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post #12511 of 38733
I have one problem with the player - and it is a known problem, so I'm sorry to bring it up again but I read the information on the eleveated LFE level (on p 406), I just don't understand....

Anyway, when we watch a movie on the Oppo we turn it up to hear the conversations but explosions rock the house. Is there a consensus on speaker settings within the Oppo? I could lower the sub level at my receiver or at the sub itself but that would affect all other sources's LFE (TiVo, VUDU, X360...).

Any solid advice here? Thanks (and sorry, audio speak just doesn't sink in with me)

BTW Oppo -> Denon 3808ci -> Pioneer PRO-151FD (w/Bose acoustimass system) - if it helps advice any
post #12512 of 38733
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

It is a hardware change and as far as I know all new players will have it, although I don't suppose that is guarenteed.

You understand that the total bootup time is unchanged, regardless of how fast the tray ejects?

-Bill

Thanks Bill. It is nice to throw the disc in and go sit down - huge improvement over the pioneer 51 that almost ended up getting destroyed by my impatient wife!
post #12513 of 38733
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

I have enjoyed my oppo since the second eap and have experienced roughly 12 second eject times. From reading the FAQ (great job wmcclain), it seems this is normal, but the newest players are showing an eject time of 4 seconds. Is this true for most or some of the newer produced units?

The FAQ suggests a hardware benefit - will my 2nd eap unit not get faster through optimizaiton/code via firmware?

Thanks in advance - have an invitation to buy a second and am considering...

Have you tried pressing eject on the remote or front panel before anything else include power on and timing it from there? Does it still take 12 seconds?
post #12514 of 38733
extended warranty worth the $50 or no?
post #12515 of 38733
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Originally Posted by Xhorder View Post

Hmmm... FWIW, I'm successfully using a regular ethernet cable with my Squeezebox3

And you have it configured as a wireless bridge as well?
post #12516 of 38733
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Originally Posted by pgwalsh View Post

Have you tried pressing eject on the remote or front panel before anything else include power on and timing it from there? Does it still take 12 seconds?

eject button on remote is the same - just under 12 seconds for the tray to open. wish mine opened in three!
post #12517 of 38733
about to place my order and just wanted to see what everyone else was doing regarding the warranty portion of the order form! I cant decide if its worth it! im hoping this player lasts me a while though, so im leaning toward the $50 extra year...

any suggestions?
post #12518 of 38733
about to place my order and just wanted to see what everyone else was doing regarding the warranty portion of the order form! I cant decide if its worth it! im hoping this player lasts me a while though, so im leaning toward the $50 extra year...

any suggestions?
post #12519 of 38733
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Originally Posted by winston9332 View Post

eject button on remote is the same - just under 12 seconds for the tray to open. wish mine opened in three!

As I think it's been noted elsewhere in the thread, the tray just opens earlier on some (mine included), it doesn't change the boot sequence. We have to wait as long as everyone else before it is ready to do anything with the disc.
post #12520 of 38733
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Originally Posted by ckelly33 View Post

I have one problem with the player - and it is a known problem, so I'm sorry to bring it up again but I read the information on the eleveated LFE level (on p 406), I just don't understand....

Anyway, when we watch a movie on the Oppo we turn it up to hear the conversations but explosions rock the house. Is there a consensus on speaker settings within the Oppo? I could lower the sub level at my receiver or at the sub itself but that would affect all other sources's LFE (TiVo, VUDU, X360...).

Any solid advice here? Thanks (and sorry, audio speak just doesn't sink in with me)

BTW Oppo -> Denon 3808ci -> Pioneer PRO-151FD (w/Bose acoustimass system) - if it helps advice any

Assuming you are using HDMI into the Denon from the Oppo for sound, there should be no difference from what Oppo sends to your Denon (in terms of balance) versus what other digital sources are sending.
post #12521 of 38733
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Originally Posted by bkmerrill View Post

about to place my order and just wanted to see what everyone else was doing regarding the warranty portion of the order form! I cant decide if its worth it! im hoping this player lasts me a while though, so im leaning toward the $50 extra year...

any suggestions?

Skip it for now. You can always buy one anytime during the original warranty period.
post #12522 of 38733
Just tried this on my player purchased 3 weeks ago. From Power off to tray eject takes between 2 -3 seconds. The FAQ is not quite clear on this. Exactly what "hardware changes" were made and when were they done?
post #12523 of 38733
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Originally Posted by bkmerrill View Post

about to place my order and just wanted to see what everyone else was doing regarding the warranty portion of the order form! I cant decide if its worth it! im hoping this player lasts me a while though, so im leaning toward the $50 extra year...

any suggestions?

I probably wouldn't buy it. If the player breaks after the 1 year warranty OPPO has fairly cheap fixed-price out-of-warranty service: something like $50-60.

Of course, that has been the practice so far; it could change.

