TVGOS ( TV Guide On Screen ) Devices - Page 27

Thank you for your feedback. I thought as much. Do you receive analog or digital data? My query to Sony left me less than satisfied. Language issue I think.

I believe any of the TVGOS versions are capable of 8 days, and most devices display all 8 days. The TVGOS daily, like on recent Sony TVs only display 24 hours of that 8 days. Maybe they pay a smaller royalty to TVGOS for this minimal service?? Maybe it just takes less memory in the device itself?? Either way all you'll get is 24 hrs with a recent Sony TV that has TVGOS.

By the way, Joe - that's a mighty talented cat you must have there.

Thanks. She says thank you.

I initially contacted Rovi via the method indicated by videobruce. They generally respond within a few weeks.

Happy to report that analog TVGOS is up and working again in Houston.
We continued our communications with Rovi. They became aware that there were problems in Houston. After Rovi notified us of this, we also received a message from Comcast that the analog TVGOS feed was shutdown by our host provider since it was not thought to be needed.
We are thankful to have the service restored. Getting it restored required the cooperation of three companies. Rovi was very instrumental in facilitating. kudos

Rovi was very instrumental in facilitating. kudos [/quote]

Same kudos from me. I may be the only TGVOS/CableCard user in Chico Ca. Rovi has helped me with Comcast's wrong and missing listings in TVGOS. Thank You Rovi...

Gregg

Don't know if the first post of the thread is being updated anymore, but the Dish/Echostar/Sling/ChannelMaster DTVPal DVR/CM7000 DVR does TVGOS.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1099071

I can't find out the cost so far. Even the cheif engineer of my cable company doesn't know.

If you are thinking like I am it would be nice to buy one and have your own personal TVGOS inserter in your home.
The cheif engineer at my cable company said they are the easiest things he ever hooked up but the most difficult to get any information on.

Only the earlier Version 9's were 8 day guides. The last V 9's, which were released by sony and mitsubishi, are daily guides.

Only sony is embedding the V 10 and it is a daily guide. I think one of the reasons the 8 day guide has been discontinued is because of the demise of the CableCard.
There doesn't seem to be a setup in the V 9 guide to use a cable box and most cable companies are now getting rid of their analog line ups and the digital channels are being scrambled. This will require the device to have a cable card slot or use a cable box to get the channels which no current (V 10) TVGOS embedded device has the capability of doing.
My V 9 pioneer has no G link and no set up to use the guide with a cable box. It does have a cable card slot.

There is in the V9 Panasonic EH75V and EH55 HDD/DVD recorders (I have both).

You can also set them up to use with Direct and Dish (but you don't need the IR blaster to control the Dish tuner).

http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_el...1_09_eh55.html

Another thing - other than when using it with Dish, which you can only set up alone for, you can set it up to use two sources at once. So you at least used to be able to get the guide info for cable or Direct OTA (I don't know if they still make that available using a Pal or Artec converter box - assuming that'll even work at all for you), if you weren't able to get it directly from them.

The manual claims you can get the TVGOS data from the Direct signal through their tuner, though (or at least certain models) - and some here have said they have (they only had it set up for and were using it with Direct, so, unless they were picking up some odd, analog, OTA TVGOS host without an antenna, or getting some mighty strong cable bleed through their coax from somewhere, they couldn't have been lying. Some here pooh-pooed them, saying it's not possible, because the signal and tuner are digital, and the Panny's tuner is strictly analog, but they swore they were - and the manual does say you can).

With Dish, the TVGOS page remains blank - you set up the name-based recordings through the Dish guide, and the recorder starts and stops on it's own. So it really doesn't "use" TVGOS in the traditional way. You just have to go through the TVGOS setup to enable it. I've had my EH75V set up with Dish that way for the last few years. It's extremely similar to using a PalDVR - same menus and recording features - except it's SD, of course. So the loss of TVGOS data that has affected so many others in the last couple of years hasn't been an issue for me at all (only works with certain models of Dish tuners, too, though).

No no no nonononononono... the "DTVPal" and "DTVPal DVR" are entirely different devices. The only thing they share is menu styling and manufacturer.

DTVPal: ATSC CECB, SDTV out on RF or composite only, stereo sound only.

DTVPal DVR: ATSC Dual tuner HDTV recorder with SD on RF and composite out, SD or HD on component or HDMI out, with optical audio output.

They're very much different devices.

