Official OPPO BDP-83 Owner's Thread [technical talk only] - Page 8

I pulled the trigger and ordered my EAP.

Nice to see someone from the OC got in on this!!

I haven't really read through all this yet cause I just got home, but I placed my order. Hopefully it will go out today or tomorrow the latest. (that just me talking don't know when it will go out)

Oh BTW tried ordering over phone today when I was on the road but I couldn't. I also asked if how many actually put in for the early program. I said was it like 200 or 300 hundred. He said he didn't have exact numbers but it was "in the 5 digits". !!! Seriously. . .I find this real hard to believe. Maybe it's true but I figured it was just all us and a few others that put in for it. I mean I never get picked for anything and out of a very large 10's of thousands I get picked. . . think about that one. Makes you want to play the lottery.

Now he could have been blowin' smoke up my *%^ also!

Jimi

That's actually how I first heard about OPPO. I didn't get in on time to order it, but I read the comments on Woot and got intrigued about this company that people were raving so much about. My research quickly lead me back here to AVS (where I was already a member), so I focused reading about them here for a while... which ultimately lead to me buying a 983.

If the price is one cent over $499 when this unit is EVER released, then Oppo will have lost a long term customer. I've been with them since the beginning and still own two of their players but the way they handled the Early Adoption Program and beta testing really leaves me cold. I'll spend twice the amount of an Oppo to buy a competing Blu-Ray unit if the price is $499.01 or higher. Might even have a couple up for sale too.

Its getting to where all the technology in the world won't make up for the thinking and logic behind this unit's pre-release marketing. They are real close to the sort of place I just don't care to do business with.

A button that will basically jump backward or fwd 10-30 secs for replay. Sort of like the replay and commercial skips on a tivo.

What are the chances that with over 10,000 names on the EAP list about 40% of the winners post here on AVS?

Someone mentioned about 500+ unique posters on this thread. So if 18 to 20 posters (about 40%) received an invitation then I would guess 1500-2000 where on the EAP list.

But what do I know?

Just checked my email and I'm in the first 50 EAP.

The problem is that I had given up on Oppo and bought a Sony BDP-S550 a few weeks back that I am very pleased with.

I do not care about SACD and DVD-A playback. I just want a good Blu-ray and DVD player. I have been ripping my CDs for years and putting them on my network so CD playback isn't really important to me either.

Any opinions??? What am I missing here??

Thanks

They can do whatever they want with their price, just like any other manufacturer. What we are saying is that they've never changed their MSRP on a player. The 971H was $199, the 970HD was $149, the 981HD is $229, the 980H is $169, the 983H was $399 - in each case, the price on day one remained true for the life of the player. They can always change their mind and do things differently in the future, but that's a pretty clear pattern dating back to late 2004.

The woot sale was an unusual case, not a sale run through OPPO Digital. That's why I called it an "extreme" form of a b stock sale.

If (and this is a big if, since there's been no official decision announced yet) the official launch price is $599, history suggests that it will remain that way indefinitely. Of course, this could be the player that sees a change in procedure, but I wouldn't recommend anyone count on that. And as for retailers, they do not allow retailers to sell below MSRP. Companies can offer free shipping, but that's it.

Again, they have never changed the MSRP on a player. They have offered b stock on all of their players over the years, depending on availability, and that typically would save you something like $30.

Personally, I think the Oppo will be a great player to aspire to..but if you just want good quality BD playback and decent up-conversion you could spend less money and be very happy. There are some excellent players out there.
I do think SACD/DVD-A are still a draw for many on these forums and nothing wrong with that.

You're asking the wrong crowd. I think I speak for all of us losers: Keep the Sony and let someone else get your spot

I thought A****holics was one?

They still list several OPPO DVD players.


That was the same math I did in this post.

I can't read and do math

I just said I remember some prices lowered, whether B stock, etc. I never said categorically they will lower it but inferred it as a possibility, considering today's economic climate I would not rule anything out.

Well, who's to say they wouldn't have made more money if they did lower prices occasionally. Besides, GM's still in business, doesn't mean they know what they're doing...

Is this still a hope, or is it official that one day it will support DVD A?

I think the important thing is that OPPO prices the unit sufficiently high to cover all their expenses and investment, including research, and mods in response to the EAP and the Beta Tests. I think ultimately we all want them to succeed and to continue to bring new technology to the market, which means that they should set their prices at levels that will ensure that they can continue to achieve those goals in the future.

For example, if they have to price the 83 at $600, or even $700, I personally would be happy to accept such price levels if the unit performs as has been indicated and provides the audio performance that has been discussed. - On the other hand, putting pressure on them to cut prices for anyone who has signed up for the initial lottery would IMO be penny-wise and pound-foolish. They have to pay salaries, health insurance costs, payments to suppliers, marketing expenses, utilities, insurance, legal fees, rent/interest, research expenses, etc., like any other company.

- It's the long-range stability and prosperity of the company that's going to bring good technology to the market in the future, not cut-rate pricing deals for those of us who signed up for advance information. Put another way, if they went under due to price competition in these difficult economic conditions, do you think that Panny, Sony, Toshiba, Sanyo, etc., would pick up their R&D programs and provide new technology such as OPPO's for similar prices? I think not. -Which is why I'll be happy to pay $600 or $700 for this universal BD player. (Despite the fact that I have already paid several hundreds for a Tosh A35 HD-DVD which, realistically, is now substantially useless.)

In other words, get off their backs with the repeated requests for special deals and prices, and threats to go elsewhere if they don't meet your demands. - If you don't like their offer, you are certainly free to order a player from Panasonic, Sony, or Sanyo (and then to post your complaints on the Panny, Sony, Sanyo discussion boards.)

Jim Cate

It's officially in the plans. I don't expect the player to be released for general purchase until DVD-A is there.

-Bill

I do see that Amazon sells OPPO.

Please explain the above. My understanding is only the firmware will change.

Received my invitation about 15 minutes ago! I had assumed that I wasn't going to make and that all the emails went out yesterday.

Simply Awesome, I can't wait to get this setup, especially after Bob's details a few pages back.

For those who want OPPO to charge more then $599.00 please just send OPPO an extra check when placing your order for that extra amount. Not all of us are rolling in cash.

I think OPPO would rather sell 5,000 units at $499.00 then 2,000 units at $699.00

I wasn't a beta tested but what is wrong with how they handled it? The early adoption program was done by lottery what's wrong with that. How else would they have picked users. they prob just couldn't give them to anyone.

also were i would assume you didn't even sign up for the program cause if you didn't like how they handled beta testing then why give a chance to the early adoption program.

jimi

All they had to do is build it, test it and sell it. Yes, I would pay more for the right player (even theirs) but given their goofy logic behind this EAP, they set the price. If they go higher then they deserve to lose business - if thats a consequence. I've always been a fan of Oppo and recommended them to many but thats about to stop after watching this BDP-83 release unfold.

As far as all of us wanting them to succeed, I'm not in that boat. Technology will be driven by more companies than Oppo. I'll be glad to vote for them with my wallet if they treat customers fair - and that extends to equal pricing across the board. If they play favorites, then I vote with my wallet to go elsewhere. I'm fine with that.

There must be somebody from last night who didn't want one.