TVGOS ( TV Guide On Screen ) Devices - Page 32

Originally Posted by Rammitinski

The Panasonic EH55 and EH75V with v9 are compatible with Direct and Dish.

He must be using one of those two models with DirecTV, if it's actually getting the appropriate guide data (it doesn't get guide data with Dish - you program the recordings through the Dish tuner's guide. I have one of each model, and have been using them with Dish that way for a few years).

I know it sounds improbable for the unit to be getting guide data through the Direct tuner, but some people here have sworn it works, even without adding an antenna to get it OTA (you can get the guide data for it OTA, though - I've actually set up for and gotten it, just for the heck of it).

According to the setup procedure, you don't need an antenna to get it. Supposedly gets it right from the Direct tuner. I have no clue how it actually works. Maybe Jed1 knows (all I do know is that I was able to get the call letters for some of the local stations when I had my v7 recorders hooked up to my Dish tuner, without an antenna hooked up. Figure that one out. It wasn't even v9, nor was it with Direct. Yeah, I know you're probably thinking I must've been high, but I swear to you, it actually happened).

The way those two models work with Dish, though, is a lot easier to fathom. The tuner sends out some kind of cueing signal, which starts and stops the recorder. It basically works just like if you were using a DTV Pal DVR. It goes into a "pause" mode two minutes before it starts, and you can pad the times, etc.

Originally Posted by iver81

hi, I've been reading this forum about TVGOS and tried several remedies but... nothing seemed to work
Sony KDL46Z4100 model, TVGOS stopped working several months ago. The software/firmware was updated. In Los Angeles/Long Beach, 90815. OTA antenna on the roof. No cable, no sat but we have hooked up the WII for netflix ( I had this problem before netflix).
I've shut the TV off overnight (it did ask for time/set up but the TVGOS was still what I had before. I allowed auto channel select hoping to it clear up). I get channel call letters, even program name on the header when changing channels but the guide has no info. Is it just me? Have I not done something? thanks

Originally Posted by JoeKustra

Ever wonder how an OTA data stream can cause problems with a satellite signal? Ever wonder if Dish causes problems with DirectTV? Sounds like male bovine excrement to me. And why would a broadcast station even care? Did Dish/Direct threaten to sue or call the FCC?

Are you saying only the time is wrong, and all the channels and listings are correct? That's a real trick.

Originally Posted by kcclark

I'm in Columbus too like the guy you responded to. I called Channel 10 weeks ago and all I was told was that it would be fixed real soon. I should have had them define "real soon" for me.

I'm using a DTV PAL DVR. If the true tvgos signal is being received, you get a TV Guide logo in the corner. I have not seen that in weeks.

I noticed the problem on a Monday. None of Friday's listings or beyond were available. I still had my TV Guide logo. As the week progressed, Friday and beyond were still unavailable but I still had my TV Guide logo. When Friday came, no TV Guide logo and I was getting limited listings.

For me, the channels all show up in the grid and the time is correct. I normally have the correct listings for about the next 5 hours but after that, they are unavailable. OTOH, Channel 10's listings are good for about the next 15 hours. For an added bonus today, none of the listings worked for the ABC affiliate.

Since things went south, 3 new channels have appeared in my listings. The channels are too far away to receive but I get show listings for 2 of the channels.

I loved my DTV PAL until I lost my 7-day show listings. Now I have to set up recordings based on what I read in the paper, which does not include any of the more obscure channels. Plus I get a lot of recordings that do not know what they are, which is annoying when you are trying to figure out what to watch on your DVR.

Originally Posted by bwall23

It is interesting following the posts of those that have "stuck with it" for TVGOS. I was a fan-boy of it when I purchased my first HDTV, a Mits RPTV in 2007 that relied on it. Now, I just find it interesting reading the trials and tribulations of those that have stuck with it and are hoping it continues. Just want to let you know that although I no longer use TVGOS, I will try to keep this thread updated as long as you all post to it. As you all know, I've replaced my TVGOS with the competition, TiVo.

"Hoping it continues" is a big understatement.

Originally Posted by BOZOO

Wouldn't that be a big overstatement?

Originally Posted by JoeKustra

I light candles.

Originally Posted by BOZOO

I recently up-graded to a higher tier of programs through Comcast Cable. Sixteen of the new channels I was to receive did not appear on the TVGOS channel editor. I E'd Comcast and Rovi with a list of the missing. Rovi replied promptly, stating that all would appear in the editor within 3 days. To my suprize that happened. Most of the added channels even came with icons, even some new start-ups, except for Oprah. Given the rapid response and the new icons it seams that support is still strong for TV Guide. To further my point, I was told by Rovi that new icons were not programmable a few months back and that only CAP icon logos would be available. Not true, because many of my already existing all CAP logo icons have been replaced by real channel logos in the channel editor over those months. It doesn't feel like TVGOS will be discontinued soon given the excellent response I got from Rovi. Hope this helps you light more candles.

