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post #10321 of 39280
I got my E-MAIL today and paid for the unit. I will be going to my local FRYS to pick up some more DVDA and SACD disc.

One question I have the Pioneer SC-05 and wondered what is the best settings for the BDP-83 and the POA SC-05
post #10322 of 39280
Speaking of handshake issue like audio drop out can Instaport Technology solve (or reduce) them ?
post #10323 of 39280
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Depends on what format you're playing. In the case of Dolby THD and DTS-MA, there's really nothing to do except unpack the compressed PCM into "normal" PCM. In the case of DVD-A MLP audio, same thing. In the case of all other lossy formats, it's decoding based on the specific format's spec. The only real difference is usually seen in the levels of the audio as it's played by your AVR. PCM may or may not have slightly lower levels, depending on your AVR. But no difference in quality. That said, if your AVR can decode all the various flavors, might as well let it.

Well as I said, I want to let it, but the bitstream does have a slight touch of an audio delay, very very slight, to which furthering audio delay wouldn't serve me very well at all. I'll have to fool around with it.

Thanks to everyone else who said that LPCM should be just fine.

Question though, why would I notice a very very slight touch of the video being a hair ahead of the audio in bitstreaming? My Onkyo 605 handles the proper HD-audio formats, so what's the deal?
post #10324 of 39280
So I just received my BDP-83 today and I have an issue already Does anyone here have a Pioneer VSX-94TXH receiver? I am running HDMI to the receiver and I can not get sound or picture. If I run it straight HDMI to the TV it works just fine so it is not a cable issue. PS3 plays just fine through HDMI on the receiver also. I have tried switching inputs and every other option I can think of with no results. I would run HDMI to the TV and optical to the receiver but then I cant use DOLBY or DTS HD audio. I have this issue with the Xbox 360 also but I worked around that by running HDMI to the TV and optical to the receiver. I can live with the 360 like that but not the OPPO. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Sorry if I should be in another forum but i thought maybe someone here might have the same reciever and was wondering if they might be having the same issue.
post #10325 of 39280
Can the Oppo convert the 5.1 HD codecs to 7.1 (like Dolby Pro Logic IIx) and output to the analogue outputs? My processor does not have HDMI inputs and just passes through the 7.1 analogue inputs and most blu-ray movies only have 5.1 hi res codecs.

Thanks
post #10326 of 39280
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Originally Posted by REShaman View Post

Opening the box revealed the nicest (next to Apple) presentation I have yet to receive. BDP-83 in black bag surrounded and protected with thick black dense foam. Nestled next to the BDP83 was an elegant (I know it's only a box) black box with silver letters.

i'm glad to know i'm not the only one who picked up on the packaging... the black box was a VERY nice touch... that was a real good idea by whoever had it...
post #10327 of 39280
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Originally Posted by mzupeman View Post

Well as I said, I want to let it, but the bitstream does have a slight touch of an audio delay, very very slight, to which furthering audio delay wouldn't serve me very well at all. I'll have to fool around with it.

Thanks to everyone else who said that LPCM should be just fine.

Question though, why would I notice a very very slight touch of the video being a hair ahead of the audio in bitstreaming? My Onkyo 605 handles the proper HD-audio formats, so what's the deal?

I had to calibrate my friend's Onkyo 705 as it was out of synch with the cable box. I think the default value on the Onkyo is at fault.
post #10328 of 39280
Yeah, they put a 20ms delay on, but I've already adjusted them to 0.
post #10329 of 39280
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Originally Posted by steve0742003 View Post

So I just received my BDP-83 today and I have an issue already Does anyone here have a Pioneer VSX-94TXH receiver? I am running HDMI to the receiver and I can not get sound or picture. If I run it straight HDMI to the TV it works just fine so it is not a cable issue. PS3 plays just fine through HDMI on the receiver also. I have tried switching inputs and every other option I can think of with no results. I would run HDMI to the TV and optical to the receiver but then I cant use DOLBY or DTS HD audio. I have this issue with the Xbox 360 also but I worked around that by running HDMI to the TV and optical to the receiver. I can live with the 360 like that but not the OPPO. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Sorry if I should be in another forum but i thought maybe someone here might have the same reciever and was wondering if they might be having the same issue.

