Official OPPO BDP-83 Owner's Thread [technical talk only] - Page 376

It is best to do the +10DB increase in the receiver/pre-pro if possible so that the analog sub channel is not overdriven. I can get up to a +12DB increase on the sub channel on my pre-pro so I am doing a +10DB in the pre-pro and a +5DB with the Oppo since I am using bass management and running all speakers as small for the necessary +15DB total.

My bet is that it might cause signal to noise issues in some systems if the other non-sub channels are driven -10DB lower than normal, but I have never heard a report of that being done or implemented in any existing players. I have seen some players that will only decrease/lower the output levels instead of increasing them though which can make it more difficult to achieve balancing in some systems.

Thought the pl2 was just shorthand for pl2x dtrell [preliminary was stamped all over it]; when I notice the 983 has dd ex decoding [which can presumably be manually forced without a flag ?]; its a little retrograde . More 7.1 mixes would be nice from Hollywood

All this is complicated by the mixdown requirements of the new codecs Roger Dressler explained to me ; 7.1ch folds down to 5.1 then to 2.0

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post15215954

The loss of the back surround when decoding say a dts hdma 6.1 soundtrack [we were soldiers aus version has one ;quite rare ] is something to take into a/c possibly

I'm not really sure what you mean, but I have an 83 with the RS-232 mod. Works very well and has a nice, complete command set.

I don't know of any other 5x1 switchers. I've used the Gefen 4x1 HDMI 1.3 switcher for almost 2 yrs with my Onkyo TX-NR905 without any problems. The 905 doesn't have enough HDMI inputs for my equipment. I know Gefen has a 8x1 and 6x2 switcher but for a lot more money. Oppo has a 3x1 switcher.

That's amazing...I would gladly offer that given the opportunity. How I wish Oppo would've built a universal HD (with HD DVD playback) player!

Ditto. However it comes down to being able to get parts... both for manufacturing and repair. The fact is that there are no parts being manufactured, and there won't be either unless Toshiba decides to open that avenue again, and we know that ain't gonna happen.

"When using the multi-channel analog outputs the Subwoofer output is -10dB lower than the other channels. If your receiver does not perform a +10dB subwoofer boost, then you will need to manually set Subwoofer to +10dB."

Neuromancer: "Additional: Subwoofer will be -10dB off the bat, and another -5dB (total of -15dB) when the player is performing the bass management over multi-channel analog."

I missed this despite following a lot of the posts in this forum. I have small speakers, and send 5.1 analog audio to my receiver (Panasonic SA-XR57). I just re-read the receiver's user manual, and it indicates that the subwoofer default setting is 10, with a range of 1 to 19 (versus -10 to +10 on the other channels with a default of 0), so I presume that the receiver "performs a +10 dB subwoofer boost". What is with the extra +5 dB that Neuromancer is referring to?

1080p > 1080i is not scaling, it's interlacing. Scaling changes the image size. Whenever you change image size you have to "make up" information, i.e. dither (with the resolutions we're talking about). When properly done, 1080p24 -> 1080i60 should not lose any video (pixel) information. If you go from 1080p -> 720p you are losing information, some new pixels are created by dithering. When you scale to 1365x768 you are now dithering again and some of the video information being used to create new pixels was not in the original image. With 1080i60 you deinterlace to 1080p and then scale down to 1365x768. You may not be able to see a difference except with certain test patterns.

larry

See the FAQ: What if I want to set the color space manually?

-Bill

I had no trouble with the Blu-ray LET THE RIGHT ONE IN; do you really mean the DVD?

I'm sure OPPO would welcome details on specific disc issues.

-Bill

I've had the BPD-83 for almost a week and it has performed flawlessly. However, last night when I turned it on, I had no video (HDMI --> Pio PRO-1540HD)...HDMI audio set to OFF I did the following:

1. Powered it off and back on.
2. Unplugged it and plugged it back in
3. Connected a new HDMI cable
4. Changed HDMI inputs on the T.V.

Nothing, above worked. I then connected the component video and that worked. I then reset the factory defaults after which the HDMI output was restored. Prior to this fault, I had the Output resolution set to 1080p and 1080p24 set to ON. I don't know if that had an impact on this problem (like I said above, it's been working perfectly up to that point and I have used it a lot since I received it last week) but I now have them set to Auto.

Also, while I had no HDMI video output (I had my AVP set to the external 7.1 inputs) I heard a few snapping sounds through my audio system and was playing no disc at that time.

