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post #21271 of 39280
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Originally Posted by pete6737 View Post

I tried to update Main Version: BDP83-38-0905 through USB with no luck. The update is on the usb but the Oppo could not find it. I tried it several times using both ports. Any suggestions? Thanks, Pete

create a folder named UPG, put it in the root directory of the USB stick and put the 0905 FW files in it (the original OPPO F/W Zip file creates this folder on its own, if you don't mess with it). the BDP-83 will find them immediately.
post #21272 of 39280
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Originally Posted by pete6737 View Post

I tried to update Main Version: BDP83-38-0905 through USB with no luck. The update is on the usb but the Oppo could not find it. I tried it several times using both ports. Any suggestions? Thanks, Pete

I initially had exactly the same problem. After deleting everything on the USB thumb drive except the UPG folder with the 4 files in it, the OPPO finally recognized it and updated correctly. You might want to try doing the same.
post #21273 of 39280
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Originally Posted by John Ballentine View Post

I've watched about 30 BD's (via bitstream) w/ no issues. However last night I had my first ever lip sync issue (Sunshine Cleaning). Had to adjust for 100ms delay. Why would this be needed all of a sudden?
Thanks.

I'm running 0905 and watched this film last night. No problems. All HDMI, with the -83 decoding and sending PCM.
post #21274 of 39280
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Originally Posted by pete6737 View Post

I tried to update Main Version: BDP83-38-0905 through USB with no luck. The update is on the usb but the Oppo could not find it. I tried it several times using both ports. Any suggestions? Thanks, Pete

pete,

Are the any other files on the USB drive? There should only be the UPG folder with 4 files in it on the USB drive.


Respectfully,
Willie
post #21275 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post

Since moving to FW 0905 I've noticed that the AVI playback feature isn't as robust as previously (AVI starts playing, then just stops).

I haven't exactly figured out yet what it might be, but the AVI files that have problems are reported as 25fps in the Oppo (when running from a USB stick).

However, the funny thing is that if I convert the AVI file to a DivX container (via 3rd party freeware which gives .divx file extension and takes about 3 minutes...) the Oppo plays it no problem.

Weird.

vagabond, what's the name of the app you're using to convert?
post #21276 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Drag0nFly View Post

I am obviously testing it with secondary audio on--otherwise there wouldn't be much to test. When using the analog connections, SAP is set to off, but when using optical it is set to on. There is no problem using the "DTS Core" track or the accompanying Dolby Digital track when using optical out--only the re-encoded DTS track.

It appears that since the subwoofer was set to "off" (which would be logical since the system has no subwoofer), the LFE information was dropped from any further processing and thus not included in the re-encoded DTS 1.5Mbps track. This would be in line with the reply I got from Oppo (first column) --


So it doesn't sound too promising wrt. getting this functionality implemented. I was hoping Oppo would seriously consider this.

Got it. I tested yesterday using the HDMI outputs (the re-encoded DTS for HDMI should be identical to what gets sent out over Optical/Coax) and found no problem with LFE, but I did not try turning OFF the Subwoofer in the Speaker Configuration as part of this. The Speaker Configuration settings are supposed to have no effect on the digital audio outputs so if turning OFF Subwoofer in there changes what gets sent out on the Digital outputs as re-encoded DTS then I would consider that a bug. I'll check that again later today.
--Bob
post #21277 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post

Since moving to FW 0905 I've noticed that the AVI playback feature isn't as robust as previously (AVI starts playing, then just stops).

I haven't exactly figured out yet what it might be, but the AVI files that have problems are reported as 25fps in the Oppo (when running from a USB stick).

However, the funny thing is that if I convert the AVI file to a DivX container (via 3rd party freeware which gives .divx file extension and takes about 3 minutes...) the Oppo plays it no problem.

Weird.

