Official OPPO BDP-83 Owner's Thread [technical talk only] - Page 364

Also see the FAQ: Do the remote codes conflict with those for older OPPO players?

-Bill

Thanks Bob. Sorry, I have several other NJ DVDs but that one is not in my collection. Would have played it to give you my feedback. However, coincidentally someone has already succeeded in doing that.

I have seen that message (Root Menu) which is fortunately followed by the menu. Sorry for your problems. This may be obvious, but have you checked the playing surface of the DVD. And cleaned it? Even new out of the case, I have found that helps. Or the disc is defective (i.e., bad pressing). Just attempting to be thoughtful.
Best,
Richard

Sorry, I mean just "scrolling" Just plugged in again and still scrolling.. Everything is at default and played well thru my oppo supplied HDMI cable to my 1080i sony TV last night .I will now try unplugging my HDMI cable and power and try again. I did try the P/N button to no avail. Worked well last night everytime. My fat fingers just hit the off button insted of the volume button that caused this issue.

Hi,

I'm trying to copy a CD to minidisc. Normally, as long as the minidisc recorder is on digital-in it delineates each track on the CD and the track # increases. While trying to do this on the OPPO, all I get is 1 long track 1 as though I was doing an analog copy. Should I change the audio out from compatible to advanced?

I'm not familiar with your process, but I'm sure the audio setup in the Wizard will not change the behvior.

-Bill

Thank-you wmmclain. I re-trid the P/N button which did fix my scrolling problem.

I don't know why turning it off would cause this.

Connect the composite cable and switch to that input. This will at least allow you to see the setup screens. Do a reset to factory default and see if that helps the HDMI output.

-Bill

Ok, great! Somehow your player was sending 50hz (PAL) instead of the 60hz (NTSC) which is standard in North America, and your display didn't like it. Cycling with the P/N button got you back to NTSC.

There is also a setup menu item for this, but according to the manual the remote button setting is saved, so you should be ok.

-Bill

What are you talking about here? I thought this was the BDP-83 thread

Got my 83 a few days ago and have been playing all formats. So far, all sounds and looks great, really liking this player.

The only thing that I felt was strange was the speaker trim control.

Let's say you trim the sub level down to -10db because it's too loud for some reason, if you click it once more, as if you were trynig to trim it to -11, it doesn't stop at -10 as all other controls I have used do, but it goes to +10! No big deal, but it is counterintuitive. I would expect it to stop at -10 and go no further. The last place I want it to go in that situation is +10. Could damage a speaker in some scenarios, especially when you figure the changes are inplemented instantly as you select each one.

Hopefully a firmware upgrade can fix this. Minor issue though.

I did a search and found no mention of this.

Main problem: When I play Bonnie Raitt's DVD-A the player goes through the FBI warning, then a very quick "CAPITAL RECORDS" display accompanied by a "pop" sound, then the Capital Records logo sequence for 33 seconds then goes to 0, displays root menu and produces loud static. I have to hit stop then play to get the main menu to appear. Have repeated the sequence three times. This seems like something on the Oppo side.

Secondary problem: As the disk plays with the lyrics on the display, the lyrics don't change as the music progresses. This sounds, perhaps, like something on the disk side.

Any advice?

Sorry if this has been covered but when using the 1080P24 output setting to my JVC HD-100 (RS2) FP, I lose the volume display from my SSP (Integra). The connection is HDMI to SSP to JVC. Turning off the 1080P24 restores the Integra volume display on the projector.

Since my electronics are in another room I can't see the Integra display without leaving the HT room. This is a real PITA so I am not using 1080p24. Anyone else notice this?

By the way, I just wanted to throw my two cents in about the tray: Why is this such a cheap tray (in some peoples opinion)? I think the tray is perfectly suitable, and it's WAY better than the trays that were used with some of their older DVD player models. I really don't see a build quality issue here. I love the build and design. Just wanted to argue with those that thought this was cheap, it's not!

Before I get to the problem, I must state that when, on Friday, I received and unpacked the BDP-83 I was stunned by the quality of the packaging and pleasantly surprised by the inclusion of the calibration disc.

I hooked up the unit to the D2 via the HDMI output. Played it a bit on Friday, and again for a couple of hours on Saturday afternoon. By then I was pretty impressed by this $499 player as compared to the Sony BDP-S2000ES I have been using.

