TVGOS ( TV Guide On Screen ) Devices - Page 15

FWIW, I just received a phone call from Mits. Apparently the firmware upgrade I received from them months ago was the wrong version. They are sending me another version. I will report back with details when I receive it.

After updating the firmware on both of my sets several months ago, I lost all TVGOS functionality. I contacted CBS corporate in NYC a few months ago, and they had Macrovision contact me regarding "my issues". Needless to say, after working with the Macrovision engineers over a period of almost 3 months, I'm still without a working guide. So I may be bugging you to email me that firmware upgrade when you get it so I can try it out on my WD57732s.

You lost it because of the fact you lost a analog host. The set does work on a CATV system with a channel that has SCTE127 data.
At least it does here. What is the version number of your TV's firmware (not TVGOS).

Ok, on the PM.

Comcast in South Florida is carrying the TVGOS stream on both the analog and the digital versions of the local CBS affiliate (WFOR). I have a Sony KDL-40V4150 that had been connected to an antenna for a couple of months before I contacted CBS management; strangely, only a few days after I received a response from CBS-NY, Macrovision and WFOR, the Sony was able to find the stream and display a guide. Unfortunately, that only lasted for about a week before the grid started showing "NO LISTINGS" in all of the cells, then the guide disappeared entirely and the TV started searching for a channel with guide data all over again. That was 2 months ago, and it has still not been able to find a host channel despite 6 TVGOS reset sequences and 3 factory resets on the TV. As for the Mitsubishis, one of them was able to find the digital host channel and displayed guide data for about 3 days, then it began failing (at about the same time as the Sony). Both Mits displays are connected to both an antenna as well as a CableCard. Now none of my sets have a guide. What's weird is that a test device (a little TVGOS tuner Macrovision loaned me for a few weeks) was never able to find a host channel, either OTA or via cable.

I learned that Macrovision gave a test TV (a Pioneer Kuro) to WFOR which has not (according to them) had any TVGOS problems. I think it would be nice if Macrovision had done the same for everyone who lost TVGOS functionality when they decided to become "creative" with the software.

My Mits sets are both running firmware version V33 008.03.

There are at least two other threads regarding TVGOS, one under RPTV's (Mit's) and one under HD Recorders (Sony DVR).

Has anyone been able to find a new training manual for TVGOS for the digital system?
I Emailed and then called Sony, but they were of no help what so ever.
Perhaps someone here with a newer tv which has a later version of TVGOS using the digital guide could check it out with their tv manufacturer. Sure would be helpful to know what screens and pertinent information is needed on order to acquire a grid and listings.
Thanks,
Michael

If you find one, be sure you a copy to Macrovision.
The only 'new' ones would be for V9.

You left your TV on for 23 days? My Toshiba owners manual specifies that the TV needs to be OFF in order for it to receive the TVGOS data.

I received a e-mail from the new name "Rovi" (that's a name??). Here is the new site;
http://www.rovicorp.com/support/9391.htm?link_id=topnav
From the profile of the Chairman;
$50 he can't get this to work either.

My sig comes into play again.

Does anyone know what is going on in Chicago since the June 12 transition? My TV had no data when I last checked on 7/9.

Cable I couldn't tell you, but WBBM-DT is broadcasting the digital TVGOS. That's it for OTA.

I'm getting it okay with my digital-tunered Sony DHG-HDD500 that has version 8. What TV do you have, and what guide version?

Have you tried the G* test, any firmware upgrades or the DTV Pal?

Ya, I'm talking about OTA... I have never been able to pick up WBBM (analog or digital) in Lockport because their signal is so weak. Also, I actually lost WLS after the transition since they moved from physical channel 52 to 7.

Does any know if cox cable in the Phoenix Az area is carrying the TVGOS stream? A cox cable rep could not comprehend the question.

Go here and enter your zipcode, and select Cox. I believe it is supposed to be carrying it (it should report "known to be working").

Mark

I checked my V7 DMR-EH50 and lo and behold I have a new channel in the default line up.

Channel 151 - KREXD- Grand Junction, Glenwood Springs and Montrose Colorado.
Of course you can't pick up KREX anywhere in Denver OTA that I've heard of. Over a hundred miles of very large Rocky Mountains in the way.