Weird indeed! Perhaps you can email an AVI file that fails to Oppo tech support.
--Bob
post #21278 of 39280
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Originally Posted by pete6737 View Post

I tried to update Main Version: BDP83-38-0905 through USB with no luck. The update is on the usb but the Oppo could not find it. I tried it several times using both ports. Any suggestions? Thanks, Pete

The instructions give by others for how to put the UPG folder on the USB stick are correct, but I'm curious why you are trying to do just the Main firmware install and not also the MCU and BD-Loader installs?
--Bob
post #21279 of 39280
Thanks for the replies. I do have other files on the usb. The UPG folder is there with all four files in it. I will try a blank usb with only the update on it. This is the first time updating the 83...I used a usb to update my 980H and it had other files on it, the 980h recognized the update through the other files with no problems, so I thought this would work the same. I will post my results... Thanks, pete
post #21280 of 39280
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Originally Posted by pete6737 View Post

Thanks for the replies. I do have other files on the usb. The UPG folder is there with all four files in it. I will try a blank usb with only the update on it. This is the first time updating the 83...I used a usb to update my 980H and it had other files on it, the 980h recognized the update through the other files with no problems, so I thought this would work the same. I will post my results... Thanks, pete

Ah, OK, so you are are using all 4 files.

Also, make sure your USB stick is formatted as FAT and not NTFS.
--Bob
post #21281 of 39280
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Originally Posted by pete6737 View Post

Thanks for the replies. I do have other files on the usb. The UPG folder is there with all four files in it. I will try a blank usb with only the update on it. This is the first time updating the 83...I used a usb to update my 980H and it had other files on it, the 980h recognized the update through the other files with no problems, so I thought this would work the same. I will post my results... Thanks, pete

I often have many files and folders on the USB stick and install firmware without difficulty.

Does the stick work otherwise? The player mounts it and you can navigate around with the browser?

What if you use the Setup Menu option to install new firmware from USB? Any difference?

-Bill
post #21282 of 39280
This is a semi-off-topic post. I say "semi" because my BDP-83 is only partially the subject of this post.

I have had a wired network for years that connects my computer to my ISP but now I want to add my DLNA-capable TV and the BDP-83 to a network and be prepared for a new pre/pro next year that I suspect will need network connections. This equipment is a couple of rooms away from my wired router and desktop PC. Since I don't want to get into wiring, I am thinking of finally going wireless. I know very little about wireless networking. What I am looking for is a guide to what I will need to set up the new wireless network. I know that I will need a new wireless router and adaptors for the older laptop and my desktop computer but have no idea what other equipment I will need for the 83 and my TV. Is there a guide around on setting up a wireless network for a system like this that will tell me what equipment I will need and how to configure it. I looked over in the HTPC forum section but wasn't able to find any basic tutorials on networking. I am not interested in having an HTPC or a media server at this time but may be in the future. I don't think the device sould by Oppo is what I want since I want to add multiple devices to my hookup. Thanks for any help or pointers.
post #21283 of 39280
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

This is a semi-off-topic post. I say "semi" because my BDP-83 is only partially the subject of this post.

I have had a wired network for years that connects my computer to my ISP but now I want to add my DLNA-capable TV and the BDP-83 to a network and be prepared for a new pre/pro next year that I suspect will need network connections. This equipment is a couple of rooms away from my wired router and desktop PC. Since I don't want to get into wiring, I am thinking of finally going wireless. I know very little about wireless networking. What I am looking for is a guide to what I will need to set up the new wireless network. I know that I will need a new wireless router and adaptors for the older laptop and my desktop computer but have no idea what other equipment I will need for the 83 and my TV. Is there a guide around on setting up a wireless network for a system like this that will tell me what equipment I will need and how to configure it. I looked over in the HTPC forum section but wasn't able to find any basic tutorials on networking. I am not interested in having an HTPC or a media server at this time but may be in the future. I don't think the device sould by Oppo is what I want since I want to add multiple devices to my hookup. Thanks for any help or pointers.

There's some info in the FAQ on this.

Basically you will need the wireless networking transmitter. This could be built into your router or it could be a separate "base station" gadget that plugs into an ethernet port on the router. Next you will need one or more wireless access points -- think of them as receivers for the wifi. Some devices will have these built in (PS3 for example). For other devices you can get an adapter that plugs into a USB port in the device. For other devices you use a stand-alone gadget and run a short ethernet connector between that and the device.

