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post #15421 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Daryl L View Post

Anybody using a harmony/logitec remote with this player? If so did you have to program the remote codes in or select a previous OPPO player model number during setup? Thx for any info.

Chose BDP-83 in the Harmony setup. Works fine.
post #15422 of 38730
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Originally Posted by TL5 View Post

Can anyone who downloaded the June 26 beta firmware report if it fixed the "pops" with SACD?


Thanks,

Patrick

I reported last night there were a couple pops after the upgrade, but also did not set the player back to factory defaults after applying the firmware.

As such, I re-applied/reset player defaults, and so far with the same disc as last night (Moody Blues "On The Threshold of a Dream" SACD), no pops.

i do notice a click when the tracks change and that is consistent so I'm assuming that's the way it was mastered somehow. My other SACD player is not hooked up at the moment so I can't compare that "issue". Maybe somebody else has the disc and can comment?

UPDATE: Spoke too soon, a couple more "pops". Very intermittent though it'd be nice if they were eliminated once and for all.
post #15423 of 38730
Check out this post about the BDP-83 in the Denon DVD-A1 thread. Nothing like starting false rumors...
post #15424 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Brian-HD View Post

An old bug that I reported about 2 months ago.

Ok, what was the outcome?
post #15425 of 38730
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

SACD and DVD-A will set the player's resolution to 1080 regardless of the user settings. This is required for HDMI output.

And very useful. On the 980, one has to do this manually and if, as I have done by accident many times, one hits the HDMI button on the front and resets the resolution too low, one gets stereo output only. I cannot tell you the frustration I suffer as I try to debug the system and look everywhere before realizing, aha, I have screwed it up myself.
post #15426 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

Ok, what was the outcome?

not easy to isolate; is it repeating for you?
post #15427 of 38730
I was reading in a review that the 83 will output 1080p/24 as an option on regular DVD's. I didn't know this was possible. Doesn't the source have to be 24 (Blu-Ray)??
Anybody notice any difference between 24 and 60 for regular DVDs?

My Pio 111 has 60Hz flicker which is noticeable to me especially on brighter material so I'm looking forward to reviews with this 1080/24 SD DVD feature. 72Hz SD DVD would be great if I'm understanding this feature correctly.
post #15428 of 38730
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Originally Posted by rdiaz View Post

Hi,
I am completely new to this forum. I am trying to view my HF10 files as well but am having difficulty. When you say that the BDP-83 needs the entire file structure, what exactly do you mean? I copy my camcorder files over to my mac from the "AVCHD" folder down (i.e. including the AVCHDTN, BDMV, and CANON folders and everything contained therein, but not including the PRIVATE folder directly above AVCHD). Will these files be enough to playback my .mts files if I burn the entire file structure to a DVD-R or DVD+R DL?

Yes, it should work, either burned to disc or copied to a USB device.

The top AVCHD folder can be nested within any other folders; just navigate to it using the player browser.

There have been mentions of AVCHD authoring tools here but I haven't kept links. You might try a search.

-Bill
post #15429 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Scottyman View Post

I was reading in a review that the 83 will output 1080p/24 as an option on regular DVD's.

Yes, but only for discs with 3:2 cadence (NTSC) and not for PAL. The BDP-83 bases 24fps conversion on 3:2 pulldown detection.

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I didn't know this was possible.

Yes, people have been playing dvds (both PAL and NTSC) on their HTPCs for years at 24fps using a freeware tool called Reclock. PAL dvds are preferred, generally, due, in part, to higher resolution.

Some people were hoping Oppo would finally support 24fps on PAL dvds.

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Doesn't the source have to be 24 (Blu-Ray)??

No, that's not true.

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Anybody notice any difference between 24 and 60 for regular DVDs?

Yes, people do notice the difference. A friend said the Oppo BPD-83, when 24 fps does work, works very well. However, the feature doesn't work with all NTSC dvds due to poor authoring and not at all with Region free PAL dvds.
post #15430 of 38730
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However, the feature doesn't work with all NTSC dvds due to poor authoring and not at all with Region free PAL dvds.

And DVDs made from 30fps video - like many concert discs.

larry
post #15431 of 38730
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Check out this post about the BDP-83 in the Denon DVD-A1 thread. Nothing like starting false rumors...

I enjoy learning about a/v products by reading constructive criticism posted by intelligent contributors based on their research and experience.

Unfortunately, this post is a perfect example of why one particular high-end BD owner's thread has become unreadable: wild, unsubstantiated claims with no supporting science.

Can bashing someone else's a/v product really make a person feel that much better about their own purchase decision?

Hook
post #15432 of 38730
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Originally Posted by CIR-Engineering View Post

I am having trouble with the video from BD being ahead of the audio.