When I check the channel lineup editor there are 2 new turned off channels that don't have channel numbers associated.

KELO-DT which is in South Dakota
KOLND which is in Nebraska

neither of which I can get - maybe someone out on the east fringe of Denver reception can pick them up under the right atmospheric conditions. I know people in north and east Denver that pick up channels out of Cheyenne Wyoming clear as a bell though Cheyenne's a lot closer.

All 3 of these channels are CBS affiliates. I'm still missing NBC (KCNC) and couple of large local independent stations (KTVD, KWGN) in the Denver market (I'm only getting TVGOS listings for ABC, CBS, FOX, and 1 of the 2 PBS affiliates).


According to http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=tvgos
KELO, and KOLN are transmitting TVGOS data. And there are dummy zipcodes for both Nebraska and South Dakota in the DTVPal manual. So it makes no sense to me why they're showing up in my OTA channel lineup in Denver and I still can't get listings for NBC in my channel lineup, even after doing the no lineup match manual editing. (It just resets to the now 5 default stations after 36 - 48 hours).

KREX - not clear why it's in the Denver OTA. KREX is not listed as transmitting TVGOS (it's a CBS affiliate).

So the post transition TVGOS channel lineup weirdness continues here in Denver metro.

I'm trying to get my TVGOS working with my Panasonic DMR-EH75V via the Dish PAL converter box. I receive my TV signal via the building, not sure what source they use. Possibly a combination of satellite and cable signals that are pumped into a common coax cable going to all the apartments in the building. I'm using the PAL converter box to obtain TVGOS via local over-the-air CBS digital station. So my Panny has two signal inputs. The building coax is connected to the Panny's regular TV antenna input, and the PAL is input to the Panny through the IN3 input, using component cables. Question: Both the Panny & PAL manuals say that I need to use the IR Blaster to get TVGOS to work with a set top box (Dish PAL). Is this true? My understanding is that the Panny DVR uses the IR Blaster to change channels on the converter box. In my case, however, I'm not concered about that. I don't want the PAL to change channels, because I'm not using the channels received from the PAL converter. I'm tuning the PAL to CBS and leaving it there to upload TVGOS. So far, however, it's not working with this arrangement. Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated.

For the TVGOS to work it has to go through the antenna input on the Panasonic from the DTVPal box and it (pal) set to channel 3 or 4. By using IN3 and component cables, you are bypassing the Panny RF tuner and thereby bypassing the processing of the TVGOS. Do you not have a cable input on the Panny as well? If not , there are antenna switchers that could work if set up properly.
Michael

yes, and if there ISN'T a channel 3 on the present antenna input (or 4), you can set the Pal to whichever and then just use a 10 buck splitter/joiner from Radio Shack...

Aha. See, in the DTV Pal manual, they don't tell you that. They make it appear that it will work when just hooking it up to a line input.

If that is absolutely true in every case, than that would be an important finding that should be stressed on all the TVGOS-related threads on this forum.

I know the Sony and LG HD-DVR users were setting it up that way, but it was never made clear to the old, analog-tunered-only HDD/DVD recorder, VCR and TV users - which is what these TVGOS converter CECB's were primarlily intended to be used with.

(Actually, last time I tried setting my EH55 up with the Pal using RF it wouldn't download a guide, but that was probably over a month ago - so I suppose I could try it again now.)

Hi. I just came across this group and joined and I need help! Sorry if these are obvious questions, I'm not a techie person and I've never posted on a board like this. I want to get a dvr / pvr / dvd recorder with TVGOS but I'm confused what is offered, what will work, and what the internet says.

I have comcast cable in Miami. My homeowner association pays for expanded basic cable that gives 75+ channels. One tv is plugged into the cable directly in the wall and I get the "free" local digital channels (ex. 6.1 = NBC). To me, it looks like HD, I dont understand the difference between digital and HD, but that's another forum. Anyway, my tv with no box, gets all these channels AND, the same 75 channels in digital with weird numbers like 180-41.