There are lots of companies selling these things. I happen to use the Airport products from Apple. So I have an Airport base station connected via ethernet to my FIOS internet router. Near the BDP-83 I have an Airport Express which is about the size of a power brick and plugs into a wall socket. It has an ethernet port on it and a short ethernet cable connects it to the BDP-83. As far as the BDP-83 is concerned, it thinks it is directly wired by ethernet to my FIOS router. It doesn't know and doesn't care that there's wifi in between.

The Airport express also acts as a repeater for the wifi which is useful for extending the range of the wifi. It also has an audio line-out that can be used to stream music from another computer elsewhere on the network.

Now you need to configure these wifi gadgets. How that is accomplished varies from device to device. In the case of the Airport products you start by connecting them directly to a computer via ethernet and then using a utility program Apple provides. Once the wifi is live you can update their configuration over the wifi -- just bring up the utility and it finds them over the wifi.

Other gadgets have a web browser style interface. You connect up to them (ethernet or wifi if the wifi is already live), launch your web browser, and type in a special, numeric web address and you see their control panel in your browser.

The sorts of things you have to configure are: The name of your wifi network. What radio channel it will operate on. Whether that network is visible by name to other computers or hidden (you have to know the name to find it). What sort of password security it has. And perhaps a few other things such as turning on the wifi repeating function in the Airport Express modules. Typically all devices on the wifi (including the base station and access points) are set to use the DHCP networking protocol to automatically configure themselves each time they power up. So you don't have to specify particular networking addresses for them for example.

Again, the Oppo doesn't need to know any of this stuff. For example it doesn't need to know the wifi name or password. All that stuff is handled automatically between the base station and the access points.

Those basics should get you started. When you get into this you'll discover that there are different speeds of wifi network as well as other features such as being able to attach a printer to a wifi access point gadget or base station that then becomes network accessible.

Have fun!
--Bob
post #21284 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

There's some info in the FAQ on this.

Basically you will need the wireless networking transmitter. This could be built into your router or it could be a separate "base station" gadget that plugs into an ethernet port on the router. Next you will need one or more wireless access points -- think of them as receivers for the wifi. Some devices will have these built in (PS3 for example). For other devices you can get an adapter that plugs into a USB port in the device. For other devices you use a stand-alone gadget and run a short ethernet connector between that and the device.

There are lots of companies selling these things. I happen to use the Airport products from Apple. So I have an Airport base station connected via ethernet to my FIOS internet router. Near the BDP-83 I have an Airport Express which is about the size of a power brick and plugs into a wall socket. It has an ethernet port on it and a short ethernet cable connects it to the BDP-83.

Just to add a bit to this... If you have multiple devices in one location that need a wireless network connection (Oppo, TV, surround sound processor, etc.), you can use a wireless bridge (I believe the Airport Express would be fine for this) and a wired switch. So instead of connecting the Oppo (or other device) directly to the ethernet port on the Airport Express, you would connect a network switch to the network port on the bridge and then connect your wired devices to the switch. This means you only have the expense of buying a single bridge at each physical location that needs wireless connectivity.
post #21285 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Mike_WI View Post

I doubt the measured difference is visible (2 delta E), but I was wondering if you have tried Bob's advice:

Link

Try OFF (Dithered) in the new 0905 firmware vs. 36-bit.
Also the 0805 firmware (and now the 0905) come with improved accuracy in color space conversion.
If you are still on the 0620 firmware you should upgrade to 0905 beta firmware and try again.
--Bob


Thanks,

Mike

Here's the chart with the latest 905 FW. Colorspace was 4:4:4. All measurements were quickly repeatable with an Eye-one Pro meter. NOTE: There meters are not so accurate below 30IRE so take those with a grain of salt.

Top chart is Deep Color: 36 bit.
Middle is Deep Color: OFF (which I used as baseline for calibration)
Bottom is Deep Color: OFF Dithered.

You can see that dithered throws off the greyscale just a bit, especially in the green.





To the eye, dithered doesn't seem to look different, but its important to realize that greyscale is affected.
post #21286 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post

Since moving to FW 0905 I've noticed that the AVI playback feature isn't as robust as previously (AVI starts playing, then just stops).

Hello,

After reading some of the post in here I am not so confident about owning this Oppo.

Can someone please answer these questions about the firmware updates?