The HDMI setting for that input on the AVR should be "AMP" to allow processing of the audio and passing the video to the display.
post #10330 of 39280
just got my invite to buy today signed up march 2.question will the oppo show video and audio bitrate when you hit info button?
post #10331 of 39280
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Originally Posted by humble_t View Post

Got on the the interest list early April. Ordered on 5/06 eagerly awaiting my drive down to Mountain View to pick it up!

Wow, and I thought they were only covering list entries through the end of March! Having signed up on April 27, maybe I'll get an invite by the originally proposed public launch date (May 18).
post #10332 of 39280
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Originally Posted by electronics craz View Post

just got my invite to buy today signed up march 2.question will the oppo show video and audio bitrate when you hit info button?

It shows a combined audio/video bit rate.

This is in the FAQ: Is there a bit-rate meter?

-Bill
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Has anyone tried hooking up a BDP-83 to an HDFury or HDFury2?

I have a component only 1080i mits and I'm considering using one of these converters for two reasons:
1. So that I can watch upconverted standard def dvds at 1080i. (commercial ones with copy protection anyway)
2. So that I can enjoy a slightly better picture for bluray discs.

#2 is debatable I guess, so I'd like to hear from others. After all, since the HDFury is converting the HDMI back to component, why should the picture look any better than if I simply used the component outs on the Oppo for watching bluray? What I've heard is that most bluray devices just don't have as good a picture from component not just because of the nature of component vs. hdmi, but because manufacturers cheap out on the parts etc. for the component output vs. the HDMI. So using HDMI and converting it back to component still ends up looking better than straight component. I'll buy that I guess, but I haven't heard anyone try it on the Oppo bluray yet. And with all of the great things I've heard about the BDP-83, maybe the HDFury add-on would be a waste of money.
(Upconversion on copy protected standard def DVD would be nice, but not enough to make me buy it) (as a side note, do we think there will eventually be firmware to allow this? or is that a verboten topic like region unlocking? Asking because my Oppo 970 has firmware that allows 1080i upconvert...)

Also, the HDFury2 requires an external power supply for certain devices. Wondering if the Oppo is one of these. Apparently the HDMI on most bluray players do not supply enough power for the device (under 500mA?), whereas the Xbox360 and PS3 have something like 1000mA HDMIs, meaning you don't need to use external power.

To add one more wrinkle, it seems like 1080p requires more power to the HDFury2 than 1080i, so it's possible the Oppo can power it just fine at 1080i, but not at 1080p - and for the record I don't need 1080p).

Anyone have any idea what the BDP-83s HDMI out is rated at? I couldn't find it in the manual, but maybe I missed it. Also would love to figure out if my Denon 3808 has enough power out of its HDMI port...
post #10334 of 39280
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Originally Posted by tonyve View Post

Has anyone determined if a particular order of powering up the Oppo, an AVR and a 1080p hi-res TV has any effect on minimizing "handshake" issues. And/or does a time delay between components have any effect on "handshake" issues?

While I haven't hooked up my Oppo yet, just between my AVR and TV I have to turn the TV on first, select the Receiver input (versus coax), then turn on the AVR. If I try to change inputs on the TV afterwards the picture turns either red, blue, or green. You can see the image clearly but it's all tinted one shade.
post #10335 of 39280
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

It shows a combined audio/video bit rate.

This is in the FAQ: Is there a bit-rate meter?

