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post #1741 of 39280
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Originally Posted by geared4me View Post

I'm with you brother! I suggest that everyone who is dissatisfied with the way the lottery for the EAP has been handled (me included) email and call OPPO to let them know.

post #1742 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Ruined View Post

It plays HD DVD?

Wrong universe.
--Bob
post #1743 of 39280
I would hope the Lottery was closed to new entries at the time of the first drawing. I am sure word is getting out regarding this fabulous machine, OPPO still has on their web site the ability for individuals to sign up for additional information to be emailed when it becomes available. Hopefully those that signed up after the first drawing will not be included in the next round of EAPer's.

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Originally Posted by geared4me View Post

I'm with you brother! I suggest that everyone who is dissatisfied with the way the lottery for the EAP has been handled (me included) email and call OPPO to let them know.
post #1744 of 39280
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Originally Posted by ehlarson View Post

Right-o, and how about Laserdisc and RCA Selectavision?

8-track cassettes? Player piano rolls? Dang it's so hard to find a TRULY universal player!


--Bob
post #1745 of 39280
Help me out please, with OPPO's ability to do so many amazing things as it relates to video and audio with the current pre-production BDP-83 machine, what is it with DVD-A that has not allowed it to be implemented yet?
post #1746 of 39280
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Originally Posted by pcdo View Post

Does anyone know if this player has any picture/color adjustment options available?

Yes.

See the first post of this thread, the player manual, and the FAQ.
--Bob
post #1747 of 39280
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Originally Posted by sblasl View Post

Help me out please, with OPPO's ability to do so many amazing things as it relates to video and audio with the current pre-production BDP-83 machine, what is it with DVD-A that has not allowed it to be implemented yet?

Well, some feature had to be last. It was DVD-A's turn.

-Bill
post #1748 of 39280
From a technical stand point, are there hurdles or barriers that make the implementation more difficult than the other audio capabilities?

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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Well, some feature had to be last. It was DVD-A's turn.

-Bill
post #1749 of 39280
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Originally Posted by sblasl View Post

Help me out please, with OPPO's ability to do so many amazing things as it relates to video and audio with the current pre-production BDP-83 machine, what is it with DVD-A that has not allowed it to be implemented yet?

Priorities. The emphasis was placed on getting TrueHD and DTS-HD MA decoding into the EAP firmware release. After all, this IS a Blu-Ray player.

But the audio compression math that underlies TrueHD is the same as used by DVD-A, so DVD-A can't be far behind.
--Bob
post #1750 of 39280
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Originally Posted by sblasl View Post

From a technical stand point, are there hurdles or barriers that make the implementation more difficult than the other audio capabilities?

Nope. DVD-A was just a feature too far for the EAP release. Don't panic. Oppo hears you.
--Bob
post #1751 of 39280
Thank you, Bob.

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Priorities. The emphasis was placed on getting TrueHD and DTS-HD MA decoding into the EAP firmware release. After all, this IS a Blu-Ray player.

But the audio compression math that underlies TrueHD is the same as used by DVD-A, so DVD-A can't be far behind.
--Bob

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Nope. DVD-A was just a feature too far for the EAP release. Don't panic. Oppo hears you.
--Bob
post #1752 of 39280
I voted Yes. I can't think why someone would vote No. This player is more refined than any other BR player I have or had in my possession.

On a side note: the top of the case (but not the front face) is a perfect match to the Memorex 2510; matches every screw hole. Not that there's anything wrong with it.
post #1753 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Stew4msu View Post

Oh brother. And if you would have been chosen as one of the first 50, would you still be sending that Email?

Yes, I would still suggest contacting OPPO directly rather than continue to discuss it in the owners thread. No need to be rude about it.
post #1754 of 39280
patiently waiting for FedEx to show up..... any time now guys!
post #1755 of 39280
Some unnecessary posts removed. Stick to the topic and let's dial down the bickering, please.
post #1756 of 39280
Nine votes - all Yes!!!
post #1757 of 39280
Is CNN going to predict a winner based on exit polls?
--Bob
post #1758 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Is CNN going to predict a winner based on exit polls?
--Bob

They are biased towards things that start with o as it is. jk
post #1759 of 39280
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Originally Posted by jam88 View Post

You can see the specs for the CS4398 stereo DAC on the Cirrus website.

I meant have you located the chip on any of the circuit boards in Scott of Vermont's pictures.

There are a couple of chips on the audio board that look like they might be it, but I can't make out the markings on the top of the chips. I find that curious since Cirrus clearly stamps its DAC chips and the 8-channel chip is prominently stamped.

It could be that the angle of the picture or flash obscured the markings. I was trying to confirm the hardware from Oppo's announcements.
post #1760 of 39280
Is playback of MKV files generally limited to <4GB or is it just if they are through USB (due to the file size limit of FAT/FAT32)?
I guess I'm asking if MKV files >4GB will play if burned to DVD+R.

