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post #16981 of 38730
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Originally Posted by tlc828 View Post

Has anyone else had trouble playing the BluRay of Chris Botti Live In Boston? I can play it in 2 channel stereo but if you pick multi channel lpcm the sound goes nuts. The picture plays, but the sound gets screwed up.

Did you mean 7.1 Dolby TrueHD? The sound plays fine on my side... in fact, I just started it right before I read your message.

Or, did you mean the older "Chris Botti Live" Blu-ray with multichannels LPCM track? I have tried it the other day and it played fine.
post #16982 of 38730
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Originally Posted by munich12 View Post

How do I know if they r 24Hz encoded? Even if they r 24hz encoded how does Oppo play Mkv file in native resolution? How do I get Oppo to play my 1080p mkv files back in 1080p ?

I'm currently successful playing back 720p MKV out as 720p. (I only have a 720p display and it does not accept 1080p.) I'm not sure what the specific issue would be for you. It may be the application that is splitting the file that is messing things up. (no idea)
post #16983 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Press the INFO (Display) button. What shows at the bottom right hand corner of your television? This is the frame rate of the source material. If it says anything like "23.976" or "24" you will need to wait for a new firmware release.

And as long as the output resolution is set to 1080p, the decoder should be decoding at 1080p. I personally do not use the BDP-83 for video media (as soft subs are useless), so don't really know how poor the performance of the BDP-83 is in regard to MKV encoding.

when I press the Display button it does not show like 23.976 or 24 , it shows AVC Movie.
post #16984 of 38730
Thread Starter 
Could have sworn you could check the frequency of external media. If that is the case, then you will have to use something like GSpot Codec Tools or mkvinfo GUI to see what the encoding frequency (frames per second) the video portion is encoded at.
post #16985 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Jack D View Post

I can't explain the instability but when I used the analog outs I noticed a difference in the volume. I learned that I had to adjust the sensitivity setting for analog inputs in my processor. Have you checked if there is an adjustment like this in your processor?

Hi Jack D, if you see my later posts, I was able to id the source of the problem and the cause. My surround processor, B&K Ref 50 S2 causes the volume drop when the coax setting is set to Bitstream. That's the way it is. So, I will leave it at LPCM. Then there is no volume drop.
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Has anyone else had problems with the -83 and harmony one?Every time I think I got it,it missfires again,it works right for a day or two,then acts up again,it wont turn on with the activity button or off with the off button,help works most of the time,but at times it won't work,last nite turned everything on and off every which way,and worked great,tonite back to screwing up,i have tried messing with delays,i have tried setting the -83 ir code to 1,2 and 3 and whatever else i can think to try,but always the same thing
post #16987 of 38730
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Originally Posted by GRUNT3 View Post

Has anyone else had problems with the -83 and harmony one?

Harmony One works with the BDP-83 for me.
post #16988 of 38730
Probably a bad battery in the Harmony. If it's under warranty, I would try for a claim.
post #16989 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Could have sworn you could check the frequency of external media. If that is the case, then you will have to use something like GSpot Codec Tools or mkvinfo GUI to see what the encoding frequency (frames per second) the video portion is encoded at.

The frequency only shows for blu-rays.
post #16990 of 38730
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Many people in your situation seem to be very happy with MC-SACD. There may be some other explanation for what you are hearing.

I have a similar setup except that the Denon 3806 passes two HDMI inputs to one output. I use an OPPO three/one switch.

I'm using default audio settings except where noted below. I keep all my HDMI cables connected and never turn on our 8G Kuro when I play music.

Secondary Audio > OFF
Down Mix Mode > 5.1ch
Dynamic Range > OFF

Network Setup:
BD-Live Network Access > OFF
(I blame everything on BD-Live!)

I think that there is a link to the default setting in the first post of this thread, or in the FAQ which is also linked there.

Of course, I haven't had to solve any problems with our BDP-83 and the way it works in our setup. Once I hooked up the analog stereo outputs, I haven't been interested in any other connections for the type of music that we enjoy.

Note: I did use Blue Jeans Cable's best 2' interconnects to connect the 83 to the 3806.


Thanks htwaits;
We'll as you are using stereo vs MC-SACD, I asume you prefer it to MC as well as I do. If I did not have my stereo-SACD only Sony to compare it with, maybe I would think the MC-SACD was good. My next experiment will be removing the Gefen HDMI switcher and running straight to the projector to see if that keeps the pops/clicks at bay.

