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Originally Posted by wrinklefree View Post

For you twitterheads:

http://twitter.com/oppodigital

Oh, now I have to Twitter... wonderful .
post #20102 of 38730
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Originally Posted by iblumberg View Post

Actually, I find that the supplied remote is either weak or directional. I get far better results with my Harmony One.

Something about the setup IS narrow. It's either the remote or the IR sensor on the player. The range of operation was much better with their other players. Personally I use a UR anyway.
post #20103 of 38730
+1 on the Harmony One... I can bounce the beam from that thing off the carpet and it finds all my components, across the room (15+ feet) and in a cabinet... with the 141 hanging over the fireplace 5 feet up and 3 feet left of the cabinet
post #20104 of 38730
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Originally Posted by ThePrisoner View Post

I just started listening to Stone Temple Pilots on DVD-Audio. Snap crackles through-out. The funny thing is I have had my player for 2 weeks. Never had a problem playing this disc before I upgraded hto 0805 firmware. I was on the last official firmware before. I wonder if I go back if it will correct. I only upgraded to 0805 because I rented the BD of Haunting In Connecticut, which I haven't watched yet.

HDMI chain: BDP-83>Denon AVR 3808CI>Panasonic 50PZ800U. My display is always off when listening to SACD/DVD-Audio

UPDATE: I went back to the latest official firmware and I hear no R/K effect on the DVD-Audio.

Is my memory faulty or is this the first reported "R/K effect" for a DVD-Audio disk? I thought it had been isolated to SA-CD up until now.

Mike
post #20105 of 38730
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Originally Posted by iblumberg View Post

In the name of stating the obvious:

4) Clean the disc.

5) Upgrade to latest (08/05 Experimental) FW.
post #20106 of 38730
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Originally Posted by FTWMike View Post

Is my memory faulty or is this the first reported "R/K effect" for a DVD-Audio disk? I thought it had been isolated to SA-CD up until now.

Mike

I've never heard R/K effect on SACD with my 83. Today is the first time when playing DVD-Audio. I'm going to try it again tomorrow with 0805 firmware.
post #20107 of 38730
Audioholics posted a supplemental review (a second look) of the 83 today.

A quote: "......I can't think of a better product at even 5x the cost."

Within 30 seconds of power up, a BD disc was playing the first chapter with True HD audio. Quote: "I currently have a $4,500 Blu-ray player in for review that takes longer just to open the tray to insert the disc."

I guess that this would be the Denon, right ???

www.audioholics.com/
post #20108 of 38730
I wish this player was $100 less.
post #20109 of 38730
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Originally Posted by iblumberg View Post

In the name of stating the obvious:

4) Clean the disc.

I've gotten some discs from Netflix that looked OK, but wouldn't play in my PS3 until I gave them a thorough wipe.

;-)

I read a story on the Netflix processing and they stated that all the disks get a quick wipe. I can tell you that none of the disks I ever get have 'a quick wipe'. Most look like they have been dragged through the parking lot and through grease puddles along with asphalt scrapes.

First thing I do is look at the disk and 98% of them go get a bath. I feel like surcharging Netflix for cleaning.
post #20110 of 38730
Email Oppo and give them your order number (for the BDP-83) and date of purchase.

They informed me today that "due to some database issues that overlooked some eligible entries" (their words), some customers were not sent the disc (e.g., me) but of course, they will send it to me now.
post #20111 of 38730
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Anytime there are playback issues with a BD disc, the process is the same:

1) Go to setup and turn off BD-Live.
2) Erase the player's persistent storage.
3) Power cycle the player and try again.

Just a question - I have not had any playing problems but was curious about answer 2) - when I first got the player this option was naturally "grayed out" now after playing quite a few discs (w/BD-Live off) the option was now "white" to erase - I selected it and it stayed white (I had assumed it would go back to being "grayed out" once erased) - is it supposed to stay white after okaying the erasure?
post #20112 of 38730
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Originally Posted by tsxn View Post

I wish this player was $100 less.