Then, downstairs I have a HDTV with a cable box / DVR / HD. I have the "digital starter" package in addition to the basic expanded service paid by my HOA because comcast says the ONLY way their DVR will work is if I have a digital package. But, the weird thing is that this supposed "digital" package does NOT give the "free" local digital channels like 6.1. Comcast told me I get those in the HD channels (NBC HD in comcast is 432).

All I want it to be able to record my basic expanded cable with the free local digital channels (like on my tv with no box) on a dvr and have the TVGOS work so I don't have to pay for tivo.

I found a listing on ebay and the seller says he lives in CA, has comcast, and it works ok.

TOSHIBA RD-XS35 (160 GB) DVD REC/ HDD REC. W/FREE TVGOS - item #200367192341

I found the site called "rabbit ears" that says a CBS station in Miami is a "host" and works with digital.

I didn't read all 15 pages of posts but you guys seem like you know a lot. What should I do? I just want a cheap DVR with TVGOS that will work with Comcast in Miami now that everything switched. Sorry if this has been answered before, but any advice is appreciated!! Thanks for reading if you made it this far........

The Toshiba doesn't work with a digital TVGOS signal. It only has an analog tuner - which means it can't pick up digital channels. The only thing that *might* work the way you want is this (no guarantees, though):

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=537711

Thank you so much for your reply! A friend of mine has a Sony DVR that she got a few years ago that was working fine up until recently. She didn't try and troubleshoot or do a reset, just unplugged it. She said I can try to use hers and get it to work. I'm not sure about the model #, I'll repost when I know and update what happens.

Do you guys know if anyone is trying to fix this? It seems like the issue of TVGOS not working with digital is pretty bad. Seems like lots of stuff is changing with digital. Even though the picture is better, I feel like I have to pay more to watch tv, especially the local channels that should be free. And, I want to record the local digital channels that are free, but it seems like all the systems that will do that you have to pay alot. I read about some new system Liquid coming from the company that makes TVGOS. Will that come to Miami soon?

Thank you Michael for your reply. While I don't dispute your reply as to whether TVGOS will not work through IN3, as I'm a newbie to the forum and you're a senior member with hundreds of posts, however, this is what I found. While waiting for replies to my question in post #437, I hooked up the IR Blaster with the above mentioned configuration and it (TVGOS) started working! With that said, I would still prefer not to use the IR Blaster, as it is a mess to work with. Question: In post #439, avnstf suggested using a $10 splitter/joiner from Radio Shack to merge the two signals (antenna & DTV PAL box) so they can be input to the DVR coax input. This would, as you said, 'not bypass the DVR tuner' where the TVGOS signal is decoded. But are splitters and joiners interchangeable? I ask this because I took an old splitter apart and there were a bunch of discreet electronic items (coils, chokes, etc.) inside. This makes me wonder if the signal will flow backward through a splitter and become a joiner. Make sense? By the way, anyone have a Radio Shack joiner part number? Thanks to all for your help. Much appreciated.

I can't speak to the EH75V but on my EH50 the DTVPal works just fine through IN3.
But as a part of the setup process the Panny asks me which input the DTVPal (cable box) is attached to ch3, ch4 or IN3 and I select IN3. Don't know if the EH75V supports that.

I can't speak to the EH75V but on my EH50 the DTVPal works just fine through IN3.

You're correct, the DTVPal will with work fine with the EH75V through IN3. But the real question under discussion in this thread is getting the TVGOS to work. Does your EH50 pick up TVGOS through IN3?

My EH50 has that capability as does my EH-55, but again one must use IN3 not 1 or 2.

If you Panny is an analog device using analog TVGOS, then you would need to use the blaster to change the channel back to the host during the download period. I am not sure what you are trying to do. I know you said you are getting your primary programming through your cable for your complex, but it is not carrying TVGOS which you are only able to get OTA. I do not think you will be able to join the signals together and have it work properly as the siganls from both sources will conflict at some point with each other. If the Panny IN3 works as they say, then leaving it (DTVPal) tuned to the host channel may just work, but will the Panny look for the host there? I don't know, as I have a very old Panny which does not have TVGOS.
But my girlfriend has an E85, which I will check out this weekend. Will let you know what I find.
Michael

Yes. Sorry I did not make that explicitly clear - the Pal is in TVGOS mode. The EH50 getting a grid and channel listings through IN3