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post #511 of 773
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Originally Posted by tausifs View Post

is there a lens cap available for the planar ? Mine came with a loosely fitting tranparent flimsy lid .

I take it no-one knows of any real lens cap for the Planar...

While on the subject of comparison with the Benq W5000, having seen both PJs myself, I would add that the Planar has jaw dropping handling of motion. This is something I never knew my own PJ (Optoma HD80) was particularly wanting in either .

Just view Spiderman3, the 1st fight between Spiderman and Peter's best friend Harry (James Franco).
post #512 of 773
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Originally Posted by tausifs View Post

BTW, how much does the Planar 8150 sell for in the States ? I have paid the equivalent of $6,150 including all taxes.

The UK recommended retail price including all taxes is $9,800 (£5,995).

Hi Tausifs,

How did you get the Planar at that price in the UK?
post #513 of 773
Is the Planar similar to every other PJ when it comes to lamp dimming over time?

What us the rate of this dimming, how noticeable, and how much does it screw up a calibration?

Would you just up the brightness one notch every year or so, or would you need a whole new calibration?

Thanks?
post #514 of 773
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Originally Posted by sneill View Post

Hi Tausifs,

How did you get the Planar at that price in the UK?

It turned out the online retailer took my order and payment but then emailed me later to say the PD8150 was 'discontinued' - I take this to mean they were no longer going to stock it. I guess when it seems too good to be true then it probably isn't, as they say.

I will probably go for the cheaper PD8130 now.
post #515 of 773
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Originally Posted by gamelover360 View Post

Is the Planar similar to every other PJ when it comes to lamp dimming over time?

What us the rate of this dimming, how noticeable, and how much does it screw up a calibration?

Would you just up the brightness one notch every year or so, or would you need a whole new calibration?

Thanks?

thats a good question that i would like to know as well. since the planar only has 2 brightness settings (low and standard) then i don't think it would be possible to up the brightness really other than playing with the picture settings but then you would have to adjust contrast as well. i think it can be done but not sure how much of an affect it will have overall on brightness. hopefully someone with the unit and an aged bulb can chime in.
post #516 of 773
Dimming is inherent to projector lamps, no projector is immune unless it moves to an entirely different technology (eg the Vivitek with it's LED light sources).
post #517 of 773
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Originally Posted by mirageburbank View Post

The only thing I can't stand about the Benq is it takes forever to warm up.

Actually looks to be right about the same I think. I got all the commands I need working in my MX880 last night and I watched the macro run today when I fired it up, and the source info box (which AFAIK shows up once it's "warmed up") showed up about a second before my 37 second delay finished in my power up macro.
post #518 of 773
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Originally Posted by tausifs View Post

I take it no-one knows of any real lens cap for the Planar...

Well the lens has threads for a 72mm filter, so if you bought a generic 72mm lens cap like this, you might be fine. I suppose it may not work (I haven't tried and the lenses I own are 77mm), but for the money, may be worth the try.

Rick
post #519 of 773
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Originally Posted by ender21 View Post

Well the lens has threads for a 72mm filter, so if you bought a generic 72mm lens cap like this, you might be fine. I suppose it may not work (I haven't tried and the lenses I own are 77mm), but for the money, may be worth the try.

Rick

Thank you- nice tip. I will look into it.
post #520 of 773
It is being offered at a very aggressive price by one of the big European internet shops.

If not for the fact that I can't finance it anyway at this point I would be very tempted.
post #521 of 773
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Originally Posted by audiomaniac View Post

It is being offered at a very aggressive price by one of the big European internet shops.

If not for the fact that I can't finance it anyway at this point I would be very tempted.

yes , if its the one I'm thinking of , I ordered from them and they then said they had none in stock, claimed it was discontinued, and they canceled my order- only for me to see a few days later that they claim they have stock again. I am skeptical as to whether they have them, something fishy is going on.

Aside from that, the 8150 has been around for some time now. I am surprised that there is no official talk of a successor- if I am not mistaken, the 8150/30 were their first ever full HD PJs ie. their only full HD models. I gather they have exited the display market. I fear they may do the same with their PJ business. It would be a real loss.
post #522 of 773
Thread Starter 
You will not see a successor to the 8150 anytime soon, maybe next CEDIA, but not this year. Planar is focused on the Runco line right now and will probably take a trickle down approach with the Planar line over time.
post #523 of 773
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Originally Posted by tausifs View Post

yes , if its the one I'm thinking of , I ordered from them and they then said they had none in stock, claimed it was discontinued, and they canceled my order- only for me to see a few days later that they claim they have stock again. I am skeptical as to whether they have them, something fishy is going on.

Aside from that, the 8150 has been around for some time now. I am surprised that there is no official talk of a successor- if I am not mistaken, the 8150/30 were their first ever full HD PJs ie. their only full HD models. I gather they have exited the display market. I fear they may do the same with their PJ business. It would be a real loss.


Does their name start with "pi"?
post #524 of 773
Frankly, I don't think that's a bad thing. I don't think there's been any significant enough advances in technology to warrant a new model right now. Just look at JVC, all they did this year was slap FI on last years models.