Today I played with DVD-Audio. No clicks or pops through the MC analog output with DVD-Audio like SACD with either MC or stero analog outs. However it seems to be missing base. I believe I've read that the Subwofer output is something like -10 db on DVD-Audio. If this is correct, I think I will stick with the Sony for audio. It doesn't do DVD audio, but playing it through digital coax sounds better then the thin presentation I'm getting here. Yes I could re-adjust the sub level every time I play DVD-Audio, but that is a pain, and I don't know if the sonic improvement would be there/worth the hastlle (I don't have that many DVD-Audio disc's).

The old Sony 9000ES isn't state of the art for DVD playback, but it seems to more then hold it's own for audio, so the simplest solution seems to just keep using it as my audio deck and the Oppo BDP-83 for DVD/BR.
Again, Thanks for the input and help - PK
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Can the BDP-83's Ethernet port be used with NAS server with movies (not bluray, just regular DVDs)? If yes, then what format of movies is supported? If no, is there a possibility of this feature in later firmware updates?

Thank you!
post #16992 of 38730
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Originally Posted by gevorg View Post

Can the BDP-83's Ethernet port be used with NAS server with movies (not bluray, just regular DVDs)? If yes, then what format of movies is supported? If no, is there a possibility of this feature in later firmware updates?

Nope. FAQ: What network functions are supported?

Mike

p.s. Many thanks to Bill for the wonderful FAQ!
post #16993 of 38730
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Originally Posted by GRUNT3 View Post

Has anyone else had problems with the -83 and harmony one?Every time I think I got it,it missfires again,it works right for a day or two,then acts up again,it wont turn on with the activity button or off with the off button,help works most of the time,but at times it won't work,last nite turned everything on and off every which way,and worked great,tonite back to screwing up,i have tried messing with delays,i have tried setting the -83 ir code to 1,2 and 3 and whatever else i can think to try,but always the same thing

No issue here, either. Make sure you setup the -83 device in the harmony software to use the discreet on/off codes instead of the power toggle approach. Things will work a lot smoother that way. Especially, if you like ejecting the tray from the player face controls to place a disk in, then grab the H1 to switch to the -83 activity.

Mike
post #16994 of 38730
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Originally Posted by FTWMike View Post

Nope. FAQ: What network functions are supported?

Mike

p.s. Many thanks to Bill for the wonderful FAQ!

Back to HTPC.
post #16995 of 38730
Anyone know the remote code for this player for pionner elite receiver?
post #16996 of 38730
Greetings.
I am also a new owner of this great BD player.
I have it mainly set-up correctly through my Rotel 1067 which is a bit dated and does not have HDMI, so I am passing the video direct to the display and for BD play-back am using the analogue 7.1 outputs.
As these inputs on the Rotel are 'pass through' I cannot calibrate the speakers using the inbuilt pink noise generater. So I purchased Avia II so I could use the test tones included on this disk.
However, to my dismay it only will do 5.1 test tones and you have to use your amp/reciever 'ES matrix' system to calibrate a 6.1/7.1 system. So I still cannot check my rear surround speaker levels.
So how have people been calibrating thier speaker levels in a 7.1 analoge set up? Is there actually a disk out there that has this?
Cheers and thanks for any replies/ help.
Rob
post #16997 of 38730
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Originally Posted by DrumTemp View Post

Hi Larry,

Yes, the Pioneer features SVM and a "thingie" called PureCinema (taking 24fps and converting to 30fps--or something like that.)--I have those outputs turned off.
I have Comcast HD, and watched the cable tech check for the highest resolution on my set--the screen showed 1080i--plus, Comcast HD looks good--and so does blu-ray!

What I'm seeing is picture break-up at the top of my screen and going down ~4 inches (the size of a black horizontal bar) when ever there is glaring (literally) contrast within the picture ((the plane ride, chapter 16, in Pearl Harbor is one example. Gondolf's (sp) rescue at the beginning of his ride down the mountain towards the Orks with the sun glaring in their faces (Lord of the Rings--Two Towers)). This is all with the 83 set at 480p and C&B set to default (0) as mentioned previously.

