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post #15391 of 38741
6/26/09 at 11:05pm
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Originally Posted by ConradWS View Post

In the Oppo browser it appears that files on a USB stick appear in the order they are copied on the drive and not in numerical order.

Unfortunately the player sorts based off of Date Created and not based off of Numerical or Alphabetical hierarchy.
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Is this something that I need to drop a note to technical support for?

No. Has been an issue since the DV-980H product.
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post #15392 of 38741
6/27/09 at 12:13am
Bizarre behavior. I ejected a movie from my 83. The tray opened, then the display turned off, and I couldn't close the tray using the open/close button. The blue "on" light was still lit on the power button. I had to push the tray close and do a hard shut-off. Any ideas why?
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post #15393 of 38741
6/27/09 at 12:15am
Tnx N.
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post #15394 of 38741
6/27/09 at 2:13am
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

Bizarre behavior. I ejected a movie from my 83. The tray opened, then the display turned off, and I couldn't close the tray using the open/close button. The blue "on" light was still lit on the power button. I had to push the tray close and do a hard shut-off. Any ideas why?

An old bug that I reported about 2 months ago.
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post #15395 of 38741
6/27/09 at 3:56am
yea, that is why I was surprised to see this happen.
I certainly rather set the fronts to small to get the proper bass management out of my system, but I have boosted the level on my AV unit for the LFE by 10dB (almost maxed) and have manually boosted the level at my sub pretty high also, I still don't get the punch I used to.

I have an older M&K sub connected to a Yamaha RX-Z9, so maybe there is something wrong with the sub....I will continue doing some tweaking so that I can do this the proper way.

thanks for the input.

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Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

When speakers are set to large, the lower frequencies are sent to the full range speakers at full volume. When speakers are set to small, the lower frequencies are rerouted to the sub channel where they are mixed with LFE. In order to make sure it doesn't overload the connections, the redirected bass is attenuated by 15db prior to mixing. It must be boosted by 15db to get it back to the proper level.

If you get better bass when changing your speakers to large, it pretty much has to mean you need to calibrate your system. You are simply not doing the needed amount of boost for the sub channel. The improvement you hear isn't from your sub coming alive. It's from the fact that you are no longer using the sub for the low frequencies from the other channels. It's hard to imagine that your regular speakers can handle deep bass better than your sub. Unless you have an awful sub, bass response should never be better with speakers set to large.
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post #15396 of 38741
6/27/09 at 4:12am
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Originally Posted by lazzz View Post

yea, that is why I was surprised to see this happen.
I certainly rather set the fronts to small to get the proper bass management out of my system, but I have boosted the level on my AV unit for the LFE by 10dB (almost maxed) and have manually boosted the level at my sub pretty high also, I still don't get the punch I used to.

I have an older M&K sub connected to a Yamaha RX-Z9, so maybe there is something wrong with the sub....I will continue doing some tweaking so that I can do this the proper way.

thanks for the input.

Lazzz,

You may be in part be experiencing the loss of the subwoofer trim level in your analog level settings during power off/on. Say you had your sub trim level set to +10. Then you turned off your player to go repremand your cat for shredding your subwoofer. On return you turn the player back on. Although the subwoofer trim level may say that its still +10, it still reverted to "0" internally. The firmware released yesterday announced in this thread says that it fixes that. I'd recommend writing down all your numbers in the analog multichannel setup, do a factory reset to defaul, then load the new software, and then manually put your setting back in. If that doesn't work, check to see whatever other damage the cat may have done.
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post #15397 of 38741
6/27/09 at 4:26am
hahahaha

Let me try the new firmware. Maybe the cat did enough damage to the sub so that I have an excuse to go buy me a new one

thanks for your post.

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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Lazzz,

You may be in part be experiencing the loss of the subwoofer trim level in your analog level settings during power off/on. Say you had your sub trim level set to +10. Then you turned off your player to go repremand your cat for shredding your subwoofer. On return you turn the player back on. Although the subwoofer trim level may say that its still +10, it still reverted to "0" internally. The firmware released yesterday announced in this thread says that it fixes that. I'd recommend writing down all your numbers in the analog multichannel setup, do a factory reset to defaul, then load the new software, and then manually put your setting back in. If that doesn't work, check to see whatever other damage the cat may have done.
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post #15398 of 38741
6/27/09 at 4:34am
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Originally Posted by lazzz View Post

hahahaha

Let me try the new firmware. Maybe the cat did enough damage to the sub so that I have an excuse to go buy me a new one

thanks for your post.

Well, the wife doesn't have to know how much the cat did versus his owner.
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post #15399 of 38741
6/27/09 at 5:12am
I'm sure that this has been discussed before, but I didn't see it in the bugs. The opening Oppo logo flashes twice in green before settling down to blue. Upgrading to the current firmware didn't resolve this (nor did it claim to). Is this endemic, or do I have a separate issue? It's not a biggie, but is a little weird. I don't see it in the first post bug list.

