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post #2641 of 2886
I just got 52xbr9. Software version ab0059pn.

Should I update it? If so, should I update it with the latest - aa0178pn?

It seems like 9 is better then 4 and 6, HD looks great, but two things I find Samsung (b750, b6000) is slightly better at -
SD channels - Sony is not bad, and 9 is a lot better then 4, but samsung is a little clearer - a little less pixelation on 480.
Auto Motion - this one is personal preference, I'm used to smooth setting on samsung and things like credits at the end of the movie are very smooth on samsung and jerky or jumpy (not sure what the right term is ) on every other set I checked, including plasmas. Is there a way to make it smooth on xbr9?


Thanks.
post #2642 of 2886
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Originally Posted by LeeM2 View Post

I just got 52xbr9. Software version ab0059pn.

Should I update it? If so, should I update it with the latest - aa0178pn?

It seems like 9 is better then 4 and 6, HD looks great, but two things I find Samsung (b750, b6000) is slightly better at -
SD channels - Sony is not bad, and 9 is a lot better then 4, but samsung is a little clearer - a little less pixelation on 480.
Auto Motion - this one is personal preference, I'm used to smooth setting on samsung and things like credits at the end of the movie are very smooth on samsung and jerky or jumpy (not sure what the right term is ) on every other set I checked, including plasmas. Is there a way to make it smooth on xbr9?


Thanks.

I would do the update. You will probably see more internet programming available once you do the update.

Did you try the 'Motionflow' setting.

I leave mine set on High, and I never noticed anything that is jerky/jumpy or 'not smooth'.

Gary
post #2643 of 2886
Motionflow is terrible. Turn it off.
post #2644 of 2886
After buying my XBR9 last spring, I followed that up with a FIOS installation. I have been reading various posts in places other than AVS Forum, which I fortunately just found.
What I was investigating was whether I could stream netflix directly to the XBR9 and whether the Sony wireless was worthwhile. There was lots of conflicting info. Fortunately I found this thread and I now believe my current strategy may work.
I am going to run a hard line from my router to the XBR9 (avoiding the wireless).
I just checked via speedtest.net and my download speed average is 18.76Mb/sec.
From what I've read, as long as the speed is sustainable, I should be able to stream HD and SD movies without problems. A fallback, if it didn't work, would be to purchase a blueray player that would network and act as a buffer. It's too bad I can't use the DVR in my FIOS box.
Seem okay?
post #2645 of 2886
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Originally Posted by BigDave52 View Post
After buying my XBR9 last spring, I followed that up with a FIOS installation. I have been reading various posts in places other than AVS Forum, which I fortunately just found.
What I was investigating was whether I could stream netflix directly to the XBR9 and whether the Sony wireless was worthwhile. There was lots of conflicting info. Fortunately I found this thread and I now believe my current strategy may work.
I am going to run a hard line from my router to the XBR9 (avoiding the wireless).
I just checked via speedtest.net and my download speed average is 18.76Mb/sec.
From what I've read, as long as the speed is sustainable, I should be able to stream HD and SD movies without problems. A fallback, if it didn't work, would be to purchase a blueray player that would network and act as a buffer. It's too bad I can't use the DVR in my FIOS box.
Seem okay?
To stream Netflix on the XBR9 you don't need that fast of a connection. I would say you can do it with 5mbps, but 10mbps is probably ideal. You said your average speed is 18.76mbps so you should be more than fine. Just keep in mind that on HD titles on the XBR9 sometimes there's a lot of rebuffering with Netflix and it's unclear what causes this.
post #2646 of 2886
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.
I'll need to check the manual, but I'm assuming once the TV is connected to the network, I'll be able to do any firmware updates to the TV.
Anyone know if there's any special setup required for the network to be detected and displayed?
post #2647 of 2886
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Originally Posted by BigDave52 View Post
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.
I'll need to check the manual, but I'm assuming once the TV is connected to the network, I'll be able to do any firmware updates to the TV.
Anyone know if there's any special setup required for the network to be detected and displayed?
No, nothing special. It's just wired ethernet which you can hook up directly to your router or through a wireless bridge. Just set it to DHCP and you'll be good to go. You can get firmware updates this way as well, although there really haven't been any updates recently. Given that this is a 2009 model and Sony is getting ready for the 2011 models, they really don't give the XBR9 much attention anymore.

Do try out the Netflix streaming (especially HD titles during primetime) and let us know how it goes.
post #2648 of 2886
i'm feeling behind the times with my xbr9.

i need a 3D tv so i can play killzone 3. ahhhh!
post #2649 of 2886
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Originally Posted by dh4645 View Post
i'm feeling behind the times with my xbr9.

i need a 3D tv so i can play killzone 3. ahhhh!
Ya my xbr9 looks like junk compared to my new nx810. The 3d gaming is pretty darn good, and I haven't been in to gaming in about 10 years.
post #2650 of 2886
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Originally Posted by chdwil View Post
Ya my xbr9 looks like junk compared to my new nx810. The 3d gaming is pretty darn good, and I haven't been in to gaming in about 10 years.
where do u live, can i come over and play killzone 3 on it after feb 22nd?
post #2651 of 2886
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Originally Posted by garnuts View Post

I would do the update. You will probably see more internet programming available once you do the update.