On Saturday evening about 2hrs into watching a BD disc, I encountered a loud snap from the speakers, followed by a shutdown of video and audio. None of the components actually shut down and I later confirmed, via the time graphs on a power monitoring software program I have, that there was no electrical spike.

After about 20 secs, the video came back up and maybe 15 secs later the audio returned. The D2 acted as if it were coming out of a protection mode from an input spike.

This has never happened before, and the only difference is the inclusion of the BDP-83 to the system and frankly I am concerned that the Oppo sent the spike via the HDMI cable, that by the way was mine, not the one they sent. I did this so the Sony and Oppo have the same input.

I will report this to Oppo and Anthem. Has anyone else encountered anything similar?

Question re audio: many older BD's only have a 'lossless PCM' audio track, not the newer hidef formats (Dolby Tru HD, DTS Master audio). Can one give this track over Bitstream, or does one need to set the 83 to output PCM?

I don't think anyone has mentioned this before. In some cases you want menu selections to loop around just for faster access, but maybe it makes no sense for the trim. The Picture Adjustment sliders don't loop either, for example.

-Bill

I have the -83 hooked up to a WD passport 2.5 HDD. -83 sees it and plays mp3s no problems. No external power needed and there isn't actually a way to power it. Its 160 GB and black.

I actually have 2 versions of this external WD passport

One silver top, black rubber bottom w/ ability to plug in external power @ 120 GB

One all black, no external power ability @160 GB.

Possible BUG: When playing mp3s sometimed "Add to Playlist" overlays "Shuffle/Random"

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nice to see that music plays when browsing other types of files.
vobs work okay, I have a 16:9 5.1DD dvd vidrecorder and it looks awesome. The problem with the vobs is FF and RW and chapter movement is wonky.

This is my first post but I must admit I have enjoyed reading this blog over the last few months. I am an old audiophile and still enjoy a little tweek here and there. But have learned to just enjoy the music. I know that real audiophiles only listen to analog. I was in that group for many years. But the first time I heard DVD Audio on a good 5.1 system I was hooked. It just seems to involve you more in the music. I have a large collection of DVD A and sacd. Some great some not so great but for the most part better then my old LP's.
I have to say that I got sucked into this EAP program and have to admit to checking my email on an all to regular basis. I was not one of the 350. But I came home from work a couple weeks ago and there was my invite to purchase the BDP 83. I felt like a little kid on Christmas morning. This is wierd because I have owned equipment costing 10 times as much and most were Stereophile recommended products. Oppo had me feeling like I did when I picked up my first Marantz system at Musicraft in Chicago in the early 70's. That system lead to 20 years in the comsumer electronics industry. The most enjoyable time of my life.
Well that brings me to friday when the fedex truck pulled up out front with my Oppo BDP 83. Like that first system I couldn't get it out of the box quick enough. (I knew this was going to be great because the box was like getting audio equipment from Tiffany's) Anyway I hooked it up through the analog inputs of my HK AVR 7200. HDMI to my Oppo switcher into my Panny plasma. Went into the setup menu and adjusted everything to my liking. Put in Hotel California and was instantly floored at the sound. Over the weekend I have listened to all my favorites and I must say that my expectations have been exceeded. I have owned many DVD A and SACD players and the without question the Oppo is the most musical.
This is my first BD player. I watched Australia and Boltz last night and all can say is it was the best picture and sound I have seen and heard on my system. Anyway, that's my 2 cents worth. I am going to go back to my living room to enjoy the music.
Oppo job well done. You have created a fantastic product at a fantastic price.

If you look at the Audio Signal Reference Chart in the manual, you get PCM for these tracks regardless of the setting.

-Bill

It might only be an issue if you have a cd or whatever that is putting out really excessive bass and you bring it down -10 then hit it once to much and push it to +10db. If -10db turns out to be balanced for your system on that cd and you roll it to +10 db, well that's +20db from ideal, could damage a sub that's not designed to handle that big a swing, correct?

I've never had anything like that using my Beta Oppo with the D2 or the D2v.

Did you happen to have the front panels in view? Any messages on the Oppo or D2 front panels during the loss of audio/video?

By all means call both Oppo and Anthem. While waiting on that, double check that in the course of adding the Oppo you didn't accidentally short any other cables/sockets.