I've relayed this information to Oppo.

Thats true, it is a soho print server with a live RJ45/ethernet port. I had a unslugged NSLU2 NAS hooked up to it and it works great. You can easily add a 5 or 8 port switch to the server and it functions very well. Great range. Although its not an wifi class "N", but it should work for firmware updates and BD-live.

Has anyone experienced read problems with AVCH recordings? I have several discs that I made and they all freeze at the start menu. These same discs play fine on my PS3 and Pioneer Elite 05. They were made with the software included in the Hauppauge unit. Any advice would be appriciated.

I only have one example: the AVCHD version of the AVS HD 709 calibration disc. It is working from both disc and USB.

I would expect AVCHD changes in future firmware. You might ask OPPO if they would like one of your discs as a test case.

-Bill

As a general rule, any time this happens you should start by simply toggling through the resolution settings with the remote.

Oppo emailed saying that the PC cable (C13) would be fine to use instead of the provided C17. Then later they emailed again and they said that they had found an unused long PC cable in their office and was willing to ship it out to me. I had searched all day at work and also asked the datacenter manager for one and he gave one to me, so I emailed Oppo back and said there was no need to ship one to me. I can see why you all say they have great customer service!

The cable worked fine (but I only tried it for like 5 minutes yesterday, but I'm sure it is fine).

BTW, my work's datacenter manager said that they way I had the Oppo hooked up is not a fire hazard. He said an power strip into a UPS is fine. He said that a power strip into another power strip is a fire hazard.

I thought it was a matter of programming the laser pickup (besides programming for HDDVD) to read at different levels (since they are both Blue Laser). There were at least a couple of manufacturers that made those chips. Also, I think Toshiba released all royalties to HDDVD (i.e. don't have to pay them), so it would be almost "free" to add in.


BTW Smarty, I love the Cool Grape Kool-Aid avatar. The Green one kind of sucked. Grape is probably one of the best flavors (along with Cherry).

I think this has been asked before, but I can't find the post or in the manual or looking at the Oppo menu.

Is there Native Passthrough with Analog Outs? I want to turn off Matrixing to make sure that the original sound is coming out. I know according to the manual when the proper signal is coming out, it won't maxtrix. I'm not sure if that is the case. For example, when I played that MKV file that was over 4GB, the file was 2 channel (which I could see when I switched over to optical out). But when I used the analog out, it was 5.1. Is this right? Shouldn't the analog be outputting 2 channel also?

Thanks in advance

This may be overkill: Marantz AV3002 (6X2). It's an excellent switcher and includes a remote or can be added to a universal remote i.e., Harmony One and works reliably.

For what it's worth,
Richard

I have encountered a problem that I have not found by searching this thread. I all too frequently download 24/96 music from HDTracks, then burn them to DVD+R with DVD Audio Solo at full resolution. They have played with no problems in my 981. The first track of each disc plays fine in the -83 - then no sound - then the Oppo's display shows the remaining tracks going by in a flash - then displaying stop. If I try to access other tracks, the track number comes up followed by the rapid scanning.
I contacted the very nice folks at Oppo about this. The gentleman I talked to seemed very concerned, and ask for a copy. It is in the mail. I'm curious to know if anyone else is burning high rez dvds, and if so what results you've had. BTW I also burn these to cdr at 16/44.1. These play without problems. Another BTW - the cdr versions through the -83 sound much better than the DVD-A discs did through th 981.
I am so impressed with the sonic quality of this player's analog outs. I love my MC sacds, but was not expecting the increase in information (especially timbre) that I am getting via the 2 channel outs to preamp (by-passing the avr). Wind instruments actually sound like a column of air is going through them. You current or former wind players know of what I speak!
As so many others have voiced so often...Thanks to all responsible for this thread. The amount of information here is amazing. The frequently asked questions section is superb!

Cheers

I've reading alot of comments on the -10db attenuation built into the 83. I don't understand why they did it but I do understand how to fix it. If all your other channels are at 0db, then if you boost the SW +10db, all the channels are at 0db. It's very simple -10 +10= 0. You are not going to over drive your amps input because you are at 0db.

Please read...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=748147

As to "why", I was directed to LFE, subwoofers and interconnects explained.

-Bill

The MA Golds are awesome, but definately dont tell your husband the price lol.

Make sure that you have Pro Logic II disabled. That should do what you want.