Kevin
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post #15400 of 38741
6/27/09 at 5:19am
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Originally Posted by Kevin McCarthy View Post

I'm sure that this has been discussed before, but I didn't see it in the bugs. The opening Oppo logo flashes twice in green before settling down to blue. Upgrading to the current firmware didn't resolve this (nor did it claim to). Is this endemic, or do I have a separate issue? It's not a biggie, but is a little weird. I don't see it in the first post bug list.

Kevin

It sounds like an HDMI handshaking issue with your gear. Different gear would show a different startup. I would not call it a bug unless it is affecting playback quality or operations.

-Bill
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post #15401 of 38741
6/27/09 at 5:49am
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Originally Posted by Kevin McCarthy View Post

I'm sure that this has been discussed before, but I didn't see it in the bugs. The opening Oppo logo flashes twice in green before settling down to blue. Upgrading to the current firmware didn't resolve this (nor did it claim to). Is this endemic, or do I have a separate issue? It's not a biggie, but is a little weird. I don't see it in the first post bug list.

Kevin

One of my sets, a Pioneer Elite PRO-730HD, does this also, (green only once, for a second, than the proper blue logo). Don't have that issue with the other connected set (via a HDMI splitter).

I'm just happy the Oppo HDMI is shaking hands at all with that dinosaur of a TV
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post #15402 of 38741
6/27/09 at 6:57am
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Originally Posted by ConradWS View Post

In the Oppo browser it appears that files on a USB stick appear in the order they are copied on the drive and not in numerical order. Is this something that I need to drop a note to technical support for?

I would say send them a note asking for a new feature to sort files alphabetically. If they get a lot of requests they might add it. It would be much nicer to see a bunch of TV episodes on a USB stick in the right order (without having to manually copy them one by one).
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post #15403 of 38741
6/27/09 at 7:40am
I have been searching and haven't seen this issue posted.

I am having trouble with the video from BD being ahead of the audio. There are controls to delay the audio, but this only will make matters worse for me. I need to delay the video, not the audio.

Has anyone else seen trouble with the BDP-83 having the video get ahead of the audio? I have seen this with HDMI and also 8 channel analog audio outputs with BD.

craigr
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post #15404 of 38741
6/27/09 at 7:47am
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Originally Posted by CIR-Engineering View Post

I have been searching and haven't seen this issue posted.

I am having trouble with the video from BD being ahead of the audio. There are controls to delay the audio, but this only will make matters worse for me. I need to delay the video, not the audio.

Has anyone else seen trouble with the BDP-83 having the video get ahead of the audio? I have seen this with HDMI and also 8 channel analog audio outputs with BD.

craigr

Yes I've seen it from time to time. No fix yet as far as I know.
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post #15405 of 38741
6/27/09 at 7:52am
Hi
I have a USB key with three .avi files on it
The Oppo will play only one of these
Both my computer and the media player in my flatscreen can play all three files
What can the problem be?
Thanks in advance
Jakob
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post #15406 of 38741
6/27/09 at 8:09am
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Originally Posted by jake51 View Post

Hi
I have a USB key with three .avi files on it
The Oppo will play only one of these
Both my computer and the media player in my flatscreen can play all three files
What can the problem be?
Thanks in advance
Jakob

Not all audio/video codecs are supported. See the FAQ:

-Bill
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post #15407 of 38741
6/27/09 at 8:10am
Can anyone who downloaded the June 26 beta firmware report if it fixed the "pops" with SACD?


Thanks,

Patrick
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post #15408 of 38741
6/27/09 at 8:15am
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Originally Posted by TL5 View Post

Can anyone who downloaded the June 26 beta firmware report if it fixed the "pops" with SACD?

That exact topic has been discussed in the last couple of pages since the firmware was released. The conclusion seems to be that the problem has improved a bit, but is still there.
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post #15409 of 38741
6/27/09 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

I would say send them a note asking for a new feature to sort files alphabetically. If they get a lot of requests they might add it. It would be much nicer to see a bunch of TV episodes on a USB stick in the right order (without having to manually copy them one by one).

There are file utilities that can re-sort files so they appear in order... I know of fatsort on linux and foldersort on windows...
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post #15410 of 38741
6/27/09 at 8:23am
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Originally Posted by CIR-Engineering View Post

I have been searching and haven't seen this issue posted.

I am having trouble with the video from BD being ahead of the audio. There are controls to delay the audio, but this only will make matters worse for me. I need to delay the video, not the audio.

Has anyone else seen trouble with the BDP-83 having the video get ahead of the audio? I have seen this with HDMI and also 8 channel analog audio outputs with BD.

craigr

That's strange. What does your player to display chain include? Sounds like there must some extra processing to the audio side further delaying it.
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post #15411 of 38741
6/27/09 at 8:27am
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Originally Posted by ajburgh View Post

Just wanted to ask the obvious question. With "when burned to a cd" do you mean a data CD with files on it or an audio CD? Some burn software when you tell it to burn audio files on a CD will default to creating a regular audio CD, which of course will play on any CD player because it's no longer a set of files with a specific format.