I'd be willing to pay $100 MORE.
post #20113 of 38730
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Originally Posted by tsxn View Post

I wish this player was $100 less.

i wish it was 500 dollars less. then i could get it for free.
post #20114 of 38730
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Originally Posted by JimL View Post

Just a question - I have not had any playing problems but was curious about answer 2) - when I first got the player this option was naturally "grayed out" now after playing quite a few discs (w/BD-Live off) the option was now "white" to erase - I selected it and it stayed white (I had assumed it would go back to being "grayed out" once erased) - is it supposed to stay white after okaying the erasure?

Is this one of the options where playback must be completely stopped, or the tray ejected, first?

-Bill
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Is this one of the options where playback must be completely stopped, or the tray ejected, first?

-Bill

I thought for sure I had the tray open or at the least the disc out, because I had just finished a movie and put it back into the Netflix sleeve - will have to look into this further - thanks!!
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Originally Posted by sxn View Post

I wish this player was $100 less.

I'd be willing to pay $100 MORE.

Looks like we have a match made in heaven. sxn should buy the player and stevec325 should send him his extra hundred. Now everyone is happy and embracing their perceived value. To hell with logic and economics. We should start an electronics matchmaking service. I want to be matched up with the people who buy $2000 power cords and $10,000 cd players
post #20117 of 38730
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Originally Posted by tsxn View Post

I wish this player was $100 less.

It already is...visit Amazon, note the pricing, and your wish will be granted!
post #20118 of 38730
I'm one of the afflicted, occasionally hearing the pops and crackles with SACD. My torture disc is Bill Evans Waltz with Debby which seems to elicit these distracting pops with alarming regularity (the latest firmware has made them less awful, but not eliminated them).

I'd read the recent posts on how these persisted, even with analog out, as long as HDMI was connected. Unplugging HDMI appeared to eliminate the problem with analog outs. The problem is that HDMI is such a crap standard that pulling and reattaching the jack repeatedly isn't just an annoying headache, but also a threat to the integrity of the actual receptacle in the back of the player.

I think I've found a solution, at least for those of us with highly flexible pre-pros. I'm using an Anthem AVM-50 which has a large number of completely customizable source selections. I've set the DVD in to take audio and video from one of the HDMI inputs for regular DVD and Blu-ray playing. For SACD, I've set up one of the other sources to take an analog 2-channel input and NO video. This way, I can just pick the two-channel source to completely decouple SACD sound from any HDMI handshaking issues since the AVM-50 is ignoring the HDMI ins.

So far this seems to be working well. It also eliminates the muted second or two at the start of any disc that also appears to be attributable to HDMI suckiness.

I don't love this solution, but I can live with it until a final fix is in place.

-Ravi
post #20119 of 38730
It's the same price at Amazon that it always was. I did note one screen that had the price of $499.99 crossed out and "499.99" substituted. Some vendors of region-free models were selling their units for substantially more, which should make Steve happy.
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Originally Posted by jimjr View Post

Did you have to pay extra for that feature? Can we get Oppo to add it to the next firmware release?



Roberta
post #20121 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Millicurie999 View Post

Email Oppo and give them your order number (for the BDP-83) and date of purchase.

They informed me today that "due to some database issues that overlooked some eligible entries" (their words), some customers were not sent the disc (e.g., me) but of course, they will send it to me now.

thanks for the info. i'm in Canada and, after writing to OPPO last week, was informed that they would mail the discs and blue filters to U.S. customers before starting to ship to international customers.

but doing what you just said can't hurt either
thanks.
post #20122 of 38730
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Originally Posted by John_z View Post

IF it is so that noone has any noise when the HDMI cable isn't attached then it surely seems like it also would depend on other components and how they handle handshake and eventual "keep alive"-signals. But I don't know if that is the case.

As one of those who has not had any "pops" or anything other than what was originally recorded with SACD through M/C analog, this issue about playing SACDs via M/C analog with and without the HDMI cable plugged in is interesting to me.

Perhaps one reason that I have had clean SACD output through M/C analog is that I have no HDMI input in my Rotel Pre/Pro. Maybe getting a new pro/pro with HDMI isn't all that important after all.
post #20123 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

And I can throw in sealed copies of the Celine Dion BR for testing.