Did you try the 'Motionflow' setting.

I leave mine set on High, and I never noticed anything that is jerky/jumpy or 'not smooth'.

Gary

I downloaded a copy of motion test http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1240730 and I'm happy to report that CineMotion Auto1 together with MotionFlow High setting seem to address this issue. The circles are running very smooth now!
Now I need to figure out how to make sd channels look better.
post #2652 of 2886
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Originally Posted by LeeM2 View Post

I downloaded a copy of motion test http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1240730 and I'm happy to report that CineMotion Auto1 together with MotionFlow High setting seem to address this issue. The circles are running very smooth now!
Now I need to figure out how to make sd channels look better.

I'm glad you found a solution. I forgot about the CineMotion setting. I think I have mine set to Auto1 also.

I experimented with all the settings a lot the first few months I had the set, but haven't really changed anything for over a year now.

I hardly ever watch any SD channels anymore, so I can't help you there.

Gary
post #2653 of 2886
Quote:
Originally Posted by dh4645 View Post


where do u live, can i come over and play killzone 3 on it after feb 22nd?

Sure
post #2654 of 2886
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Originally Posted by chdwil View Post

Sure

u forgot to say where u live. hah
post #2655 of 2886
Hi guys,

I was wondering if someone can help me with a tiny problem. I have a 40" XBR-9 with a Scientific Atlanta 8300 HD-DVR. I use the remote that my cable company gave me.

I have the same setup with a 46" Sharp TV in my family room also. On the Sharp TV, I can switch between inputs by using my cable company's remote but the same remote won't let me do the switching between inputs on the Sony XBR-9. I have my DVD,etc connected to my XBR-9 but I am forced to change from cable to the DVD with the Sony remote.

Why is this happening? Is there a setting that I have to change either on the TV or with the cable company remote?

Thanks in advance for some advise.

Dogan
post #2656 of 2886
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Originally Posted by dodolom View Post

Hi guys,

I was wondering if someone can help me with a tiny problem. I have a 40" XBR-9 with a Scientific Atlanta 8300 HD-DVR. I use the remote that my cable company gave me.

I have the same setup with a 46" Sharp TV in my family room also. On the Sharp TV, I can switch between inputs by using my cable company's remote but the same remote won't let me do the switching between inputs on the Sony XBR-9. I have my DVD,etc connected to my XBR-9 but I am forced to change from cable to the DVD with the Sony remote.

Why is this happening? Is there a setting that I have to change either on the TV or with the cable company remote?

Thanks in advance for some advise.

Dogan

You need to change the code in the remote. Hold down setup until tv flashes twice. Press 9 9 1. Tv flashes again. Now press the power button then the Ch+ repeatedly until the tv turns on or off. Then hold down setup until the tv button flashes again. Viola.
post #2657 of 2886
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Originally Posted by chdwil View Post


You need to change the code in the remote. Hold down setup until tv flashes twice. Press 9 9 1. Tv flashes again. Now press the power button then the Ch+ repeatedly until the tv turns on or off. Then hold down setup until the tv button flashes again. Viola.

My TV was already setup that way but obviously it wasn't working. I tried your method once again and it was still not working. Then I went to the support site for the remote and.got the 4 digit code for the xbr9 and.that did the trick.
post #2658 of 2886
I think that remotes which use a single "input" code would not work. Logitech Harmony works.
post #2659 of 2886
I hear echoes in this thread. Anyone, anyone, anyone?

Anyhow I recently moved my 52xbr9 into my bedroom. In left the tv laying face down on the bed for several hours. After mounting the tv and turning it on I noticed right away that a cloud that was very pronounced along the bottom of the screen was gone.

I don't know if the pressure from the mattress and comforter pressing on the screen for an extended period helped it, or if it was because it was facing down.
post #2660 of 2886
Quote:
Originally Posted by chdwil View Post

I hear echoes in this thread. Anyone, anyone, anyone?

Anyhow I recently moved my 52xbr9 into my bedroom. In left the tv laying face down on the bed for several hours. After mounting the tv and turning it on I noticed right away that a cloud that was very pronounced along the bottom of the screen was gone.

I don't know if the pressure from the mattress and comforter pressing on the screen for an extended period helped it, or if it was because it was facing down.

Wow, very interesting. Did the cloud come back or is it still gone? I've always hated the clouding.
post #2661 of 2886
Quote:
Originally Posted by chdwil View Post

I hear echoes in this thread. Anyone, anyone, anyone?

Anyhow I recently moved my 52xbr9 into my bedroom. In left the tv laying face down on the bed for several hours. After mounting the tv and turning it on I noticed right away that a cloud that was very pronounced along the bottom of the screen was gone.

I don't know if the pressure from the mattress and comforter pressing on the screen for an extended period helped it, or if it was because it was facing down.

I've noticed that clouding, at least on my set, is influenced heavily by temperature and humidity. I have a very mild case of uneven brightness, which is much more noticeable in the summer months.