Keep in mind that in addition to power, your system is likely also connected to the outside world via cable/satellite feed. That means you can sometimes get spikes that come in on the cable shields of those feeds (from lightning storms or whatever). Such garbage can travel from box to box (even if you are not viewing the cable/satellite at the moment) via the cable shields of the wires connecting the various boxes.
--Bob

As I was always planning to use this hard drive with the BDP-83, I would never have known about the problem if I hadn't tested the flash drive first. The main thing here, however, is to try to gather as much information as we can in order to help OPPO diagnose the issue, since perhaps every flash drive they've tested has worked fine. If, as in this case, plugging in a second drive apparently corrects a compatibility issue with another drive, then to me this strongly suggests a bug in the firmware as opposed to hardware-level incompatibility.


That's OK, just do what you can. I only have one flash drive, so I'm going to borrow somebody else's for now to experiment further (one with no critical data on it--I know people who have older flash drives lying around unused).


I use a PC, by the way, and although my BDP-83 was always able to access my flash drive's directory structure, it locked up upon accessing most files most of the time, sometimes immediately and sometimes after a few seconds. Occasionally, the file would play for more than a few seconds, and whenever that happened it generally played until the end perfectly. With a second USB drive attached to the other port, the drive that the BDP-83 was having problems with works flawlessly. Much of this information has been stated before, but the issue seems to be getting more attention now, so I'm reiterating it.


There may or may not be similar problems related to the fact that a drive had been formatted on a Mac, but my flash drive was formatted on a PC and I still experienced lock-ups when accessing it (until I plugged my external hard drive into the rear USB port simultaneously).


How clever of them to compromise compatibility on a type of format that is retained only for the purpose of compatibility.

Thanks, Bob,

The Oppo front panel appeared normal. I didn't see anything odd with the D2, and I know it did not totally shut down as my screen, that is connected to the D2 trigger, did not retract. Weather was clear and calm, and I have no way of knowing if the spike came from another unselected input.

How does the silver WD 120 GB work? I have one laying around...

As USB seems hit and miss, with certain devices working fine and others initiating the self destruct sequence, how about adding a list to the FAQ? Considering that USB support/changes seem low on Oppo's list, a 'Working USB devices/file types' would serve well in the interim. It could be a real time-saver (and cost-saver for those purchasing USB devices).

As part of the testing protocol, perhaps testers could populate both USB ports in the event of playback issues while using 1 USB port only. It seems to have worked in one case....

The D2 will put up a message on the front panel if it goes into protection. I presume you also did not see the Anthem splash screen come up indicating the D2 had rebooted.

If you had just lost audio, I'd suggest it was the power amp that went into protection -- and I'd look carefully for any hair of wire out of place at either end of each speaker wire.

But that wouldn't cause loss of video.

A failed HDMI handshake could cause loss of both audio and video -- including corrupted audio as part of that. But I'd either expect that to cure itself faster than 20 seconds or not at all. In any event, it is probably worth considering a replacement HDMI cable. While you are at it, get a flashlight and check both ends of the cable and both sockets for any sign of bent pin damage.
--Bob

Wild theory: an HDMI cable problem, possibly a momentary loose connector issue. With those awful connectors, nothing beats the security of the PPC locking connectors or possibly some of the other cheaper solutions out there.

I'm not yet seeing a consistency of reports on what works and what doesn't. It may be problem players, problem firmware, problem devices or problem formatting. (I omit "problem people" because everyone here is serious about testing USB, but you know it happens).

Unless we hear something definitive from OPPO I also suggest that everyone trying this be prepared to retry your test cases after each new firmware.

-Bill

Just setting up my unit, and am thrilled with both the analog stereo and HDMI outputs. However, I wanted to compare the Oppo's internal DAC's with my Benchmark DAC1. Unfortunately, I cannot get either the Digital coax or optical outputs to work. I've tried a factory reset, and also tried both the PCM and bitstream settings, but no luck. I previously used my 980H as a transport into the Benchmark via optical or coax, so I know those cables are good. I am seeing the red light output with the Toslink. Is there some special setting I'm missing?

Make sure everything is properly grounded. Since the Oppo doesn't include a grounding lugg on the AC cord, the grounding will need to come from the cables connecting the system.

It sounds to me like there was a static charge build-up that released though the system. You could try attaching a grounding wire from the Oppo chasis to the AVR grounding lugg. This would eliminate the possiblity of static build-up and discharge.

This disc has worked with previous FW revisions, this appears to be a new issue with the recent FW revision. This type of playback problem should be reported directly to Oppo.