BD370/390 LG Blu-ray player Master/Owners thread - Page 18

Originally Posted by captpjd

Picked up the 390 yesterday, was on sale at BB and i even got 10% off due to a hole in the box(LOL)--so after bringing it home was no problem hooking up, basic hookup( HDMI cable to TV)--setup wireless hookup using wep128 security, entered passphrase(not case senestive) and no problem, Went to my Netflix account found the 390 and got Netflix's password, entered it and good to go, Youtube came up with their basic selections, you Can enter your name and password to get to your account and see your favorites. Installed Nero Mediahome on computer, accessing it from 390 was no problem, you might need to streamline your shared files on computer. To my surprise, the 390 played all my AVI files, found and played my jpeg files and found and displayed very nicely all my 800+ albums(it took about 45 minutes to index the music). Sonmething else I found to my great surprise is that my Xbox 360 can use the Nero Server to play the AVI's and most of my jpeg files(depending on size). So if your xbox and the 390 are in different parts of the home this is very usefull. It didn't play the mps through the nero server or I just didn't give it time to index all the songs(over 8000). Oh yea, the Blu Ray disc look exceptional, LOL
I very pleased---my Network is growing up'

PS-there was a firmware update it took care of automatically
Windows Xp
Samsung 50in 720p plasma
Wireless Netgear 110 extended range Router

Originally Posted by Sound & Vision

You obviously havn't played or own any SD (Standard Definition) movies that have that feature. The angle icon and other on-screen messages (Play, FF, Rew, Pause, Zoom, etc, icons) cannot be turned off on the 390. If you do own a SD movie with an alternate angle and the icon has not popped up during the movie (where the alternate angle comes into play) than you have a defective player. Please list the so called 8-9 SD movies that you say you own, and have played THAT HAVE an alternate angle. I am willing to bet that none of the SD movies that you have played had an alternate angle and that's why you havn't seen the icon pop up! ...

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Originally Posted by Sound & Vision

You obviously havn't played or own any SD (Standard Definition) movies that have that feature. The angle icon and other on-screen messages (Play, FF, Rew, Pause, Zoom, etc, icons) cannot be turned off on the 390. If you do own a SD movie with an alternate angle and the icon has not popped up during the movie (where the alternate angle comes into play) than you have a defective player. Please list the so called 8-9 SD movies that you say you own, and have played THAT HAVE an alternate angle. I am willing to bet that none of the SD movies that you have played had an alternate angle and that's why you havn't seen the icon pop up!

I have tested the 390 with the SD "Special Edition" of James Bond "Tomorrow Never Dies", and have CONFIRMED that the angle icon pops up throught the whole movie during the scenes when alterate angle #2 is available to display a storyboard concept option ontop of the original video.

Just about every SD/BD player these days offers a way to turn off either "On Screen Messages" or "Angle Icon" togeather or by themselfs. The 390 offers neither. Watching a SD movie with an alternate angle is a PITA with the 390, because the angle icon keeps popping up during the movie. This is very distracting. I also experianced "brief" combing artifacts on scenes that the 390's de-interlacer could not handle (like bad edits). Just play "The Making Of The Big Lobowski", from the older SD/DVD of The Big Lobowski. This is the older Special Edition DVD that came in a yellow box cover. You can see combing in the begining scene of this documentry when john goodman throws his hand up in a clip of him in the parking lot.

This player is no way close to being as good as you keep claiming it to be. The slide out draw is so cheap that it is barley hanging on. I ask that anyone (who does not believe me) go out to there local Best Buy store, plug in the demo and open the draw to see this for themselves. The up and down movement is not of solid build quality!

I will say this though for the 390, if the above problems are of no concern to you... It does have a great zoom, lots of picture tweaking options, and runs a noticably "hotter" picture (which can be very mis-leading) in that one will think there seeing a better picture when doing player comparisons. It also allows for you tube and other online features, and i found that the wireless firmware update worked well. Due to the above mentioned lack of a way to disable the "on screen messages" & "angle icon", i ended up returning mine.