My Oppo BDP-83 was delivered last week. My new plasma will be delivered this coming Saturday, 9-19. I will not hook up the Oppo until the plasma arrives.

After reading some of the post in here I am concerned about downloading a firmware upgrade and having problems after that like some of the post in here indicate could happen.

Questions:

1) When I first hook up the Oppo and turn it on if a firmware upgrade is available will I have the option to accept or decline that upgrade?

3) How do I decline the firmware upgrade if it is offered when I first turn the Oppo on?

3) If I decline the upgrade can I accept it later on?

I bought the Oppo because of the reviews about the incredible video and audio. That's what I am after. I thought all of the beta testing was done before I ordered this Oppo but I see post in here of guys accepting the latest beta firmware and then having problems.

If it matters all of my equipment has HDMI.

Can someone please tell me what to do so I can have everything work perfect and just enjoy what I know this Oppo is capable of doing?

Thank you in advance for any help with these questions.

Jim
post #21287 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Jim_In_Boston View Post

Hello,

After reading some of the post in here I am not so confident about owning this Oppo.

Can someone please answer these questions about the firmware updates?

My Oppo BDP-83 was delivered last week. My new plasma will be delivered this coming Saturday, 9-19. I will not hook up the Oppo until the plasma arrives.

After reading some of the post in here I am concerned about downloading a firmware upgrade and having problems after that like some of the post in here indicate could happen.

Questions:

1) When I first hook up the Oppo and turn it on if a firmware upgrade is available will I have the option to accept or decline that upgrade?

Since this is a beta firmware release, you won't be notified of it anyway. You have to explicitly install it with USB or disc.

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3) How do I decline the firmware upgrade if it is offered when I first turn the Oppo on?

For production firmware upgrades, click "no" instead of "yes". Or leave Firmware Notification off in the Setup Menu.

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3) If I decline the upgrade can I accept it later on?

Yes.

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I bought the Oppo because of the reviews about the incredible video and audio. That's what I am after. I thought all of the beta testing was done before I ordered this Oppo but I see post in here of guys accepting the latest beta firmware and then having problems.

Well, there will always be new firmware and it has to be tested. People are eager for the new firmware so OPPO makes it available to them. You don't have to install it.

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Can someone please tell me what to do so I can have everything work perfect and just enjoy what I know this Oppo is capable of doing?

I'm not sure perfection is available at any price. The easiest thing to do is stick with the installed firmware until new production firmware is released.

There may be recent titles that won't play without new firmware, though. This is the world of Blu-ray.

-Bill
post #21288 of 39280
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Originally Posted by stevec325 View Post

I'm running 0905 and watched this film last night. No problems. All HDMI, with the -83 decoding and sending PCM.



I think the issue with Sunshine Cleaning is Bitstreaming the audio directly to your receiver. Having the Oppo decode it, and sending it PCM is a little different. There is definitely a issue with bitstreaming. While not throughout the whole movie, there are parts that are pretty bad. All others movies have been great. Using 0905 firmware.
post #21289 of 39280
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Since this is a beta firmware release, you won't be notified of it anyway. You have to explicitly install it with USB or disc.



For production firmware upgrades, click "no" instead of "yes". Or leave Firmware Notification off in the Setup Menu.



Yes.



Well, there will always be new firmware and it has to be tested. People are eager for the new firmware so OPPO makes it available to them. You don't have to install it.



I'm not sure perfection is available at any price. The easiest thing to do is stick with the installed firmware until new production firmware is released.

There may be recent titles that won't play without new firmware, though. This is the world of Blu-ray.

-Bill

Bill,

Thank you very much. I really appreciate the answers. Now I feel better.

jim
post #21290 of 39280
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Originally Posted by pete6737 View Post

I tried to update Main Version: BDP83-38-0905 through USB with no luck. The update is on the usb but the Oppo could not find it. I tried it several times using both ports. Any suggestions? Thanks, Pete

I have always used my thumb drive to do the firmware updates, first for my 980, and now for the 83 and I have never had a problem.
Here is what I do.
Download and save the firmware file to your desktop and then unzip it to your stick.
This has always worked for me regardless of how many files I have on my thumb drive.
post #21291 of 39280
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Originally Posted by Drag0nFly View Post

I am obviously testing it with secondary audio on--otherwise there wouldn't be much to test. When using the analog connections, SAP is set to off, but when using optical it is set to on. There is no problem using the "DTS Core" track or the accompanying Dolby Digital track when using optical out--only the re-encoded DTS track.