Note: "DTVPal" and "DTVPal+" are also different, with the "+" having some newer hardware inside IIRC but otherwise they're the same.

edit: Two other things, first the DVR uses TVGOS but doesn't use TVGOS-provided software to do it (as far as we can tell). Second, the "DTVPal" (CECB) doesn't use the TVGOS in the signal, when TVGOS is enabled on it the device reformats the PSIP data as a TVGOS-compatible analog stream and puts that out.

Re: Previous post: Does the DTVPal DVR (aka "Channelmaster 7000 DVR") use the TVGOS user interface?

reason I ask is, I currently have an LG 42LB1DR tv-- one of a very few TV's with TVGOS *and* a built-in DVR. Well, the DVR keeps dying and I have to replace it-- I'm hoping for a similar (or, exact!) user interface (TVGOS) for my wife to use!

It's got a Dish-styled interface. If you've used a Dish sat box it would be familiar though not exactly the same. By all accounts the ChannelMaster version is the same but differently colored.

TVGOS analog appears to be down again in Houston area. In process of contacting Comcast and Rovi to see if can be restored.

Have you ever checked the Sony DHG-HDD250/500 thread for TVGOS information? Starting on the top of page 728 (the end right now) begins posts talking about the Rove blackout that started on 10/24. Listings were restored on 10/26.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post19383073

I think that link will take you to that post. Best of luck.

Thank you so much for the information. Glad to report that we also started getting analog tvgos data transmission again this morning. Our data transmission stopped on Oct 13th. With our device that means we lost all listings 8 days later on Oct 21st.

You're welcome. What hardware are you using? Analog implies cable. Which one?

We are using Panasonic drm-eh75 with Comcast analog cable. (I have started posting additional information regarding our analog tvgos issues with the users of this device thinking maybe this post is more for tvgos digital issues) Unfortunately being back up and running was very shortlived for us. We only had tv guide listings for the one day and then they stopped again. We are still getting data transmissions, clock updates, and a vbi host presence according to the diagnostic screens. Just sent another email off to Rovi to update and are hoping the issues are still being worked on.

Appreciate the information in the forum. It is hard to know if the problem is the vbi host channel, the content provider, or Rovi.
Thanks

I have an EZ28 that can't record my digital cable. It does work fine when fed via an HD tuner. I have a lot of DVD-RAM disks and Toshiba stopped their support for them. My guide is V8 from a Sony DHG (I have four). At least you know where to look for a second opinion about the TVGOS in your market. The internet-based V10 on my Sony TV hasn't missed a day yet. Take care.
Joe

I just heard that KYW in Philadelphia has stopped OTA V8 packets. Can anyone verify this?

Never mind. It's been confirmed.

Joe, Rich Paleski at KYW (215-977-5300) was apparently on the case yesterday afternoon, and a few listings did dribble in, but as of Thursday morning it's still down. Two phone messages and one email to ROVI CS have produced zero response. If I don't hear from them by Friday (given that today is a holiday), and it's still not fixed, I'm going to call Ken Murphy at ROVI Radnor (610-293-8500) again.

UPDATE: everything appears fixed as of Saturday evening.

It's Sunday morning. Anyone with V9 (8 day listings) missing day 7 and day 8?
I have a lot of data packets with V8, but nothing but 'no listings'. No ads either.

Right now (Sunday afternoon) I have almost complete listings for day 7 (next Saturday) and partial listings for day 8 (next Sunday).

(Sony DHG-HDD500, V8 TVGOS, OTA via South Carolina ETV)

Apparently, something that ROVI sent out Thursday 11/4 "broke" a lot of their inserter units at the local stations. KYW in Philly apparently had a horde of engineers working on theirs from last Wednesday through Saturday (minus the holiday on Thursday) to get it back on the air (most listings were back by Saturday evening). I would write it off as a simple local equipment failure were it not for the fact that it happened at about the same time in a number of markets nationally. Maybe something new and wonderful they were trying to make the Daylight-Standard time transition go more smoothly

We are being archived. Just when I wanted to post that I got HD cable service and the TVGOS on the box has ten days of listings. Is that like a version 9.5? It's not pretty and no options or documentation.

90% of the overly long Sony DVR thread is this topic, but they refused to move that discussion here where all could benefit. Though some of that discussion relates just to that unit, the rest is broad based.
It would surely make more sense if it was here instead of filling up that thread that should be related to issues exclusive to that DVR.

That also would apply to the DTVPal DVR (now sold by Channel Master) that had some discussion relating to their 'odd' implication of Rovi's date. I beleive most there really don't understand how the system works. Some even thought the data was through the mostly useless Ethernet port.