at -25 to -20 dB on my Yamaha.

another question...

I'm going to be using the Zone 2 feature A LOT on this unit. I have DirecTV...so I listen to the XM stations on there a lot as well. My question is can I listen to HDMI 2 via Zone 2 on this unit?

no receiver that I am aware of takes HDMI to Zone 2. Even digital audio (optical/coax) to Zone 2 is a "high end" feature typically found only on $1000+ receivers.

the vast majority of receivers are ANALOG ONLY to Zone 2. You need a stereo analog (red/white RCA cable) connection to the receiver to get audio to Zone 2.

That makes sense. I guess I could always just put an extra set of outputs from the DirecTV receiver to the 665 into say AV1 or something right?

Yes, but you would probably use it's audio inputs, not AV inputs based on my understanding of how the 665 works. It lacks flexibility.

Yeah that makes more sense than what I said

Thanks again!

I just got the receiver and everything is working okay except for one thing. I am using HDMI for my monitor (PC) and I am trying to figure out how to assign digital coax audio with my HDMI input?

The instructions are not the easiest I have read but I am still trying. The coax is plugged into the AV2 input.

Thanks

You cannot assign digital inputs on the 665, you have to use the HDMI input that has the coax input.

I am a little confused. So, how exactly can I get audio going into the receiver? The HDMI cable is coming from my video card in the PC so there is no way it can provide audio from there. Do I have to use a line-in cable from the sound card into the receiver?

You may wind up using the function that allows you to watch video from one source while listening to another. The manual explains how to do that. You could use either stereo analog inputs or SPDIF.

Wow, I am shocked. I thought with receivers nowadays, it is common feature to have assignable digital audio signals. Even my 3 year old Onkyo receiver has this feature. I should have done more research before dropping $350+ on this receiver. It was my fault though, 100%.

My main goal was to use my PC with the silent cinema feature (headphones). I am not finding anywhere in the instructions where I can feed audio into the receiver while using HDMI. I am still not gonna give up but I am a little dismayed right now.