It is odd the Oppo DV-980 worked beautifully with my tv, and not this 83 with the same settings. Right now that's all I have to reference, but I'm trying to set up a get together with my neighbor and try the 83 on his plasma.

Thanks.

Hmmm. That's a tough one to diagnose. It's possible that when the TV is trying to display something bright it stresses the power supply. If you can get rid of it by dialing down just contrast on the Oppo you shouldn't adversely affect things. Check the calibration with the S&M test patterns. If you still can't fix, try dialing down brightness on the player and hopefully you can still get the full grayscale ramps and keep them smooth. It would be interesting to see the voltage levels and/or video timing info of the component outputs of the Oppo compared to your cable box at 480p. Did you try switching inputs with the cable box? Hopefully you can get setup so that it works and has proper calibration for both BD and SD. It's an interesting problem.

larry
post #16998 of 38730
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Originally Posted by loonski View Post

Oppo has responded: "Our current assumption is that the HDMI handshakes (particularly related to random HDCP checks) are causing the issue, as in most reports removing the HDMI cable from the back of the BDP-83 resolved the audio errors."

I am using HDMI for video only, connected to the DWIN TV4 Scaler via an HDMI->DVI adaptor. I am not sure what, if any, handshaking is going on, but this may be the reason I am having the SACD noise problems, and some do and some don't. At least, Oppo has recognized the problem and seems to be working on it for a fix.

Just a thought about this 'snap,crackle and pops' some users are experiencing with sacd's. Since Oppo thinks its a handshaking issue, is it possible that the 'cec' function may be enabled in one or more of the components in the hdmi chain. The 83 has its cec disabled by default, but another component like a receiver or display may have its cec enabled.
The cec control may be buried in the set-up menu and called something other than 'cec'. On my Panasonic plasma its called 'viera link'.
I am not an expert like a lot of the beta testers, so feel free to correct me, but I was having problems related to the 'cec' function causing audio drop outs, etc., before I disabled it in all my components.
Tom
post #16999 of 38730
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Originally Posted by tlc828 View Post

Has anyone else had trouble playing the BluRay of Chris Botti Live In Boston? I can play it in 2 channel stereo but if you pick multi channel lpcm the sound goes nuts. The picture plays, but the sound gets screwed up.

I had no problems with this disc.
post #17000 of 38730
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Originally Posted by GRUNT3 View Post

Has anyone else had problems with the -83 and harmony one?Every time I think I got it,it missfires again,it works right for a day or two,then acts up again,it wont turn on with the activity button or off with the off button,help works most of the time,but at times it won't work,last nite turned everything on and off every which way,and worked great,tonite back to screwing up,i have tried messing with delays,i have tried setting the -83 ir code to 1,2 and 3 and whatever else i can think to try,but always the same thing

You may have already considered this: If devices are out of sync, i.e., you've turned off the device without using the activity button or "Off" button, then when you turn off an activity it goes on and vice-a-versa. My Harmony One works flawlessly with the BDP-83. Hope this was helpful.
Best,
Richard
post #17001 of 38730
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Originally Posted by loonski View Post

Hi Jack D, if you see my later posts, I was able to id the source of the problem and the cause. My surround processor, B&K Ref 50 S2 causes the volume drop when the coax setting is set to Bitstream. That's the way it is. So, I will leave it at LPCM. Then there is no volume drop.

Glad you sorted it out.
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Can somebody remind me what codes the Oppo is compatible with (eg. Panasonic, etc.). I need to program the 83 into my Onkyo, and I would prefer not to go custom.

Had my first glitch last night. Played a SACD in DSD, then a DVD Audio. The receiver stayed in DSD mode; had to switch to another input then back to DVD.

I really like the feature where the machine remembers where you are on a disc. Put in Blade Runner, and did not have to watch all the intro warnings.
post #17003 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

I would notice this. But there are several reasons why I am may not. One is that my projector is not prone to displaying errors related to incorrect colorspace, conversions or inability to display more minor changes in the gamma (which is why end users may not see it); the second is that this issue was actually resolved in the current Beta Test (non-public) firmware, as there were some changes done behind the scenes as to how DVD is processed through the ABT (which is why other Beta Testers may not report seeing the same issue).

If you use 480p, disable Deep Color, and change to YCbCr 4:2:2, do you see the same macroblocking?

I did more testing last night, and taked to Oppo. I'm running the current production firmware, not a beta.