-Bill
post #12524 of 38733
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Originally Posted by briandx View Post

Just tried this on my player purchased 3 weeks ago. From Power off to tray eject takes between 2 -3 seconds. The FAQ is not quite clear on this. Exactly what "hardware changes" were made and when were they done?

I believe it was a change in a component from a supplier. OPPO might have done some development to take advantage of the capability.

-Bill
post #12525 of 38733
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Originally Posted by snowghost View Post

I've tried to search for an answer but am not clear on the optimum setup for SACD.

I have a Pioneer SD-DVD player with SACD/DVD-A capability that is hooked up to a Yamaha RX-V3800's analog inputs for SACD listening. To have acceptable bass in relation to other sources, the Pioneer's bass management settings have are set to +6db for LFE and -6db for all other channels.

Would it be best hooking the Oppo to use DSD over HDMI and would I get the mix and fidelity the engineers intended?

In the interim, I'll continue scouring the thread, but thought somebody might have a quick answer as to the best setup for SACD.

DSD over HDMI will be converted to PCM in the Yamaha for DSP, so PCM over HDMI will sound pretty much the same except for minor differences in level. There's no way and no need to adjust channel levels in the player for either mode.
post #12526 of 38733
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Originally Posted by nathan_h View Post

Assuming you are using HDMI into the Denon from the Oppo for sound, there should be no difference from what Oppo sends to your Denon (in terms of balance) versus what other digital sources are sending.

I am using HDMI - thanks.
post #12527 of 38733
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Originally Posted by bkmerrill View Post

about to place my order and just wanted to see what everyone else was doing regarding the warranty portion of the order form! I cant decide if its worth it! im hoping this player lasts me a while though, so im leaning toward the $50 extra year...

any suggestions?

Just a bit impatient, aren't we? (3 posts in 12 minutes asking the same thing? ). If it makes you feel better, then spend the $50 bucks. If the player happens to break during the extended warranty period you'll probably recover your money. Personally, I think it's foolish to spend the money given what we know of past experiences with Oppo and most consumer electronics devices tend to fail early in their life or from age - in either case the extended warranty isn't going to do you any good.
post #12528 of 38733
Hiya guys.... pretty excited - my 83 comes tomorrow, just trying to get things setup ahead of time.....

Could use some help...

Does any have a pre configured Pronto IR code page for the BDP-83, looking to add it to my config, thought it would be worth a shot to ask.

I did download the hex code from the site, just hoping to save myself some time...


Thanks in advance....
post #12529 of 38733
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Originally Posted by ehlarson View Post

From the setup guide in the wiki:***********At the end, your Squeezebox2 will be acting as a wireless bridge.

Thanks very much. That is incredibly helpful.
post #12530 of 38733
I'm a long-time Oppo fan (971H owner) who missed out on the voting-beta-test thing but got the offer for early purchase. Couldn't resist and have been casually using the BDP-83 for about two weeks. I've been curious to see how it performs as opposed to my prior Blu-Ray player, a PS3. It seems to do well. The player is feeding a Fujitsu plasma that is not capable of 1080p. I've even been able to play the UK Blu-Ray version of the BBC series Life on Mars, including the special features--which are PAL encoded and won't play on the PS3. The only minor area in which the PS3 does better, on that same disc, is reducing "jumping" on the credits on the HD shows themselves. As they scroll up, the PS3 suppresses the jumping pretty well, but not entirely. They are much "jumpier" on the Oppo. I have the Oppo set to output 1080i. Haven't tinkered with any of the other video settings.

I just haven't had the time to keep up with the depth of content on this thread, but any thoughts about this would be appreciated. Not clear to me whether this has any real world significance, but I'm wondering if I don't have the Oppo set up optimally for my set. The "problem" could be limited to the quirk of playing a UK Blu-Ray on my setup of course . . .
post #12531 of 38733
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Originally Posted by Glider View Post

Dear Forum Friends,

I'm contemplating replacing an old (but reliable) Denon 2900 DVD player with an OPPO '83, largely for its flexibility and high resolution audio performance, at a competitive price point. I already own a high performing Blu-ray player, but have quite a few SACD and DVD-A discs that I play from time to time on my '2900. I would very much appreciate any comments on the new OPPO's SACD and DVD-A audio performance. D'you think I'd hear an audible improvement over my vintage Denon 2900?

Thanks for your help--
-= Glider =-

I have had a Denon 2900 since shortly after they came out and replaced it with the Oppo as part of the 2nd round of the EAP.

FWIW & IMHO:

DVD-A: Slightly better all the way around. Slightly better imaging, tighter bass, but on the other hand, still not a truly finished product - it plays everything I throw at it, but there are hiccups here and there (won't play every track every time - you may have to direct access a specific track if it freezes).