Just making sure that you're comparing the same thing on two different devices.

Yes, data cd using imgburn.
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post #15412 of 38741
6/27/09 at 8:28am
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Originally Posted by Xhorder View Post

There are file utilities that can re-sort files so they appear in order... I know of fatsort on linux and foldersort on windows...

I wasn't aware of those. I'll look them up and add links to the FAQ.

Thanks!

-Bill
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post #15413 of 38741
6/27/09 at 8:38am
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Release date: June 26, 2009
Category: Public Beta Release
Main Version: BDP83-31-0620
Loader Version: BE2403 85752403
Sub Version: MCU83-23-0513
Release Notes:

The major changes included in this version are:

1. Support for viewing static pictures on DVD-Audio discs using the PAGE UP and PAGE DOWN remote control buttons.

2. Compatibility improvement for user-encoded DVD-Audio discs.

3. Support for bitstream output of HDCD

4. Improvement for DVD navigation.

5. Fix for the issue of subwoofer trim setting not applied after power cycle.

Bonuses: These fixes are not documented, but should actually be fixed in this firmware. No Guarantees.

1. Fix for the Rice Krispie "Snap, Crackle, and Pops" of SACD playback.

2. Pressing the YELLOW button during DVD-Video to access the main feature no longer causes subtitles to turn on by default.

Note: Ethernet based upgrading is not available for this firmware. You must upgrade the firmware using USB or CD methods.

Noticed that the online user manual got the official release also yesterday.
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post #15414 of 38741
6/27/09 at 8:55am
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Originally Posted by CIR-Engineering View Post

I have been searching and haven't seen this issue posted.

I am having trouble with the video from BD being ahead of the audio. There are controls to delay the audio, but this only will make matters worse for me. I need to delay the video, not the audio.

Has anyone else seen trouble with the BDP-83 having the video get ahead of the audio? I have seen this with HDMI and also 8 channel analog audio outputs with BD.

craigr

FWIW- I have the same issue with the Opus Arte blu-ray demo disk - Opera & Ballet and I am running analog out. Frustrating - great audio & video, but out of sync.
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post #15415 of 38741
6/27/09 at 9:00am
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Originally Posted by kunzelman View Post

For all you folks trying to playback AVCHD.

I have a Canon HFS10 and found that I needed the entire AVCHD file structure to play back the videos (as others have noted).

Unfortunately the canon software drops the index.bdm and movieobj.bdm when copying the clips over to your computer, so without re-authoring the videos I could not play them on the Oppo.

However I was able to hook the camera up via USB and the Oppo navigated down to the clips and could play them just fine. Very handy since I don't have any hdmi ports accessable from the front of my system.

Hi,
I am completely new to this forum. I am trying to view my HF10 files as well but am having difficulty. When you say that the BDP-83 needs the entire file structure, what exactly do you mean? I copy my camcorder files over to my mac from the "AVCHD" folder down (i.e. including the AVCHDTN, BDMV, and CANON folders and everything contained therein, but not including the PRIVATE folder directly above AVCHD). Will these files be enough to playback my .mts files if I burn the entire file structure to a DVD-R or DVD+R DL?

Also, I was stupid enough to have copied just the .mts files (or the files in the STREAM folder) on a few occasions, thinking I just needed the stream files and nothing else. Is it possible to recover the entire file structure and all the necessary files (is this what you mean by "re-authoring")? Or am I up a creek? If it is possible, how do I go about doing it?

Sorry about the lateness of the post. Thanks for your help
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post #15416 of 38741
6/27/09 at 9:30am
It seems like source direct outputs 1080i/60 for DVD-A and SACD. Is that the way it supposed to be?
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post #15417 of 38741
6/27/09 at 9:31am
Anybody using a harmony/logitec remote with this player? If so did you have to program the remote codes in or select a previous OPPO player model number during setup? Thx for any info.
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post #15418 of 38741
6/27/09 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by alv View Post

It seems like source direct outputs 1080i/60 for DVD-A and SACD. Is that the way it supposed to be?

SACD and DVD-A will set the player's resolution to 1080 regardless of the user settings. This is required for HDMI output.
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post #15419 of 38741
6/27/09 at 9:51am
I am using a Harmony 550 and most of the codes are on Harmony's set up site. I just selected the BDP-83 as the oprtion and made a few updates in the set up but did not have to teach the remote any commands. Some may need more commands than I do so it may be necessary depending on what funtions you need.
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post #15420 of 38741
6/27/09 at 9:52am
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Originally Posted by Daryl L View Post

Anybody using a harmony/logitec remote with this player? If so did you have to program the remote codes in or select a previous OPPO player model number during setup? Thx for any info.

I'm using a Harmony One. I am also using the second code set for the Oppo because I have another Oppo DVD player. I only had to teach the remote one code. It appears that the Harmony website already has most, if not all, codes for the 83, and this was as of three weeks ago so it can only be getting better. You should be able to get all the codes.
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