Official OPPO BDP-83 Owner's Thread [technical talk only] - Page 60

I stand corrected. I knew that UDF would go past 4gb but like I said some people were having problem burning them... But I didn't read all that much into it. Those may have been annecdotal report... Ah the joy of information fishing on the internet

But of course if Oppo would have made an exception for the poor Canadian that I am and send me a unit I could have tested it myself.

1) yes
2) What PQ? Asked many times in this thread. For DVD, the Oppo players are unsurpassed, period.
3) Read the manual, there are specific differences between this and other IR jacks.
4) Analog audio quality is first rate. Comparisons are subjective, but no doubt there will be some eventually.

I doubt it. The center (and any other speaker) can be turned off, but my assumption is that the channel is simply dropped. Someone who has tested this could chime in here, or you could ask Oppo.

There's nothing inherently problematic in DSD, but current DSP algorithms are based on Fourier transforms and analysis (which gives you frequency information). While PCM lends itself to these techniques readily (PCM constructs samples in a "more natural" manner), none of what is currently used applies to DSD, so every algorithm and technique would have to be worked from the ground up. Algorithms for bass management in DSD, for example, might become excessively complicated and too difficult to implement reliably.

Given the relative obscurity of DSD and omnipresence of PCM, it's just much easier and cost-effective to perform all these operations only with PCM signals, especially since converting from DSD to PCM isn't too bad.

I've read every word and I haven't seen this answered. Sorry if I missed it. Has anyone hooked up a USB device to the 83 and watched a BluRay movie? Or any movie?

I took the time to RTFM, page 58-60. It appears that there's a possibility that the center would be mixed into L-R if you turn it off, but it's not 100% clear in the manual. Check with Oppo for a difinitive answer.

"USB device" is not very specific. The player cannot read or follow disc navigation, menus, etc from USB drives, only specific file types can be played. Read the FAQ and manual for details. Most common file types are supported at HD resolutions.

What kind of device? You mean a Blu-ray disc drive or USB mass storage device? A movie in what format?

-Bill

I took the time to RTFM too. Said so in my opening line. It is not clear. So I am asking here.

Anyone EAPers listen to music w/o a center channel?

Thanks

"What kind of device? You mean a Blu-ray disc drive or USB mass storage device? A movie in what format?"

USB mass storage device, i.e, Thumb drive.

Format ".avi"

I just played Transformers without any problems.

Mine was not a rental disc.

Some of the Netflix discs get pretty beat up, so I suspect it may
be a bad disc.

What is the hdmi spec'd at currently for the BDP 83? Could the spec change?

Since it bitstreams the advanced audio codecs it must be HDMI 1.3 - that capability is not supported by 1.2 or earlier. The chipset determines capability, and is rarely upgradable, so it shall be 1.3 forever.

Since there is nothing higher than 1.3, it doesn't really matter at this stage.

shinksma

"AVI" is a container, not a format. If it's DIVX or one of the popular MPEG-4 formats, there's a chance it will play. Consult the DIVXTest thread, the FAQ and the Oppo manual for specifics once you determine what format video and audio you have.

FedEx just stopped by.

First impressions:
-build quality: wow, simply head and shoulders above the other Oppo players I have. I pulled my 980H off the shelf and replaced it with the BDP-83 and just no comparison here. I was never too impressed with the previous build quality of Oppo players. The 980 was a step up from the 971, but still had room for improvement. I think Oppo got it right this time, especially for a $500 EAP price point.
-setup was simpler than I remember on previous gen Oppo players and more in-depth than the other HD or Blue players I've used, while maintaining a simple elegance.
-The bag is a nice touch.
-The remote is everything it should be. Almost makes me want to keep it handy instead of my Harmony
-I haven't used the included disc, but once again a nice touch.
-I still wish Oppo double-boxed their players, but at the same time they do use boxes of good quality so it isn't absolutely necessary...

I know most people probably went straight to checking out video performance so I may be the odd man out here, but the first disc that went into my Oppo was (and it's still in there!) Bart Millard's Hymned No. 1. I highly recommend this disc to everyone and anyone. A great recording regardless of if you like gospel music or not. I'm playing the DVD side (dual disc) and sounds fantastic.

I first played via HDMI and it sounded good. Maybe slightly better than my 980 playing the same disc (it was playing earlier this morning) but if there was a difference it was subtle and I can't be sure. Besides there shouldn't be much of a difference when using the player as a transport. Then I switched over to the analog output and that's where it's stayed. Right out of the box it sounds great. smooth and extended with sweet highs and mids. lows are deep and tuneful. My speakers are actually digging deeper than usual. I'm very impressed especially since this player hasn't burned in at all yet. I wasn't expecting it to be this good. I'll have to try to do an A/B between my dedicated CDP from my office and the Oppo. Maybe next weekend I'll put the Oppo in my office for a nice listening session with some cans.


Gear being used right now:
Source: Oppo BDP-83
Receiver: Marantz SR7001
Speakers: av123 ELT525T
Associated gear:
Monster HTS5100 (both the Oppo and receiver are plugged into it)
Oppo HDMI switch
Cables:
HDMI is an F2 (I believe) series from BJC
I made the power cables, analog interconnects and speaker cables.

Did not RTFM but, IIRC, Dolby specifies how this should be done. The Center should be added to both L & R channels, @ -3dB, when there is no center channel selected (available). Should be easy to test, set unit to No center channel and invoke the test mode. When the center test tone is selected it should come from the L & R channels.

It's on picture 2631 (the analog section board). If you place your mouse pointer over the left white analog output jack and move it horizontally towards the right and stop at about halfway, there's a 28 pin rectangular chip, just north of big black the electrolytic capacitor (CE97). Logically, that's the only one it can be as the CS4398 is a TSSOP (Thin-Shrink Small Outline Package) with 28 pins. It's just that the light didn't hit it at the proper angle to make the stamp readable.

Is it 1.3 a, b, c?

I would like to know if any of the EAP owners have compared the SD-DVD playback of the Oppo to the Toshiba HD-XA2? This is what impressed me most about the XA2 with the Reon processor. Thanks, Don

What does RTFM stand for?

the Oppo has the best DVD PQ in the world(identical to 983), you can also use it as a high-end 480i 4:2:2 digital transport that comes pretty close to SDI quality

-Gary

This is often referred to a as phantom center channel (CC) in the AVR world; it's pretty basic stuff. Heck, even my 7+ year old Panny decoding DVD player supports this feature and will send the CC audio out the L/F analog outs (on the 5.1 outs). I would hope that Oppo has included this feature. Every AVP/AVR does this. Maybe one of the EAPers can test this quickly...

I have compared both and they are similar as far as the quality
of the upconversion is concerned.

....but after a few days with the Oppo I am starting to prefer it over
the XA2. I really enjoy the image the Oppo puts out. Maybe its just
my preference. To say one is better than the other is difficult because
both are exceptional.

"Read The F'n Manual"

Can the Oppo recognize EXT2 or NTFS file system? If so, you could get past the 4GB barrier of a USB drive. I do know my current BD player supports it, so thought I'd ask.

it will be nice to se how god the decoding in the Oppo is,compared to a decoder in a reciever ore another player

No. This has already been answered.
It's clearly stated in the manual. It's also indicated in Bill McClain's thorough "Unofficial OPPO BDP-83 FAQ":

http://watershade.net/wmcclain/BDP-8...sb-device-work

See the Media Files section of the FAQ: http://watershade.net/wmcclain/BDP-8...ml#media-files and specifically this link: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post15926815

-Bill