SACD: No comparison
Oppo much better. I have to agree with many of the early reviews on the Denon 2900 that it was a better DVD-A player than SACD. I have several of Peter Gabriel's SACD's, and quite honestly, very disappointed in how they sounded on the 2900. Stopped listening to them as a matter of fact. Tried them on the Oppo. WOW. I've always thought that PG's albums (in the vinyl days) were a cut above most, and that he cared about putting out a well recorded/engineered product. Now it shows again.
Not as noticable on some others, but everything is smoother with better soundstage depth apparent on almost everything.

You didn't ask, but regular old CD's that are well recorded sound noticibly better as well
post #12532 of 38733
Sorry if this was already discussed, but I couldn't find anything within the last 10+ pages...
I connected BDP-83 to Onkyo SR875 using the dedicated stereo output. Now I just need some suggestions on best settings. I am trying to achieve the best result for CD playback.
Thanks

--BDP-83--
SACD Output: PCM or DSD?

--SR875--
CD Listening Mode Preset:
Analog/PCM: Direct, Stereo, or Pure Audio?
post #12533 of 38733
Have my invite!! Any reason to get the RS232? I don't see why, but just curious if anyone thinks its needed? Thanks.
post #12534 of 38733
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Originally Posted by jope05 View Post

Have my invite!! Any reason to get the RS232? I don't see why, but just curious if anyone thinks its needed? Thanks.

Read the FAQ... Short answer is if you don't know that you need it, you probably don't.
post #12535 of 38733
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Originally Posted by jope05 View Post

Have my invite!! Any reason to get the RS232? I don't see why, but just curious if anyone thinks its needed? Thanks.

As has been said before- if you don't know, you don't need it.

(It's only for alternate serial control systems.)
post #12536 of 38733
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Originally Posted by sk20 View Post

This is very interesting! I had heard of this, but assumed it didn't work, in the same way that X10 is balky. Now I'm inspired to take a look at this instead of running Ethernet to our A/V closet.

What are the limitations? Do the devices have to be on the same circuit breaker?

I'm pretty sure they would be as signal loss would be too great otherwise.

And as another poster pointed out, YMMV. In an apartment studio, I'm successfully using the source upstairs and an associated switch downstairs...throughput measures to be ~80Mbps on a consistent basis.
post #12537 of 38733
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Originally Posted by kirko View Post

Sorry if this was already discussed, but I couldn't find anything within the last 10+ pages...
I connected BDP-83 to Onkyo SR875 using the dedicated stereo output. Now I just need some suggestions on best settings. I am trying to achieve the best result for CD playback.
Thanks

--BDP-83--
SACD Output: PCM or DSD?

--SR875--
CD Listening Mode Preset:
Analog/PCM: Direct, Stereo, or Pure Audio?

Sounds like you have 6 combinations to try out and then come back and tell us which sounded best to you.
post #12538 of 38733
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Originally Posted by progprog View Post

As has been said before- if you don't know, you don't need it.

(It's only for alternate serial control systems.)

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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Read the FAQ... Short answer is if you don't know that you need it, you probably don't.

Thank you for your replies. I have read the FAQs. I was simply asking for some opinions and thoughts. I never really understood taking the time to reply when the purpose of the reply is to say, "look somewhere else." If you didn't think the question worthy of a response, no need to reply. I genuinely appreciate all the info on this thread, which i have been reading for some time -- and am excited to "join the club". Sorry if i bothered you guys.
post #12539 of 38733
My bass mgmt is perfectly fine if I output bitstream over coax, but LPCM and Analog out leaves me with no bass. I set the sub trim up 10db on the player, but this is still another 10db lower yet (more than 20db in all). I would like to get access to the player's hd codecs while getting lfe performance. Anybody know what I'm doing wrong?

Thought I would add that my pre-pro is the Outlaw Audio 970 and my sub is an SVS PC13 Ultra. Don't believe the setting are wrong here though as they work just fine via bitstream and with my old player.
post #12540 of 38733
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Originally Posted by jope05 View Post

Have my invite!! Any reason to get the RS232? I don't see why, but just curious if anyone thinks its needed? Thanks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jope05 View Post

Thank you for your replies. I have read the FAQs. I was simply asking for some opinions and thoughts. I never really understood taking the time to reply when the purpose of the reply is to say, "look somewhere else." If you didn't think the question worthy of a response, no need to reply. I genuinely appreciate all the info on this thread, which i have been reading for some time -- and am excited to "join the club". Sorry if i bothered you guys.

I thought the responses from progprog and gsr were appropriate and not mean in any way.

RS232 is desirable for those who want to automate their whole HT system with a central control system like Crestron. It's basically a hard-wired system with a remote that talks to a small computer that will turn on/off appropriate devices as the activity requires. If you've got the cash or the know how to pull this off, then RS232 is very desireable as wireless remotes can sometimes be flaky.
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