-Bill

I really hope Oppo gets enough feedback to provide this to be broken out in a future firmware update.
post #10336 of 39280
Fed Ex delivered a very special package today. Set up was easier than any player I've ever had. First up, some Brain Salad Surgery DVD-A. It was flawless and sounded great. Second came Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture on SACD. Again, awe inspiring stuff. Third, Bolt on Blu-ray. Not as big a difference from the 2930ci as one might expect, but then that player was superb. Still, the 83 was fabulous.
I am extremely happy. So glad to finally have this player. Bravo Oppo.
I want to thank all the EAPers who helped Oppo get this right, but especially the beta testers who have been at this for forever. Neuromancer is THE MAN.
My biggest applause goes to Oppo for bringing us a wonderful player at a price even "I" can afford. Thanks guys.
post #10337 of 39280
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by vancouver View Post

I really hope Oppo gets enough feedback to provide this to be broken out in a future firmware update.

Has been requested since the start of the Beta Testing. And as a part of the First Post, they are well aware of this feature request. The OSD was not really designed to show separated bit rates, which is why current bit rates are combined.
post #10338 of 39280
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by DennyH View Post

I am extremely happy. So glad to finally have this player. Bravo Oppo.
I want to thank all the EAPers who helped Oppo get this right, but especially the beta testers who have been at this for forever. Neuromancer is THE MAN.

I am glad to hear that the BDP-83 is meeting your expectations, especially since we delayed the player by at least 5 months.
post #10339 of 39280
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Originally Posted by steve0742003 View Post

So I just received my BDP-83 today and I have an issue already Does anyone here have a Pioneer VSX-94TXH receiver? I am running HDMI to the receiver and I can not get sound or picture. If I run it straight HDMI to the TV it works just fine so it is not a cable issue. PS3 plays just fine through HDMI on the receiver also. I have tried switching inputs and every other option I can think of with no results. I would run HDMI to the TV and optical to the receiver but then I cant use DOLBY or DTS HD audio. I have this issue with the Xbox 360 also but I worked around that by running HDMI to the TV and optical to the receiver. I can live with the 360 like that but not the OPPO. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Sorry if I should be in another forum but i thought maybe someone here might have the same reciever and was wondering if they might be having the same issue.

My experience with a Pioneer 1015 and SC-05 is that audio and video need to be assigned in the set-up menu.

I think that if you already know what to do that it's a straight forward process. However, I seem to have to fiddle around alot. But, I've gotten it to work eventually.

Good luck
post #10340 of 39280
My recommendation is that all of you put down your OPPO remotes and get down to your local IMAX to see Star Trek...
post #10341 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by steve0742003 View Post

So I just received my BDP-83 today and I have an issue already Does anyone here have a Pioneer VSX-94TXH receiver? I am running HDMI to the receiver and I can not get sound or picture. If I run it straight HDMI to the TV it works just fine so it is not a cable issue. PS3 plays just fine through HDMI on the receiver also. I have tried switching inputs and every other option I can think of with no results. I would run HDMI to the TV and optical to the receiver but then I cant use DOLBY or DTS HD audio. I have this issue with the Xbox 360 also but I worked around that by running HDMI to the TV and optical to the receiver. I can live with the 360 like that but not the OPPO. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Sorry if I should be in another forum but i thought maybe someone here might have the same reciever and was wondering if they might be having the same issue.

I have the 94TXH and am waiting to pickup my 83, so I can't answer from hands on, but I might suggest to make sure you've gone in the Pioneer menu and made sure you've assigned the input proper.
post #10342 of 39280
It also seems the Angle Marker Off function doesn't work exactly the way as described. I notice watching Star Trek Season 1 on Blu-ray, that whenever the alternate 'angle' comes up whenever there's one of the new special effects shots, the angle marker still shows up, but for like, two seconds as opposed to staying up throughout the length of the angle shot. Very distracting.
post #10343 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Jon SS View Post

Can the Oppo convert the 5.1 HD codecs to 7.1 (like Dolby Pro Logic IIx) and output to the analogue outputs? My processor does not have HDMI inputs and just passes through the 7.1 analogue inputs and most blu-ray movies only have 5.1 hi res codecs.