Sorry, Kal, but it wasn't a blu-ray; it was an SACD that activated this special feature. I guess a blu-ray disc in a red laser player might cause problems, eh?
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Originally Posted by bborzell View Post

As one of those who has not had any "pops" or anything other than what was originally recorded with SACD through M/C analog, this issue about playing SACDs via M/C analog with and without the HDMI cable plugged in is interesting to me.

Perhaps one reason that I have had clean SACD output through M/C analog is that I have no HDMI input in my Rotel Pre/Pro. Maybe getting a new pro/pro with HDMI isn't all that important after all.

I'm using my Rotel RSP-1066, the same as yours, HDMI just goes to the HDTV and use 5.1 M/C analogue.

Never any noise or sounds to remind me of any breakfast cereal!

Why change your Pre/Pro?
post #20125 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Redbeemer View Post

Sorry, Kal, but it wasn't a blu-ray; it was an SACD that activated this special feature. I guess a blu-ray disc in a red laser player might cause problems, eh?

Of course, I meant for testing this new proposed feature for the Oppo. After all, it would be no trick if your red laser player rejected that, would it?
post #20126 of 38730
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Originally Posted by stevec325 View Post

Diana Krall, The Look of Love: "Cry Me a River" and "Besame Mucho".

Every time, every connection, every setting.

I have played it on my 981 and on a friends Denon and with those players, it sounds fine. it is definitely NOT a flawed disc.

This is my reference test for each new FW release

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest another possible source for sounds or artifacts that one would think should not be present in either "Cry Me A River" or "Besame Mucho". I hope I don't come across as sounding like I think this thing is all "listener error", because I don't think that. Just wanting to cover all the bases.

I just listened to both cuts twice and, after spending more time really concentrating on what might be perceived as R/C, I am now of the impression that the percussion tracks on both songs are sloppy enough to cause a serious listener to want to send a metronome to the percussionist. In fact, the very next cut, "The Night We Called it A Day", exhibits similar "percussive anomalies" that are even more distracting to my ear.

It would be interesting to track down these "events" as to specific time location and channel in order to determine if whatever is being heard is being heard at the same location on the disc (including channel).

For what it's worth, of the 3 Diana Krall SACDs I own, I have always felt that "The Look Of Love" demonstrated the poorest production quality.
post #20127 of 38730
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Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

I'm using my Rotel RSP-1066, the same as yours, HDMI just goes to the HDTV and use 5.1 M/C analogue.

Never any noise or sounds to remind me of any breakfast cereal!

Why change your Pre/Pro?

That's getting to be a better and better question. The snake pit of cables is the last remaining tug toward swapping out the Rotel for a HDMI pre/pro. Maybe I should just stop looking back there.

Actually, the real remaining tug is being able to do discrete 7.1. Since I have only 2 7.1 Video BDs and no 7.1 audios, at the moment, that tug is also getting weaker.
post #20128 of 38730
My components are all in an armoire, once cabled up and placed in position, I don't see the snake pit. I know they're there and they do their job - heard, but not seen!

Living in an apartment and having heard 7.1, nice - but not necessary, and with the
economy, loving my Rotel 1066 more and more each day.

I remember the new Pre/Pro you wanted - don't believe it's been released as of yet -
lots of delays.
post #20129 of 38730
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Originally Posted by bborzell View Post

As one of those who has not had any "pops" or anything other than what was originally recorded with SACD through M/C analog, this issue about playing SACDs via M/C analog with and without the HDMI cable plugged in is interesting to me.

Perhaps one reason that I have had clean SACD output through M/C analog is that I have no HDMI input in my Rotel Pre/Pro. Maybe getting a new pro/pro with HDMI isn't all that important after all.

I also have a Rotel Pre/Pro (1098) and don't have the problem either. The only HDMI cable with my 83 is to my plasma. What are the particular hookups that people who are experiencing the problem have?
post #20130 of 38730
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

And I can throw in sealed copies of the Celine Dion BR for testing.

As touched as I am by your generosity, I could not possibly accept your sacrifice. The guilt would require me to hang myself.
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