I've never had that problem using LPCM via HDMI and a Denon 3806 to a 8G Kuro. There is also an OPPO HDMI switch in my chain.
post #15433 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Daryl L View Post

Anybody using a harmony/logitec remote with this player? If so did you have to program the remote codes in or select a previous OPPO player model number during setup? Thx for any info.

I'm using a Harmony 1000 and I was able to use BDP-83 in the Harmony data base.
post #15434 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Scottyman View Post

I was reading in a review that the 83 will output 1080p/24 as an option on regular DVD's....

I have the DVD 24fps option turned on, and just to further test it, I pulled one of the oldest discs I have, Ladyhawke from the late '90s. While the picture quality of this disc is one of watching a VHS tape, the player had no problem with the disc except for a second or two at the beginning to lock onto the cadence. I haven't found a DVD disc yet that won't play at this setting.
post #15435 of 38730
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

And DVDs made from 30fps video - like many concert discs....

I need to try others, but Sting's Brand New Day DVD plays correctly at 24fps, and I compared back and forth with the option On and Off, and preferred the 24fps playing more. As I looked through my collection of concert DVDs, none of them mentioned whether the picture was video or film, and the Sting disc has a fairly substantial credits list. I guess it's just a matter of trying them.
post #15436 of 38730
Wondering if anyone can help me with an issue I'm having. I just received the OPPO a few days ago.

I have the Oppo connected via my Arcam AVR600 to my Sony VPL-VW50 on output 1.

First issue is that turning on or off the projector causes the sound to pause for a couple of seconds. This is a minor annoyance.

Second is that using my new Oppo BDP-83 I get no audio when the projector is switched off. Always get sound when it is turned on, however I don't really want that when I just want to listen to music. I have used my Sony BDP-S550 on the same input (DVD) with the same cable and don't have this issue i.e. CD playback always works, even if the Sony display is turned off. I think it must be something related to HDMI handshaking between the two units. But I can't understand why the display needs to be on to get sound. It is unclear if it is an issue with the Arcam or the Oppo or both, however as the Sony works fine something is messed up. I have tried various firmware variants for the Oppo but still the same result. The AVR600 is on F/W 1.8.

If anyone has any suggestions as to a remedy then I would be very grateful. Thanks.
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I'm having a possible issue with Blu-ray discs, DTS and my Oppo.
Two of my Blu-ray discs , The Fifth Element & The Italian Job, lists DTS audio tracks on their covers but the selection is not available in the audio setup menus of the respective Blu-ray discs. I also have the DVD Superbit version of The Fifth Element and have no trouble selecting the DTS soundtrack. I have set the BDP-83 audio out to bitstream.

If the secondary audio is selected to "On" my SSP indicates DTS but according to the manual the output audio is DTS as the Oppo mixes the sources and outputs DTS.

Does the Oppo try and query for available audio playback capability from your system and adjust audio selections on the Blu-ray disc menus or are the DTS tracks just not there on the Blu-ray discs?

Or am I missing something?
post #15438 of 38730
Try going into your setup menus for the player and the AVR and turn off HDMI Control. That may solve the projector on problem. For #1, that's just a case of HDMI handshake between components...it's going to happen each time.
post #15439 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

I have the DVD 24fps option turned on, and just to further test it, I pulled one of the oldest discs I have, Ladyhawke from the late '90s. While the picture quality of this disc is one of watching a VHS tape, the player had no problem with the disc except for a second or two at the beginning to lock onto the cadence. I haven't found a DVD disc yet that won't play at this setting.

I've found exactly one and it was on a bonus disk in the Lone Ranger 75th Anniversary box.
post #15440 of 38730
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Originally Posted by CIR-Engineering View Post

I have been searching and haven't seen this issue posted.

I am having trouble with the video from BD being ahead of the audio. There are controls to delay the audio, but this only will make matters worse for me. I need to delay the video, not the audio.

Has anyone else seen trouble with the BDP-83 having the video get ahead of the audio? I have seen this with HDMI and also 8 channel analog audio outputs with BD.

craigr

This is only a guess.
Have you tried turning secondary audio off?
If you have selected source direct as your video output and have secondary audio on there is the possibility that the video and audio may get out of sync as the audio will have additional processing to add the secondary audio in.
This is only a guess.
post #15441 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Waboman View Post

Bizarre behavior. I ejected a movie from my 83. The tray opened, then the display turned off, and I couldn't close the tray using the open/close button. The blue "on" light was still lit on the power button. I had to push the tray close and do a hard shut-off. Any ideas why?