Thanks

No. The player has PLII, to expand other codecs to 5.1, but not PLIIx... unfortunately.
post #10344 of 39280
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Originally Posted by mzupeman View Post

It also seems the Angle Marker Off function doesn't work exactly the way as described. I notice watching Star Trek Season 1 on Blu-ray, that whenever the alternate 'angle' comes up whenever there's one of the new special effects shots, the angle marker still shows up, but for like, two seconds as opposed to staying up throughout the length of the angle shot. Very distracting.

It's a bug with Star Trek. OPPO's working on it.
post #10345 of 39280
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Originally Posted by JaredB View Post

Has anyone tried hooking up a BDP-83 to an HDFury or HDFury2?

I have a component only 1080i mits and I'm considering using one of these converters for two reasons:
1. So that I can watch upconverted standard def dvds at 1080i. (commercial ones with copy protection anyway)
2. So that I can enjoy a slightly better picture for bluray discs.

#2 is debatable I guess, so I'd like to hear from others. After all, since the HDFury is converting the HDMI back to component, why should the picture look any better than if I simply used the component outs on the Oppo for watching bluray? What I've heard is that most bluray devices just don't have as good a picture from component not just because of the nature of component vs. hdmi, but because manufacturers cheap out on the parts etc. for the component output vs. the HDMI. So using HDMI and converting it back to component still ends up looking better than straight component. I'll buy that I guess, but I haven't heard anyone try it on the Oppo bluray yet. And with all of the great things I've heard about the BDP-83, maybe the HDFury add-on would be a waste of money.
(Upconversion on copy protected standard def DVD would be nice, but not enough to make me buy it) (as a side note, do we think there will eventually be firmware to allow this? or is that a verboten topic like region unlocking? Asking because my Oppo 970 has firmware that allows 1080i upconvert...)

Also, the HDFury2 requires an external power supply for certain devices. Wondering if the Oppo is one of these. Apparently the HDMI on most bluray players do not supply enough power for the device (under 500mA?), whereas the Xbox360 and PS3 have something like 1000mA HDMIs, meaning you don't need to use external power.

To add one more wrinkle, it seems like 1080p requires more power to the HDFury2 than 1080i, so it's possible the Oppo can power it just fine at 1080i, but not at 1080p - and for the record I don't need 1080p).

Anyone have any idea what the BDP-83s HDMI out is rated at? I couldn't find it in the manual, but maybe I missed it. Also would love to figure out if my Denon 3808 has enough power out of its HDMI port...

I don't know all the answers to your questions, but will say this...
If you are going to be useing the BDP-83, then one of the biggest reasons to use something like the HDF2, is that the VRS processing chip form Anchor Bay is not applicable to the component output section, only the HDMI output. Useing the component out of the player as your primary output, truncates the player to sub-par status IMO.
post #10346 of 39280
Other than that, I'm really happy with the player. I think the bitstream thing I was discussing earlier might be a slight issue with the Onkyo 605, as there was a firmware update for it, but it's one you can only acqure by sending your reciever to them in the mail. It's really no biggy. The LPCM sounds fantastic. I was using PCM on my PS3 all along anyhow. What I wanted was a Blu-ray player that upscaled DVD's fantastically, played Blu-rays on the same machine, and allowed me to function everything with my all in one Harmony remote. I wanted the best, and after some future firmware updates to make this player even better, I have no doubt that's exactly what I got. w00t!

If anybody has an Onkyo 605 though, please tell me what settings you're using in your Onkyo menu setups to get a video and audio presentation that's not out of sync. Perhaps it's a setup thing for me, but I doubt it.
post #10347 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by JaredB View Post

Has anyone tried hooking up a BDP-83 to an HDFury or HDFury2?

I have a component only 1080i mits and I'm considering using one of these converters for two reasons:
1. So that I can watch upconverted standard def dvds at 1080i. (commercial ones with copy protection anyway)
2. So that I can enjoy a slightly better picture for bluray discs.