It appears that since the subwoofer was set to "off" (which would be logical since the system has no subwoofer), the LFE information was dropped from any further processing and thus not included in the re-encoded DTS 1.5Mbps track. This would be in line with the reply I got from Oppo (first column) --


So it doesn't sound too promising wrt. getting this functionality implemented. I was hoping Oppo would seriously consider this.

I'm not able to reproduce the problem you are reporting here using the 0905 Beta firmware.

First understand two things:

1) The Speaker Configuration settings in the Oppo are supposed to have no effect whatsoever on any of the digital audio outputs -- whether or not DTS re-encoding is happening. If we can find a case where making a change in Speaker Configuration alters a digital audio output, then that is a bug.

2) The Oppo is NEVER supposed to do speaker configuration management (including bass steering in either direction) on any of the digital audio outputs. No volume trim, no bass steering in either direction. The Large/Small speaker settings and whether the subwoofer is ON in the Oppo Speaker Configuration are supposed to have no effect on the digital audio outputs. If we can find a case where that is not true, then that is a bug.

By design, when using the digital audio outputs, speaker configuration management and bass steering is something the AVR is supposed to do. The down-mix of multi-channel audio to fewer channels IS handled automatically according to what the AVR says it will accept. So for example if an HDMI AVR only accepts up to 5.1 channels, the Oppo will down-mix 7.1 content to 5.1 HDMI output automatically -- without regard to what's set in Speaker Configuration.

But the Speaker Configuration settings only apply to the multi-channel analog output.

-------------------------------------------------

I temporarily hooked up an Optical cable in addition to my normal HDMI cable. I temporarily set all speakers in my Anthem D2v pre-pro to Large to eliminate any confusion from bass steering happening in the pre-pro.

I tested both HDMI and Optical audio output. The HDMI audio output was set to Bitstream or OFF. The Optical audio output was set to Bitstream (and 192KHz although that shouldn't matter for Bitstream output). (Video settings were explicit 1080p, HDMI YCbCr 4:4:4, 30-bit (Dithered), 1080p/24 Auto, DVD/24 OFF.)

I tested with Secondary Audio both ON and OFF. I tested with the Subwoofer both ON and OFF in the Oppo's Speaker Configuration. I also tried lowering the Oppo's subwoofer volume trim by -10dB to see if that might be incorrectly getting applied to the digital outputs.

I tested using the 5.1 DTS, DD and Raw LPCM tracks on the AIX disc. I also tested using the 5.1 96KHz Dolby TrueHD "multi-channels level and balance" test on the "DVE HD Basics" disc. (You can't test this with the 7.1 TrueHD and DTS-HD MA tracks from AIX due to the special hack they have done to make it obvious if the "associated" or "core" compatibility track is being played by mistake.)

In all cases everything worked correctly. LFE was present ON THE LFE OUTPUT CHANNEL of the digital audio output for both HDMI and Optical and the volume level of the LFE was correct in every combo. Re-encoding into DTS happened only when it was supposed to happen, and re-encoding into DTS did not cause loss of LFE.

This was true for all combinations. In particular, the LFE came through just fine using the Oppo settings Secondary Audio ON, Subwoofer OFF, and Optical Bitstream output -- which was re-encoded 5.1 DTS at 1.5Mbps.

-------------------------------------------------------------

So there's something different between what you are doing and what I am doing and I can't spot it.

Understand that I wasn't expecting the LFE to come out on LF/RF in these tests. I was expecting it to come out on the digital LFE channel, and that's where I found it.
--Bob
post #21292 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim_In_Boston View Post

Hello,

After reading some of the post in here I am not so confident about owning this Oppo.

Can someone please answer these questions about the firmware updates?

My Oppo BDP-83 was delivered last week. My new plasma will be delivered this coming Saturday, 9-19. I will not hook up the Oppo until the plasma arrives.

After reading some of the post in here I am concerned about downloading a firmware upgrade and having problems after that like some of the post in here indicate could happen.