Originally Posted by hifi59

I never stated that I watched 8-9 movies WITH angle icons only that I watched 8-9 movies and up to that point didn't see any angle icons. Having said that, I finally saw the icons watching Star Trek season 1. They appear for 1-2 seconds and then go away. You are correct in that they cannot be turned off like my Pioneer allows me. If I am watching a movie that I am really into and the icon appeared, I would not be happy. I hope this is fixable with a fw update. I also do not like the non dimmable display. Surprisingly though, it does not bother me with my nite time viewing like my Pioneer o5 lites bother me (dimmable).

The drawer is somewhat flimsy however i never feel like it is going to break if I push it closed. They all have plastic gears anyway. By the time the drawer breaks, the player will be ancient (in home theater years).

I have been comparing picture quality for days and days now. /my wife is about to strangle mw. I calibrated both pllayers with the blu-ray DVE disk annd the Avia II disk. (the default setting are correct for the LG btw. Color had to go up a notch though). Images viewed on Umr calibrated Elite 151 at 9ft away in a darkened environment

For SD, the LG has the best image I have yet seen. I even compared it to the reon based Toshiba XA2 that I have. It bests both players. I don't care what anyone has to say about this. I gave up many many hours of life to confirm this and I stand by my observations. It truly looks closer to blu-ray quality than anything else I have see.(its not though of course.) You can actually see detail in distant shots (no extra noise in image either)whereas on most players these shots are lacking in detail and sheen,for lack of a better word. If you want to call this ""running hot"..ok). All I know is that it looks fantastic. No added noise,no jaggies no black crush, no blown out whites, accurate color,etc.
Blu-ray quality is much closer though. I give the nod to the LG though for slightly less perceived noise and a bit more "sheen" to the image.

As I type this,my son in law just walked in and noticed how 3d and crisp the picture looked and he has seen this movie at my house before (Kingdom of Heaven). The LG will also start a disc (sd and most bd discs) from where it left off once you re-insert it. My Pioneer does not do this.

So while this player is not perfect, it is more so where it counts and thats image quality. Even the throw in crap works well (netflix,youtube). The wireless connected without issue. most everything with this player has been flawless except where noted above and hopefully that will be addressed in the near future.

All of the above is MY opinion of course.

Originally Posted by mymythos

Thank you for your post, Sound & Vision. You mentioned that the problem occurs with SD/DVD, but what about BDs?

Originally Posted by mymythos

Thank you for your post, Sound & Vision. You mentioned that the problem occurs with SD/DVD, but what about BDs?

Originally Posted by hifi59

(the default setting are correct for the LG btw. Color had to go up a notch though). Images viewed on Umr calibrated Elite 151 at 9ft away in a darkened environment


What exactly do you mean by default settings I plan to calibrate mine more also and I figure you already did most of the work.

Question:

1.
Are you talked when you open the sliding door on the remote and change the Picture your are using the standard factory settings
OR
Are you using the Custom Settings with NOTHING changed?

2.
You also mentioned you change the color?
Did you change the Color on the Blue Ray Player or the TV? If on the Blue Ray what is the new settings?

3.
Does you TV support 24hz or does it change it back to 60hz like mine does. Are you keeping it in 24hz mode?

Originally Posted by robertc88

Hifi59,

Didn't want to quote your whole post.

After getting a look see at this player yesterday at a friend's house who bought it and seeing the PQ, I went to Best Buy and got one myself shortly thereafter. BD playback is excellent if not truly outstanding. I've tried a decent number of players in the last month or so and I will not say they didn't yield very good PQ results for BD but this player has me very very impressed. Now it very well may be synergy between the display and player which I think important. Some of the better player recommendations I've tried I felt I needed to do some adjustments within the video settings. Not so far for the BDs I tried using this player.

It is only one day spent and to say it is "the best" for BD playback I've seen so far would be outlandish but it doesn't seem to matter which very good quality BDs (4.5 and 5.0 rated) I've thrown in the player as the results are excellent. Short of those discs, Master And Commander is rated 4.0 by and large and it looks that much better with this player which really makes me pleased. Now the player it isn't going to turn it into a reference disc but I daresay I would bump the score up .25 or even .50 during some parts of the movie. If the Oppo is truly that much better than this for BD then I really need to see it but it does cost that much more.