There's some promise out there for major advances in DLP technology, but they're not ready for a 8150-type price point yet. There's been talk of new DMDs, and there's LED illumination, but neither are ready now (LED judging by the Vivitek price/performance). Basically I don't think a new model would really bring anything to the table as of today.

Let's hope Planar is working on a locally lit LED machine, maybe with a new DMD for next CEDIA. Now that would be worth releasing

And I think I may well enjoy my Planar more every time I sit down in front of it. I watched the first disc of Torchwood: Children of Earth last night, and man this Planar is gorgeous
post #525 of 773
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Originally Posted by stanger89 View Post

Just look at JVC, all they did this year was slap FI on last years models.

I'm not convinced of that yet. Let's wait for final data or even first reviews before judging the JVCs.
post #526 of 773
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Originally Posted by madshi View Post

I'm not convinced of that yet. Let's wait for final data or even first reviews before judging the JVCs.

The 990 appears to be more, yes, but it doesn't sound like much else changed. Of course if the FI on the JVCs can "solve" their motion issues without creating the "soap opera effect" there will be very little to complain about with them anyway
post #527 of 773
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Originally Posted by stanger89 View Post

The 990 appears to be more, yes, but it doesn't sound like much else changed.

May I bring some JVC history back to your mind?

CEDIA 2008: JVC introduces HD350 and HD750 and claims native CR of 15k:1 and 30k:1. Here's proof:

http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...+from+JVC.html
http://uk.cinenow.com/videos/1801-jv...po-denver-2008
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/09/04...tors-at-cedia/
http://news.softpedia.com/news/CEDIA...rs-93024.shtml

A few weeks after CEDIA 2008 JVC suddenly ups the specs to 30k:1 and 50k:1, claiming that the older specs hadn't been final yet.

http://www.engadgethd.com/tag/DLA-HD350/

So as you can see, last year even the specs advertized at CEDIA were not final yet, but were increased later. Today we have conflicting information about the new HD550/950: The preliminary spec sheet says native CR was not increased. But the press release says otherwise. So I think it's a good idea to keep your mind open for possible spec increases during/after CEDIA, just like it happened last year. I believe HD550/950 are likely to end up with increased native CR specs. I think JVC has simply not decided yet which exact numbers to advertize exactly. Just like in 2008.
post #528 of 773
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Originally Posted by audiomaniac View Post

Does their name start with "pi"?

yes that's the one, they are based in France.
post #529 of 773
I have heard that Planar as a brand no longer exists and that the 8130/8150's will be rebadged as Runco models. Anyone else heard this ?
post #530 of 773
They appear to have been shown as Runco models at CEDIA:

http://blog.ultimateavmag.com/cedia2...co_lightstyle/
post #531 of 773
Sure looks like it. Thanks. Bummer, that will probably make it more expensive than I am willing to pay.
post #532 of 773
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Originally Posted by tausifs View Post

Sure looks like it. Thanks. Bummer, that will probably make it more expensive than I am willing to pay.

Shouldn't be, it's still the same MSRP- $7K.
post #533 of 773
Looking at the Runco picture it looks like a flat gun metal black finish, the Planar has a shiny piano black finish. But everything else looks identical.

I picked up a Dealer Demo unit recently and while not totally installed or put though all it's paces I'm very happy with the sharpness and the out of the box colors.
post #534 of 773
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Originally Posted by BIGmouthinDC View Post

Looking at the Runco picture it looks like a flat gun metal black finish, the Planar has a shiny piano black finish. But everything else looks identical.

It might just be the lighting, the 8150 isn't actually Piano black, it's got a very subtle metallic finish to it. If you get it in the right light you can tell.
post #535 of 773
atleast runco sounds more "high-end"!!
post #536 of 773
I got confirmation from my Planar dealer that the 8130 and 8150 are being phased out over the next ~6 months in favor of the Runco-badged LS-3 and LS-5.

I guess it doesn't make sense to have identical models running concurrently, but I was somewhat surprised nonetheless.
post #537 of 773
Well in the UK you simply cannot buy a Planar PJ any more. They are no longer in production, I was told by the distributor, CSE Custom or if not, no longer being exported to the UK, I suspect the former though. In fact, the distributor for Runco is a different one in the UK, Pulse Marketing which could kind of complicate things so far as warranty follow up- you have the potential of both distributors to pass the buck through lack of direction from Planar who I believe bought Runco.
post #538 of 773
Pity they never fixed the Australian pricing model. I'm sure Runco won't improve that situation either.
post #539 of 773
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Originally Posted by ender21 View Post

I got confirmation from my Planar dealer that the 8130 and 8150 are being phased out over the next ~6 months in favor of the Runco-badged LS-3 and LS-5.

I guess it doesn't make sense to have identical models running concurrently, but I was somewhat surprised nonetheless.

Will follow up closely for a close out deal if I don't buy the RS20 by then.
post #540 of 773
They have announced no close out deal. because they are going to sell the same exact machines with aRRunco badge. Same factory yada yada. Your best deal would be a Planar dealer with stock (probably not going tohappen, most dealers order projectors as they need them) or a dealer selling off his\\her demo. Most Planar dealers have already done so. But dealers can still order Planars at the same prices as before the brand consolidation.
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