Questions:

1) When I first hook up the Oppo and turn it on if a firmware upgrade is available will I have the option to accept or decline that upgrade?

3) How do I decline the firmware upgrade if it is offered when I first turn the Oppo on?

3) If I decline the upgrade can I accept it later on?

I bought the Oppo because of the reviews about the incredible video and audio. That's what I am after. I thought all of the beta testing was done before I ordered this Oppo but I see post in here of guys accepting the latest beta firmware and then having problems.

If it matters all of my equipment has HDMI.

Can someone please tell me what to do so I can have everything work perfect and just enjoy what I know this Oppo is capable of doing?

Thank you in advance for any help with these questions.

Jim

Also, realize that people posting generally are having problems.
For the majority of people not posting, things are working.



Mike
post #21293 of 39280
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Originally Posted by butchgo View Post

I have always used my thumb drive to do the firmware updates, first for my 980, and now for the 83 and I have never had a problem.
Here is what I do.
Download and save the firmware file to your desktop and then unzip it to your stick.
This has always worked for me regardless of how many files I have on my thumb drive.

Same here. No problems with additional files on the stick, even coming from a Mac.
post #21294 of 39280
I am about to get an oppo br. I have had a panny 35 going to my Kuro 151 via an Onkyo 885P. I do full calbration myself for my set with colorfacts 7.5 and a very good meter (AVS 709 AVCHD).

1. Should I use 905 versus the 620 firmware? Any problems with 905 using HDMI for video and sound?

2. Any issues with 24p that I need to know about?

3. what settings are recommended for 709? Are they different for sd on the oppo.?



4.what settings are recommended on the Kuro?

5. any reason to use the 885p video processor with the oppo? I did not with the panny (only used for Direct TV).



Thanks!

Joel
post #21295 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_WI View Post

Also, realize that people posting generally are having problems.
For the majority of people not posting, things are working.



Mike

+1 - If there is a thread about a product on the AVS forum, it's not working "perfectly" for someone out of the box. Even though there are 700+(!) pages of threads (problems) to wade through, I think >95% of the people here still think it is a good product. Crackle, pops and all.
post #21296 of 39280
O the USB port the Oppo cannot read NTFS partitions. But what about EXT2/3 formatted drives? Will he read them?
post #21297 of 39280
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Originally Posted by locutus2k View Post

O the USB port the Oppo cannot read NTFS partitions. But what about EXT2/3 formatted drives? Will he read them?

FAT16 and FAT32 only. This is in the FAQ, by the way.

-Bill
post #21298 of 39280
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Originally Posted by locutus2k View Post

O the USB port the Oppo cannot read NTFS partitions. But what about EXT2/3 formatted drives? Will he read them?

FAT only.
post #21299 of 39280
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmschnur View Post

I am about to get an oppo br. I have had a panny 35 going to my Kuro 151 via an Onkyo 885P. I do full calbration myself for my set with colorfacts 7.5 and a very good meter (AVS 709 AVCHD).

1. Should I use 905 versus the 620 firmware? Any problems with 905 using HDMI for video and sound?

Read the firmware release notes in the first post of this thread for changes. No reason you shouldn't try the latest beta.

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2. Any issues with 24p that I need to know about?

People report mixed results for DVD 24p.

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3. what settings are recommended for 709? Are they different for sd on the oppo.?

You'll have to check the calibration and see. For me, by eye only, the same settings work for both DVD and Blu-ray. All the OPPO players produce rec 709 for upscaling resolutions, and rec 601 for 480i/p.

I experiment with slightly reduced sharpness settings for DVD.

-Bill
post #21300 of 39280
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Just to add a bit to this... If you have multiple devices in one location that need a wireless network connection (Oppo, TV, surround sound processor, etc.), you can use a wireless bridge (I believe the Airport Express would be fine for this) and a wired switch. So instead of connecting the Oppo (or other device) directly to the ethernet port on the Airport Express, you would connect a network switch to the network port on the bridge and then connect your wired devices to the switch. This means you only have the expense of buying a single bridge at each physical location that needs wireless connectivity.

Totally agree with this. In fact, my Oppo and other AV devices are hooked up in exactly this fashion, with flawless results.
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