Has anyone noticed prices falling on TVGOS devices on eBay? I haven't.

CableCard on 7 devices in Northern CA all working great, Gregg

Originally Posted by JoeKustra

Any problems with cable TVGOS data?

Originally Posted by clb012

This has me stumped.

We recently got HD boxes from Rogers and it was set up from the technician this way.

(box) Cable from wall into cable in.
(box) Cable out into RF IN onto the Pan EH50
(EH50) Out to VCR
VCR out to TV

I unhooked all that put in a 2 out splitter from the wall and sending one output cable straight into the EH50's RF IN and sending the cable out into the VCR instead of the PanEH50. With the cable box - no option set on the TVGOS.

The Cable box and the Panasonic now don't pass through each other.

Yet no listings. It's got a host, host ID, VBI, but listings are "no listings" when it downloads the data now.

So I unhooked the cable box from the set up and just took the cable box's cable in and cable out and connected them together to remove the cable box from the equation. Waited over night and I got listings for day 1, 2 and 8.

Put back in the cable and cable out and now no listings again.

So I don't know, they're not connected to each other but something is still making the TVGOS not get data. The signal in the splitter is the only place the wires meet? Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Originally Posted by videobruce

acribb; Most stations don't reply to e-mails. You are better off calling their Engineering Dept. Don't bother talking to any one else since they won't have a clue what your talking about (what else is new?).
Can you receive the host OTA signal? If not, since the recorder has the capability, I would suggest doing so, if nothing else, for backup when your CATV service goes down.

There is the dedicated Sony DVR thread where 90% is TVGOS related (should of been merged here where it belongs) which you could try.

For the past week, I have emailed numerous people around the WJCT PBS station and have made about 20 phone calls thus far. **No one** returns my calls or emails.

Originally Posted by bwall23

............. P.S. Just want to say for those who bought into this technology early on, I know it wasn't free as I did the same. But it's old-tech and obsolete now. We were the pioneers that paid for it.

Originally Posted by bwall23

You get what you pay for.
Right now HDTV is available free OTA and on some cable co's as unencrypted Clear QAM.
Get a rooftop/attic/whatever antennae and enjoy it while it lasts (free, that is) b'cause it wont be long before you have to pay for it, no matter how it comes to you.

We're discussin' years old tech that is obsolete, so enjoy it while you got it, but nobody in CORP is listenin' to your yells about not gettin' it for FREE.

Rovi is making money elsewhere and is obviously not interested in keeping this technology going forward as there's NO PROFIT IN IT.

I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BOUGHT A PRODUCT RECENTLY (A NEW PRODUCT INTRODUCED IN 2011) THAT ADVERTISES IT HAS TVGOS???IF SO, WHAT IS IT, WHAT VERSION OF TVGOS DOES IT HAVE, HOW MANY DAYS OF PROGRAMMING, DOES IT WORK FOR YOU?

P.S. Just want to say for those who bought into this technology early on, I know it wasn't free as I did the same. But it's old-tech and obsolete now. We were the pioneers that paid for it.

Originally Posted by WS65711

Yeah, we hear you. But the problem is there is no device, NO DEVICE, currently available in the U.S. that is as slick as the DHG. And "old-tech and obsolete" or not, when friends come over they never cease to be amazed, and ALWAYS ask where they can buy one (DHG).

Yeah, we hear you. But the problem is there is no device, NO DEVICE, currently available in the U.S. that is as slick as the DHG. And "old-tech and obsolete" or not, when friends come over they never cease to be amazed, and ALWAYS ask where they can buy one (DHG).

Originally Posted by WS65711

Yeah, we hear you. But the problem is there is no device, NO DEVICE, currently available in the U.S. that is as slick as the DHG. And "old-tech and obsolete" or not, when friends come over they never cease to be amazed, and ALWAYS ask where they can buy one (DHG).

Originally Posted by JoeKustra

I doubt Funai will add HD to their 515H. No guide either.

Originally Posted by videobruce

Sammy with their LED driven DLP TV's and this.

Originally Posted by Rammitinski

The HD definitely won't ever happen. And I seriously doubt if it will ever get any kind of guide, either. For one thing, it's designed for the lower-end customer, and that would put it too up there. Their full intention is to keep it that way. It's the modern, albeit better, version of the VCR. That's it's niche, plain and simple.

The only thing comparable to the Sony these days is an HD Tivo with the lifetime fee. That can be had for under $600, which really isn't a bad deal at all, considering that the Sony DHG250 and DHG500 originally sold for $800 and $1000 respectively (and the hard drive in the TiVo can be user-upgraded).