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Originally Posted by coasterguy View Post

Yes your right. I now recall that I wanted to put the Panny under the cable box but because of it size it would not work. i can put the oppo below the cable box.

That's better.

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Or I can put the oppo on top of my sunfire receiver.....

Not better.

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That gets hot when used though and I think it should breathe too..

Right.

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it is an antique wardrobe from early 1900 Ireland and I added shelves to it to accommodate my whole theatre setup and it is pretty cool.

If your haven't already, you might want to look into some exaust fans for your "cool" wardrobe. Then it would be even cooler.
post #17372 of 38730
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Originally Posted by coasterguy View Post

Yes your right. I now recall that I wanted to put the Panny under the cable box but because of it size it would not work. i can put the oppo below the cable box. Or I can put the oppo on top of my sunfire receiver..... That gets hot when used though and I think it should breathe too.. ug... This is the only cabinet I have and I sort made it... it is an antique wardrobe from early 1900 Ireland and I added shelves to it to accommodate my whole theatre setup and it is pretty cool.. Thanks guys. Ill switch it now.

I would recommend against putting anything on top of a receiver or a cable box. Anything. Those are going to be the two hottest-running components you have (a separate power amp would belong in the same list). I'd set it under the cable box if there's no other place.
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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

Do a Google search for the 4.1 DVD-A version of this album, and download it, burning it to a DVD disc. I think you'll like that rendition even more, especially the Us and Them cut.

I went to the effort to find a safe way to download this and it was well worth the effort. I just finished listening to it - it was a nice way to end the day.
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That might be the best looking set of replies I have ever seen in a forum!
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I ended up putting BDP-83 under the comcast box. I also added four little "feet" from ace hardware under each foot of hte comcast box so there is now nearly 1" of space between it and the BDP-83. Plus I leave the cabinet open and the back is cut out of it too. I think this is good. I would post a pic but, I do not know how... hahaha thanks
post #17376 of 38730
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Originally Posted by coasterguy View Post

I would post a pic but, I do not know how..

Click on the FAQ tab above, then click the link that says "Reading and Posting Messages," then click on the link that says "Images and Attachments." That'll get you going in no time.
post #17377 of 38730
I swear you could fry an egg on my brothers comcrap dvr. Funny thing is he has not had it die yet after a year, so maybe they are designed to be that way. No way in hell I would put anything I liked on top of one, though....
post #17378 of 38730
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Originally Posted by CCONKLIN1 View Post

I swear you could fry an egg on my brothers comcrap dvr. Funny thing is he has not had it die yet after a year, so maybe they are designed to be that way. No way in hell I would put anything I liked on top of one, though....

+1 open air...
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Please accept my thanks in advance if the owners of the BDP-83 can respond to the following two questions. I also apologize if this was already covered in this thread, but it is difficult, to say the least, to read through all 581 pages!

(1) HDCD -- When the 970HD plays a CD with some tracks encoded in HDCD and some that are not, it seamlessly plays the tracks, and indicates on the screen which are HDCD and which aren't. By contrast, one of the successor units to the 970HD had a gap of 3 to 5 seconds of silence while it indicated that the track was HDCD. I returned that unit, as it made an HDCD CD unplayable, or at least one which a mix of both types of tracks.

How does the BDP-83 with the latest firmware handle a CD with a mix of HDCD and non-HDCD tracks? Does it play them seamlessly? Or does it hiccup and pause for a few seconds while it figures out and reports on the HDCD status of each track?

(2) I'm considering the purchase of a D-Box system, but first must determine it is compatible with a Lexicon MC-12 HD. The Lexicon does not include the codecs or decoders for Doby True HD or DTS-HD or DTS Master. Those must be decoded in the Blue-Ray player, and then sent to the Lexicon as PCM. I would prefer to not sacrifice the the high end codecs via PCM.

On the other hand, the D-Box controller doesn't work with PCM, and must receive a bitstream signal that is encoded with Dolby 5.1 or Pro Logic or the equivalent.

Does the new Oppo Blu-ray allow for PCM to be output via HDMI (so that the Lexicon can play back a high def format like Doby TrueHD), but still send a bitstream Pro Logic or 5.1 signal via the optical or coax output -- even if the HDMI output is set to PCM (so it will work with the D-Box controller)?

That would be ideal -- sending HDMI PCM output to the Lexicon, and sending optical bitsteam to the D-Box.

Or, if PCM is selected for HDMI, does that turn off bitstream for the optical or coax output?

(I also posted this in a D-Box thread but did not get a definitive answer from anyone who has actually used the new Oppo Blu-Ray, so am also posting here in the hope that someone who owns the new Oppo can respond.)

Many thanks for any responses to my questions.
post #17380 of 38730
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Originally Posted by coasterguy View Post

I ended up putting BDP-83 under the comcast box. I also added four little "feet" from ace hardware under each foot of hte comcast box so there is now nearly 1" of space between it and the BDP-83. Plus I leave the cabinet open and the back is cut out of it too. I think this is good. I would post a pic but, I do not know how... hahaha thanks

I was going to suggest the stick on rubber feet trick. I have used it myself, with feet from Ace Hdw. I have stacked up to 3 stick-on feet together to provide space for breathing. Audiophiles may laugh at this low-tech solution, but it works.