The macroblocking enhancement problem is tied to YCbCr colorspace (either 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 equally) being used in combination with upconverting to 1080p. When colorspace is changed to RGB, the problem goes away. That's probably why some people haven't seen it.

There is no issue at either 480i or 480p resolution with any colorspace setting.

So, until the private beta is released publicly, anyone using the Oppo for DVD upconversion should select RGB colorspace. If just using the player for Blu-ray (which is unaffected) or playing DVDs with Source Direct output, YCbCr is fine.
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Originally Posted by GRUNT3 View Post

Has anyone else had problems with the -83 and harmony one?Every time I think I got it,it missfires again,it works right for a day or two,then acts up again,it wont turn on with the activity button or off with the off button,help works most of the time,but at times it won't work,last nite turned everything on and off every which way,and worked great,tonite back to screwing up,i have tried messing with delays,i have tried setting the -83 ir code to 1,2 and 3 and whatever else i can think to try,but always the same thing

I had some issues using a Harmony 880 with this player. On selected Blu-rays (Lost Season 1, in particular), one button press of the directional arrows would move the selection 2 or 3 times. On some menus, it was impossible to highlight a desired selection, because it would always jump past the item I wanted.

I fixed this by going into the Harmony setup software and decreasing the signal strength. That option was found in the Troubleshooting guide.
post #17005 of 38730
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Originally Posted by GRUNT3 View Post

Has anyone else had problems with the -83 and harmony one?Every time I think I got it,it missfires again,it works right for a day or two,then acts up again,it wont turn on with the activity button or off with the off button,help works most of the time,but at times it won't work,last nite turned everything on and off every which way,and worked great,tonite back to screwing up,i have tried messing with delays,i have tried setting the -83 ir code to 1,2 and 3 and whatever else i can think to try,but always the same thing

works fine for me. you using an IR distribution system or just pointing it at the front of the unit?
post #17006 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

...So, until the private beta is released publicly, anyone using the Oppo for DVD upconversion should select RGB colorspace....

Not sure such a blanket statement is necessary. Those of us that aren't having any problems with the color space are doing just fine, and always have been.
post #17007 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

That post was not the post you were looking for *Jedi Mind Trick*

I was making a new thread in the "secret" thread and got the two windows mixed up.

Oh, the suspense!

Is/was there a problem with the newest "experimental" firmware? I followed that link last night and downloaded it from Oppo's site with the intention of unzipping it this morning. However, I fouled it up and deleted it from my PC with the intention of downloading it again. Now your link is gone, and no matter how much I search Oppo's site I cannot locate it.

Has Oppo deleted it, or what? I sure wanted to try it out and see if I could watch my "12 Rounds" BR!

EDIT: OK, I found the .zip file in my recycle bin (DUH!) and unzipped it to my thumb drive. I found, however, unlike the previous firmware update that once unzipped I have only the BD-P83.bin file (dated 07/15), but no DVD.BIN nor MCU83-1.BIN files. Is this correct?
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i haven't played around much with it, but i'm definitely having a weird problem with the Mad Men - Season 2, Disc 1 [Blu-ray]. i selected Set Up to see which audio tracks were available and all the options just wizzed by and the Set Up menu closed up and i was back on Top Menu in no time. same thing while trying to select a specific episode. i see all the options flip by really quickly and close up again. it's not a huge problem (i can probably switch audio tracks on the fly and same thing for individual episodes) but i don't think i've seen it mentioned here before so i thought i'd document it and see what folks had to say (as i'll rent the rest of the set at some point in the coming weeks, as well).

thank you very much.

ps. i have the Lionsgate edition. dunno if they own it in the States as well.
post #17009 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Lloyd-TX View Post

Is/was there a problem with the newest "experimental" firmware? I followed that link last night and downloaded it from Oppo's site with the intention of unzipping it this morning. However, I fouled it up and deleted it from my PC with the intention of downloading it again. Now your link is gone, and no matter how much I search Oppo's site I cannot locate it.

Has Oppo deleted it, or what? I sure wanted to try it out and see if I could watch my "12 Rounds" BR!

Patience. It was meant for the beta group only. 12 ROUNDS will be available to everyone soon.

-Bill
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

12 ROUNDS will be available to everyone soon.

-Bill

Finally I can sleep at night.
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