A_C
post #2662 of 2886
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Originally Posted by russr View Post


Wow, very interesting. Did the cloud come back or is it still gone? I've always hated the clouding.

Hasn't come back yet.
post #2663 of 2886
Did anyone stream Amazon HD via this TV recently? For the past several months whenever I purchase HD version to stream I get SD video feed (that is it starts as SD from the beginning) and stereo instead DD 5.1. It used to work correctly before. My internet connection is FIOS 15/5
post #2664 of 2886
Ok I just picked the 46" up with that crazy deal at sears. New in box for $479 +tax. I couldn't resist and I replaced my sammy LN40C650 in the bedroom. So far a way better PQ and just as good as my Sammy B750. I'm scanning this thread and have a question. The Samsung 240hz tv I can customize the motion flow, set the dejudder, etc. Can I do this with the Sony? All i see is High/Std/Off. So I'm assuming the High is 240, Std is 120hz? Thanks.
post #2665 of 2886
The TV is always refreshing at 240Hz, the different settings (High, standard, off) are to adjust the intensity of the 240Hz effect.
post #2666 of 2886
Hi all, I'm always late to the party but I am now a proud owner of a 42" and 55" XBR9. My first high end Sonys.

I just read the last 2/3 of this entire thread. took a long time but i wanted to understand these sets better.

I've got a bunch of questions, but for now, I just want to know:

Does anyone have their Sony wall mounted with less than the minimal allowable top clearance as stated in the manual, of 11.75"?

http://esupport.sony.com/referencebo...ngthetv04.html

Will this cause a problem for the Sony and even if not-- if I have an unrelated problem and Sony's onsite techs need to come out, has anyone heard of them using that as an excuse to void warranty? (would not be an option to easily remove from wall)

My last TV was a 32" Olevia Syntax (which I bought here from a fellow AVS user's classified in '05). The Olevia is wall mounted only 5" from the ceiling, and in fact has a board resting on it-- further blocking circulation and specifically forbidden by Sony. There have been no ill effects after 5 years. A Comcast STB has been sitting on this board, so the STB has only 1 inch clearance to the ceiling. No overheating.

If I mount the 42" XBR9 on this mount, I will only have 2.5" clearance to the ceiling.

Ceiling is about 8'. Temperature year round, on shelf, 5" from ceiling is 76F w/ Olevia off. Not sure with it Olevia on, I will take measurements later.

42" XBR9 draws 240W
32" Olevia draws 145W

Also, unrelated, can anyone recommend any high quality counterbalanced mount arms for the 52"? One that tilts freely in all directions, including adjustable height?
post #2667 of 2886
whats the consensus on buying either a sears or a 3rd party extended warranty for a new 46 and 55"?

i paid with amex, so i get 1 extra year already. i plan to have these at least 5-7 years.

i was wondering about a warranty that gave me full replacement value for whatever high end set exists when/if it breaks.

was considering squaretrade also or mack, but after reading some of the fine print from this review, not so sure...

www. plasma tv buying guide .com/hdtv/warranty-reviews-squaretrade.html

www. plasma tv buying guide .com/hdtv/warranty-reviews-mack.html
post #2668 of 2886
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Originally Posted by kindhacker View Post

whats the consensus on buying either a sears or a 3rd party extended warranty for a new 46 and 55"?

i paid with amex, so i get 1 extra year already. i plan to have these at least 5-7 years.

i was wondering about a warranty that gave me full replacement value for whatever high end set exists when/if it breaks.

was considering squaretrade also or mack, but after reading some of the fine print from this review, not so sure...

www. plasma tv buying guide .com/hdtv/warranty-reviews-squaretrade.html

www. plasma tv buying guide .com/hdtv/warranty-reviews-mack.html

It all depends on how much you paid for the TV's.
post #2669 of 2886
hi chdwil,

i plan to try your tweaks to the settings.

emotionally yes i originally thought it matters how much the initial investment is, but my further thinking deems it less important.

if i was given them as gifts or got them for $1 each, but knew i cannot afford to replace such high end sets in the future when they break, i would want a full replacement warranty.

i can get a squaretrade 3yr warranty for 52"/46" ~ $160 / $120. possibly $198/$150 for a 4 year.

have to really get into the nitty gritty of the legalese behind squaretrade vs mack

i found this relevant thread i will read, haven't looked for others

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1027267
post #2670 of 2886
Quote:
Originally Posted by kindhacker View Post

whats the consensus on buying either a sears or a 3rd party extended warranty for a new 46 and 55"?

i paid with amex, so i get 1 extra year already. i plan to have these at least 5-7 years.

i was wondering about a warranty that gave me full replacement value for whatever high end set exists when/if it breaks.

was considering squaretrade also or mack, but after reading some of the fine print from this review, not so sure...

www. plasma tv buying guide .com/hdtv/warranty-reviews-squaretrade.html

www. plasma tv buying guide .com/hdtv/warranty-reviews-mack.html

Don't bother with it... 3rd party warranty companies are notorious for going out of business and/or not honoring their obligations.

If you adopt a policy, as I do, of never buying any of these extended warranties; over time, even if you have to shell out for a repair or two, you’ll still be well ahead of the game financially.

A_C
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