You really should think about putting a fan in your cabinet. I recommend putting the fan in the bottom, or lower back, and having it blow in, drawing through a filter. That way, it will work with the natural rise of the heat, and blow clean air out of the cracks, instead of drawing dust in through them.
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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

Do a Google search for the 4.1 DVD-A version of this album, and download it, burning it to a DVD disc. I think you'll like that rendition even more, especially the Us and Them cut.

Haven't heard the 4.1 DVD-A version of DSOTM. The 25th anniversary SACD M-CH in 5.1 edition, IMO, is outstanding.
Best,
Richard
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Originally Posted by mdLCD View Post

Casino Royale 1080p is over 12GB. How did you manage to put it on the flash drive since it has to be formatted to FAT32 and only reads up to 4GB.

The 1080p file was 12gb, then I split it into 3 smaller mkv files and burned them to dvd5 using mkvmerge GUI. All my 720p mkv files play perfectly but, alot of 1080p Mkv files don't play correctly.
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Originally Posted by jnaks View Post

Most likely with BD-RE or DVD-R DL if he has the smaller version. For the record, several of the MKVs I own play great with great sound Bolt, Casino Royale, etc. I didn't notice any of the artifacts that he seems to have.

I wonder if it may be a buffer/processing issue where it couldn't handle the data bandwidth required and left patches unrendered/underrendered.

Is your casino royale 720p or 1080p? The 720p files have no problem but the 1080p. I just split 11gb Training day 1080p mkv file into 3 dvd and burned them and they don't play correctly, black spots on the screen.
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Originally Posted by coasterguy View Post

I also added four little "feet" from ace hardware under each foot of hte comcast box so there is now nearly 1" of space between it and the BDP-83.

In the past I've done the same thing.
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Folks please take a look

Display NEC 50XR5 720pplasma, that I am pretty familiar with and is a solid PQ performer connected directly via HDMI reseated cables / different cables etc...

Do your menus look like this? With the light background bars? HDMI Color Space Set to Auto.
BTW with these settings the PLUGE Low is correctly displayed
The first shows also shows the red streaking/ghosting/bleeding I am getting often on the menu. I also often see the red ghosting on other items such as busy Icons etc, however when playing a BD disc at 24hz I do not see this when I bring up the setup menu. (please excuse poor quality images, but they do show they effects)
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or this...HDMI Colorspace incorrectly set to HDMI RGB PC
Menus have no background, however S&M PLuge LOW is NOT correctly displayed
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Particularly Bad Red Streaking
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Clean Menu during playback....clean meaning grayish bar but not red streaking/bleeding.
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Looking for someone to confirm what the menus should look like (background or no background), plus any ideas on the red bleeding would be much appreciated.
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post #17386 of 38730
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Originally Posted by originalsnuffy View Post

On the Dark Side SACD, I definitely heard things in the mix with the 83 that I never heard before. As a hifi magazine might say...."very detailed presentation".

I'm blown away by how my SACD's/DVD-a's & DTS surround discs sound on this player (just got mine last Thursday).
Like listening to some of my music for the first time.
I have yet to listen to Dark Side, but will do so tonight.
No issues whatsoever yet with the player.
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Originally Posted by kjbawc View Post

I was going to suggest the stick on rubber feet trick. I have used it myself, with feet from Ace Hdw. I have stacked up to 3 stick-on feet together to provide space for breathing. Audiophiles may laugh at this low-tech solution, but it works.

You really should think about putting a fan in your cabinet. I recommend putting the fan in the bottom, or lower back, and having it blow in, drawing through a filter. That way, it will work with the natural rise of the heat, and blow clean air out of the cracks, instead of drawing dust in through them.

I use hockey pucks to separate my components. They are cheap and work great. Extra space for air and for cleaning.
post #17388 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Marty M View Post

(1) HDCD -- When the 970HD plays a CD with some tracks encoded in HDCD and some that are not, it seamlessly plays the tracks, and indicates on the screen which are HDCD and which aren't. By contrast, one of the successor units to the 970HD had a gap of 3 to 5 seconds of silence while it indicated that the track was HDCD. I returned that unit, as it made an HDCD CD unplayable, or at least one which a mix of both types of tracks.

How does the BDP-83 with the latest firmware handle a CD with a mix of HDCD and non-HDCD tracks? Does it play them seamlessly? Or does it hiccup and pause for a few seconds while it figures out and reports on the HDCD status of each track?

I've never tried such a disc, so don't know how it handles them. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by Marty M View Post

(2) Does the new Oppo Blu-ray allow for PCM to be output via HDMI (so that the Lexicon can play back a high def format like Doby TrueHD), but still send a bitstream Pro Logic or 5.1 signal via the optical or coax output -- even if the HDMI output is set to PCM (so it will work with the D-Box controller)?