I have had this happen three times, so far. I can't remember if the display turned off or not, though.
post #15442 of 38730
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Originally Posted by pkeegan View Post

I'm having a possible issue with Blu-ray discs, DTS and my Oppo.
Two of my Blu-ray discs , The Fifth Element & The Italian Job, lists DTS audio tracks on their covers but the selection is not available in the audio setup menus of the respective Blu-ray discs. I also have the DVD Superbit version of The Fifth Element and have no trouble selecting the DTS soundtrack. I have set the BD-83 audio out to bitstream.

If the secondary audio is selected to "On" my SSP indicates DTS but according to the manual the output audio is DTS as the Oppo mixes the sources and outputs DTS.

Does the Oppo try and query for available audio playback capability from your system and adjust audio selections on the Blu-ray disc menus or are the DTS tracks just not there on the Blu-ray discs?

Or am I missing something?

You can't do lossless and secondary audio simultaniously. If you want lossless sound, you need to turn SA off.
Don't know where you are seeing DTS for Fifth Element. It has an uncompressed PCM track, and a TrueHD track... no DTS.
post #15443 of 38730
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

SACD and DVD-A will set the player's resolution to 1080 regardless of the user settings. This is required for HDMI output.


This is a very cool feature......
post #15444 of 38730
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by jake51 View Post

I have a USB key with three .avi files on it
The Oppo will play only one of these
Both my computer and the media player in my flatscreen can play all three files
What can the problem be?

Not all forms of DivX or XviD files will work. For example, I have some encodes of Lovely Complex (the animation, not the Japanese live action) series. Only select couple will playback on the BDP-83 correctly. The ones that don't will skip around 10~20 seconds after playing several seconds. If I play the same files on the PS3, the PS3 will load the files which the BDP-83 played back correctly, while the other files will not load at all.

A PC and a media device designed for media streaming will be much more forgiving when it comes to incorrect encoding and error correction.
post #15445 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

You can't do lossless and secondary audio simultaniously. If you want lossless sound, you need to turn SA off.
Don't know where you are seeing DTS for Fifth Element. It has an uncompressed PCM track, and a TrueHD track... no DTS.

You are correct on the sound track for The Fifth Element Blu-ray. My mistake.
I got confused between the DVD and Blu-ray covers.

The Italian Job Blu-ray does list a DTS track but it isn't available as a selection in the audio setup. This disc is my only Blu-ray disc with DTS listed on its cover.

So back to the question does the BDP-83 limit audio selection choices of a Blu-ray disc's audio selections based on an HDMI query to attached equipment or is the DTS tract just not on the disc?

Thanks.
post #15446 of 38730
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by achilles78 View Post

First issue is that turning on or off the projector causes the sound to pause for a couple of seconds. This is a minor annoyance.

Unfortunately this will happen because the HDMI handshakes will effect the entire HDMI signal, not just the video.

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Second is that using my new Oppo BDP-83 I get no audio when the projector is switched off.

This is going to be a problem with most modern receivers if the projector always has an "active" HDMI input. What happens is the receiver will not want to handshake the video portion of the HDMI signal if the receiver believes there is a downstream device which can accept the signal. The problem with this is that if the HDCP key does not get back to the BDP-83 (which it would if some device was handshaking the video signal) then the player will discontinue sending out a usable signal over HDMI until the HDCP key can be resolved.
post #15447 of 38730
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by pkeegan View Post

So back to the question does the BDP-83 limit audio selection choices of a Blu-ray disc's audio selections based on an HDMI query to attached equipment ...

No.

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or is the DTS tract just not on the disc?

It is either not there because it is not on the disc, or you are not properly navigating the menus.

Press INFO (Display) to bring up the OPPO OSD. Press the Audio button. At the bottom left hand corner of your display, do you ever see the DTS track appear? If yes, when using this track, what does the front panel of your receiver show?
post #15448 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Daryl L View Post

Anybody using a harmony/logitec remote with this player? If so did you have to program the remote codes in or select a previous OPPO player model number during setup? Thx for any info.

I have been using an 880. Most of the codes came from the Logitech site. Dimmer and color buttons were not included and needed learning. I tend to use the OPPO remote for player adjustments and the Harmony for routine use.

Dave
post #15449 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

No.



It is either not there because it is not on the disc, or you are not properly navigating the menus.

Press INFO (Display) to bring up the OPPO OSD. Press the Audio button. At the bottom left hand corner of your display, do you ever see the DTS track appear? If yes, when using this track, what does the front panel of your receiver show?

I have tried cycling through the audio selections using the audio button as well as Blu-ray disc audio setup menu. DTS never appears. Must be a misprint on the Blu-ray jacket.

Thanks.
post #15450 of 38730
I am very happy with my OPPO but I wish they would soon implement Multichannel test tones. In the meantime, does anyone know a simple program that I could use just to balance my speakers?
Thank you.
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