#2 is debatable I guess, so I'd like to hear from others. After all, since the HDFury is converting the HDMI back to component, why should the picture look any better than if I simply used the component outs on the Oppo for watching bluray? What I've heard is that most bluray devices just don't have as good a picture from component not just because of the nature of component vs. hdmi, but because manufacturers cheap out on the parts etc. for the component output vs. the HDMI. So using HDMI and converting it back to component still ends up looking better than straight component. I'll buy that I guess, but I haven't heard anyone try it on the Oppo bluray yet. And with all of the great things I've heard about the BDP-83, maybe the HDFury add-on would be a waste of money.
(Upconversion on copy protected standard def DVD would be nice, but not enough to make me buy it) (as a side note, do we think there will eventually be firmware to allow this? or is that a verboten topic like region unlocking? Asking because my Oppo 970 has firmware that allows 1080i upconvert...)

Also, the HDFury2 requires an external power supply for certain devices. Wondering if the Oppo is one of these. Apparently the HDMI on most bluray players do not supply enough power for the device (under 500mA?), whereas the Xbox360 and PS3 have something like 1000mA HDMIs, meaning you don't need to use external power.

To add one more wrinkle, it seems like 1080p requires more power to the HDFury2 than 1080i, so it's possible the Oppo can power it just fine at 1080i, but not at 1080p - and for the record I don't need 1080p).

Anyone have any idea what the BDP-83s HDMI out is rated at? I couldn't find it in the manual, but maybe I missed it. Also would love to figure out if my Denon 3808 has enough power out of its HDMI port...

Well, I have a Yamaha 3900 and a component only Mits TV. I was going to use multi-channel analog out from the Oppo. But after reading about all of the issues regarding bass management and the analog outputs I decided to look into the HDFury2. I will not be connecting the HDFury2 to the Oppo. I will connect the Oppo to the 3900 using HDMI (and also change my DirecTV connection to HDMI). Then from the HDMI out of the receiver use the HDFury2 to convert that output to component and from there to the TV. Then I can take advantage of all of the audio codecs, DVD upconversion and also reduce the wires in my rack.

I have the HDFury2, just got the Oppo today and am waiting on a RCA coupler to connect the HDFury2 RCA males to the RCA males on my 15 ft. component cable. The HDFury2 is currently on sale at www.curtpalme.com. It comes with the power adapter.
post #10348 of 39280
Got home yesterday to find the BDP-83 sitting on the doorstep. Got it hooked up and went through the nice "easy setup" feature which went well. In fact, this is one spectacular player. It is everthing and more of what I expected from Oppo. The packaging exceeded their normal high level and I certainly didn't expect to find a calibration disk included. Highly recommended!
post #10349 of 39280
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Originally Posted by jimsfield View Post

Do you mind posting a link?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1125050
post #10350 of 39280
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Originally Posted by hdtvluvr View Post

Well, I have a Yamaha 3900 and a component only Mits TV. I was going to use multi-channel analog out from the Oppo. But after reading about all of the issues regarding bass management and the analog outputs I decided to look into the HDFury2. I will not be connecting the HDFury2 to the Oppo. I will connect the Oppo to the 3900 using HDMI (and also change my DirecTV connection to HDMI). Then from the HDMI out of the receiver use the HDFury2 to convert that output to component and from there to the TV. Then I can take advantage of all of the audio codecs, DVD upconversion and also reduce the wires in my rack.

I have the HDFury2, just got the Oppo today and am waiting on a RCA coupler to connect the HDFury2 RCA males to the RCA males on my 15 ft. component cable. The HDFury2 is currently on sale at www.curtpalme.com. It comes with the power adapter.

Yes, but you can buy it elsewhere for $50 less - without a power adapter, hence my questions about HDMI power.

I'd love to hear what you think of the HDFury2 in your system once you get it hooked up. I'd like to know if you see a noticeable difference between the HDFury2 and component straight out of the Oppo. It sounds like you should... but I guess we'll know for sure soon enough.
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