Again, I'm very very impressed to say the least at this point but it is only an initial impression. Now again it isn't to say I haven't seen very good results with other players as I stated but there have been some other issues turning me away from those, (Pioneer 320, Panny BD60 and Sony S360).

Time will tell though. Flat out BD playback PQ is tremendous to this point. Most want the player problem free besides though and I know of the lip synch issue reading posts (it doesn't seem as distracting using thr player's analog out connection to my Onkyo AVR is my experience) and the list is long for players having some sort of issue. Waiting for a FW upgrade, we all know how that works though some manufacturer's are better than others.

I'll will try SD playback more soon as we did try CTHD Superbit already yesterday and results were quite good as well at least for that one.

Originally Posted by rotarydoc

Hi all,

I'm new to the forum so bear with me please!

I just got my new BD 390....and set everything up, which was very easy, using HDMI, and ethernet connections.

All seemed fine, until I watched the first DVD...and noticed right away that the audio and video are out of sync....not terrible, but very noticable.

I tried everything I could think of in audio settings, to no avail...then, I completely took the sound system (an Onkyo TX SR-304) out of the loop, hooked the BD 390 directly to the TV set (Sony KDL-52W4100), and still the same issue. I even tried both HDMI and component connections to the TV itself, with no improvement. The Toshiba HD-A1 which this is replacing, has been fine, with no issues with this setup.

I might add that the audio lags slightly behind the video...just enough that you can't possibly miss or ignore it...does this regardless of standard DVD, Blu Ray, Netflix or You Tube.

Has anyone seen or heard any issues on this? I'm very inclined to believe that it's in the unit itself, a defect, but I figured I'd post here, if anyone knows, it will be you guys!

I have not yet contacted LG's help line yet, too late for that tonight. The player did do one firmware update so far, but it did not seem to address the issue...

Thank you very much in advance!!

Glenn

Originally Posted by rotarydoc

Update on the lip sync issue with my BD-390....took it back to Best Buy today for an even exchange for another brand new 390....got it home, hooked everything up, it wanted a firmware update, I performed it...and still have the exact same lip sync issue.

So, I don't think it's just me, I also read a review today of another 390 with the same exact issue, the guy described it to a "T"...

So, I guess I have about 30 days on Best Buy's return policy to decide whether to gamble on a firmware update, or risk having to live with it for a long time.

I trust you're opinions, and think that you are correct, a firmware update seems likely.

Any idea on how long something like that takes, or any way to check the progress?

Would it help to call or email LG again, and ask/tell them about the issue with two different, brand new 390's?

I love the player other than that, was playing around with You Tube, it works very well! I also streamed a movie from Netflix last night, again, very cool...and the Blu Ray picture is great as well as the up converting of standard DVD's.

I was giving some thought to returning this 390 for a 370, to see if the 370 also had the lip sync issue, but I think that would be a step down...I would feel as though the video was not as good, since some reviews are written to that effect....that the 370 just does not have the same video performance as it's "big brother"....

At any rate, I'll keep you posted, and I really appreciate the input!! Good to know I'm not the only one, and that it's very possible, and even likely that a firmware upgrade is in the works...

Thanks!

Glenn

Originally Posted by ScottChez


1.std fsctory settings

2.I only had to increase color on the LG from 25 to 27

3.24hz all the way

Originally Posted by darkhammer1000

So has anyone got any 370/390 Video quality comparisons yet?????????????.

Originally Posted by rotarydoc

Hmmm,

Interesting....seems like it's not all of them that are affected...

I guess it's the luck of the draw, or the lack thereof...

Thanks for posting that, if yours is OK on HDMI, then there is not much point in me trying much of anything else....I mean it SHOULD work fine with HDMI, that is how it is recommended to be hooked up...

The only other thing I could think of is to try it on another TV....I have a Sharp Aquos 42 inch LCD that I could try.....

Maybe when I get some time....

Glenn