Yes. The optical and coaxial outputs are controlled by one menu setting, while the HDMI audio output is controlled by another. You can set HDMI out to LPCM and have the digital audio output set to bitstream.
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Has anyone who has Haunting in Connecticut looked to see if they get the same issue as I am having.

It is either a problem with my disc, and the Oppo is more sensitive to manufacturing defects than the PS3 (cleaning the disc made no difference), or there is a fault witht he player itself.

I have emailed Oppo who suggest I send the disc to them, but I wanted to know if it is just me experiencing this issue first.
post #17390 of 38730
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Originally Posted by achilles78 View Post

Has anyone who has Haunting in Connecticut looked to see if they get the same issue as I am having.

It is either a problem with my disc, and the Oppo is more sensitive to manufacturing defects than the PS3 (cleaning the disc made no difference), or there is a fault witht he player itself.

I have emailed Oppo who suggest I send the disc to them, but I wanted to know if it is just me experiencing this issue first.

have you read through ther last few pages of this thread at all?

you have to contact oppo and get the link to download the experimental firmware if you want to watch haunting or 12 rounds.....search is your friend...
post #17391 of 38730
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Originally Posted by dtrell View Post

have you read through ther last few pages of this thread at all?

you have to contact oppo and get the link to download the experimental firmware if you want to watch haunting or 12 rounds.....search is your friend...

I HAVE the experimental firmware. The disc does play, but if you read what I originally posted I experience a short period of glitching at 33:48 whilst watching the disc. It sounds like the player is struggling to read it properly at that point as the transport is more noisy. No such problems on the PS3 and I have also just tested the disc in my PC Blu-ray drive and it reads flawlessly as well.

I'm not sure if the point where the problem occurs corresponds to a layer change. Seems unlikely as it is in the middle of a scene.
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Originally Posted by coasterguy View Post

I ended up putting BDP-83 under the comcast box. I also added four little "feet" from ace hardware under each foot of hte comcast box so there is now nearly 1" of space between it and the BDP-83. Plus I leave the cabinet open and the back is cut out of it too. I think this is good. I would post a pic but, I do not know how... hahaha thanks

I have my FIOS DVR (which almost identical to the Comcast, since they use Motorola also) that way (on top of my BDP-83) and I have no problems.
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Originally Posted by halsan40 View Post

Where did you find that?....

A Forum member sent me a disc, but do a Google search for "DSOTM 4.1 DVD-A", and you'll be able to find it on the web as others have. It has a different mix than the SACD version, obviously without center channel, and is said to have been a quadraphonic version that was never released. There's a thread for it in the Surround Music Formats section of this Forum.
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

I went to the effort to find a safe way to download this and it was well worth the effort. I just finished listening to it - it was a nice way to end the day.

Glad you enjoyed it! Can you post the download link for others?
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Originally Posted by Marty M View Post

(1) HDCD -- When the 970HD plays a CD with some tracks encoded in HDCD and some that are not, it seamlessly plays the tracks, and indicates on the screen which are HDCD and which aren't. By contrast, one of the successor units to the 970HD had a gap of 3 to 5 seconds of silence while it indicated that the track was HDCD. I returned that unit, as it made an HDCD CD unplayable, or at least one which a mix of both types of tracks.

How does the BDP-83 with the latest firmware handle a CD with a mix of HDCD and non-HDCD tracks? Does it play them seamlessly? Or does it hiccup and pause for a few seconds while it figures out and reports on the HDCD status of each track?

Can you provide some examples of CD's that have a mix of HDCD and non-HDCD tracks? If I have any of them, I'd be happy to test it out for you and report back. If I don't have any of the CD's, and you would like to you could send me one to test and I'll send it back to you.
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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

Glad you enjoyed it! Can you post the download link for others?

I'm not sure that the moderators would be keen on me doing that - if the moderators don't mind I'd be happy to.
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The SACD version of DSOTM is much more satisfying. As a Floyd fan, I did have the original SQ quad disc (both the German and British mixes), which is think is the source for the DVD Audio that floats on the web. The SACD version is slightly different, but in my opinion way better. Much more detail. And of course the center channel is not an afterthought.

Plus the artist and label get some royalties for the SACD version.
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

Display type and model is crucial for any diagnosis. I know the Beck BD is 1080i60 and I'm pretty sure the Clapton/Winwood is 1080p24 (I have both). So if you have source direct set and a display that does not handle 1080p24 input, it may not work. I don't know what the Oppo does in this case. If I remember I'll throw in the Claption/Winwood BD in my -83 and see what happens. I don't remember what player I used when I watched it last.

larry

Last night I went though my setup menu and turned off the 1080p24 function and everything worked fine. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by darkvisionsinc View Post

I use hockey pucks to separate my components. They are cheap and work great. Extra space for air and for cleaning.

Don Rickles would be proud
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Originally Posted by originalsnuffy View Post

...Plus the artist and label get some royalties for the SACD version.

I own legal versions of the album in all forms, from vinyl to SACD. The artists can't get royalties if the album was never released. This isn't a pirated work as far as I can determine.
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