Thanks
post #1761 of 39280
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Originally Posted by M6450 View Post

Is playback of MKV files generally limited to <4GB or is it just if they are through USB (due to the file size limit of FAT/FAT32)?
I guess I'm asking if MKV files >4GB will play if burned to DVD+R.

Thanks

It's the FAT file limit. I haven't tried a larger file on disc; that would be a good experiment.

ISO9660 also has a 4GB limit, although I read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso9660...ile_size_limit that the level 3 extents feature can get around that.

-Bill
post #1762 of 39280
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

It's the FAT file limit. I haven't tried a larger file on disc; that would be a good experiment.

ISO9660 also has a 4GB limit, although I read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso9660...ile_size_limit that the level 3 extents feature can get around that.

-Bill

Does the BD-83 play file in a directory back to back without pause or returning to the menu. If yes then the simple fact of splitting the file in 4gb block and putting them in the same directory would go around this problem
post #1763 of 39280
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

It's the FAT file limit. I haven't tried a larger file on disc; that would be a good experiment.

ISO9660 also has a 4GB limit, although I read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso9660...ile_size_limit that the level 3 extents feature can get around that.

-Bill

DVD-ROM (UDF), or DVD-ROM (UDF-ISO) would be the way to go. But someone needs to confirm the player can read those.

I'm having a slow day, stay tuned.
post #1764 of 39280
We'll state this again. Do Not post concerning how the EAP was conducted. That topic is closed.

This thread is discuss the technical performance of the new player and associated questions.
post #1765 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Nosferax View Post

Does the BD-83 play file in a directory back to back without pause or returning to the menu. If yes then the simple fact of splitting the file in 4gb block and putting them in the same directory would go around this problem

No, there is a pause between media files. A little 'decoding..." icon displays during the interval.

-Bill
post #1766 of 39280
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

DVD-ROM (UDF), or DVD-ROM (UDF-ISO) would be the way to go. But someone needs to confirm the player can read those.

I'm having a slow day, stay tuned.

From what I have read on google, the dvd-rom implementation of UDF seems to suffer from this limit also. UDF is supposed to go up 2TB but from what I read people were having problem with file > 4GB
post #1767 of 39280
Read the manual and I have a question regarding mix-down configuration support.

My question is:

Can the Oppo speaker config support 4.0 so that any center channel info is moved into the L and R speakers

Background Info


My primary usage for this player would be for multi-channel music via the analog RCA connections. I have an extensive MCH SACD collection and will grow that to include MCH Blue Ray discs over time.

My listening setup is currently all analog. I feed 2 stereo pre-amps directly from my modded Sony CDP with mix-down & bass management. The pre-amps each feed a stereo amp and pair of full range speakers to create an engaging 4.0 MCH listening environment.

Not pretty, I know, but it works and sounds very good. So I'd like to know if the Oppo can directly replace the modded Sony in my system?

Thanks
post #1768 of 39280
Hi All,

I've been following this thread, and might pop for this unit when it's a final (not Beta) product. Could the EAP people please answer:

1. Analog bass management via 7.1: Right now I know 80Hz crossover; but, can you designate which outputs are full range and which use the crossover?

2. How does PQ compare to the Pioneer BDP-09FD? Sony $2K BDP?

3. Does the rear IR input work well? In general, not all do.

4. SACD analog output: Any SQ comparisons to other players?

Thanks for your input!
post #1769 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Nosferax View Post

From what I have read on google, the dvd-rom implementation of UDF seems to suffer from this limit also. UDF is supposed to go up 2TB but from what I read people were having problem with file > 4GB

No. DVD-ROM (UDF) can take larger files, I use it every week for backups. UDF/ISO will not take large files.

I can confirm that the player can read UDF ROM format. I burned a 4400MB VOB file to a DVDRW in UDF format and the player read it almost instantly and playback was a breeze.

Obviously for larger files, a DVD+R dual layer disc would be required but it shouldn't be any problem. I don't feel like wasting a DL disc today to test it.

My assumption would be that a BD disc could also be burned with large files for playback in this manner.
post #1770 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

My understanding is that this is not inherent in DSD itself. In other words, the players could do time alignment on DSD, but few (if any) actually do?

I don't think so. I think pretty much all Digital Signal Processing in players and AVP/AVR's is done in PCM. So, it requires internal conversion from DSD to PCM to do speaker distance compensation, bass management and Audyssey, if you have it, in the DSP. I for one do not believe that this conversion causes any problems whatsoever. Sonically, it's not worth agonizing over. I listen to mostly Mch music on SACD, and it is simply awesome though my AVP using the full DSP treatment within it. The pure DSD fetish just will not die, will it?

That said, you can experiment with having the Oppo do the conversion and transmit PCM to the processor or have the Oppo transmit DSD and have the processor do it. My 980 allows this, and I prefer DSD transmission via HDMI. Others, like Kal Rubinson at Stereophile preferred it the other way. At best, the difference is not huge using the 980. I will be curious how the BDP-83 sounds both ways.
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