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post #22081 of 38733
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Originally Posted by tf1216 View Post

Thanks guys. I tried reprogramming to no avail. I also visited the Logitech forum.

I just duplicated your efforts with my Harmony 880 and had no problems adding a "pause" command in place of "shut off" for the BD-83 to the sequence involving switching to another activity. I'm pretty sure the method of programming these remotes is nearly identical. I'd suggest reviewing the settings you have for starting & stopping this activity. You should see a screen with a drop down box allowing you to change the "shut off" command to a "pause" command.
post #22082 of 38733
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Originally Posted by Makaveli Tha Don View Post

thanks man, I'll for sure give those a shot this afternoon. Any reasoning behind setting the distance to 1ft? Just curious.

Not really, but its a good starting point. You can always increase the distance if there is a slight sync problem.
If you want input the distance from you to your speakers. But keep the number the same for R/L speakers.
I am just trying to cover all bases, some of the things I suggested probably have nothing to do with your real problem. But they will not harm anything.
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post #22083 of 38733
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Originally Posted by tf1216 View Post

Having a problem here fellas'.

I am unable to switch from a movie to watching tv without my Harmony One stopping the 83.

I would like to be able to switch back and forth between activities with the player paused. Any advice?

Call Harmony Customer Service.
post #22084 of 38733
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Originally Posted by tf1216 View Post

Having a problem here fellas'.

I am unable to switch from a movie to watching tv without my Harmony One stopping the 83.

I would like to be able to switch back and forth between activities with the player paused. Any advice?

using the logitech software:
under the activity which uses the oppo, selection 'settings', then 'change options', then 'stop on exit', select 'don't stop on exit'
post #22085 of 38733
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Originally Posted by bosng View Post

new owner here. using with pioneer krp500. oppo set to 24p off output 1080p
with regular dvd (1st season the shield).
i'm getting a very slight stutter with playback.
do i have some other setting that is wrong? what's the experience with dvd's?
are some prone to stutter and some not? is this an oppo issue?

thanks for the help

How frequently is this happening?

-Bill
post #22086 of 38733
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Highlander_AVS View Post

Did you say at me ??

Yes, I was. On this particular disc, AIX designed the DTS-HD Master test pattern to be used on a 7.1 configuration only. All other configurations, such as a 5.1 home theater, will result in greatly attenuated volume.

Again, this is normal for this specific DTS-HD Master test pattern found on this particular disc.
post #22087 of 38733
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Brian-HD View Post

How can you tell mechanical from firmware issues?

You can't, or at least, we can't as end users. This is why I have always championed trying software solutions (updating firmware, resetting defaults, deleting persistent storage, etc) prior to declaring the issue a mechanical one.

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Are there specific issues with some trays?

IIRC, there is only one tray design. There are different servo designs, however.
post #22088 of 38733
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Originally Posted by KenB123 View Post

I going with this as what may be happening. After my initial post, I thought about trying the disc with my PS3, and I am getting the same issue. I guess that can eliminate the players.

I did some searches for MoLog and didn't come up with too much. I will try again in a couple days and see if anything new.

Thanks.

Tested on BDP-83, PS-3 and on my computer (LG BR drive). All of them failed when downloading the MoLog. So it is Lion Gate's fault.
post #22089 of 38733
Well, I recoded all my FLAC CDs to MP3 and loaded them onto a Western Digital "My Book" external drive with power supply and hooked it up to the BDP-83.

The OPPO recognized the drive and the folder and played through about 1/2 of Jennifer Warnes' The Hunter befor the drive and the OPPO froze. I rebooted both and started again with another album and this time only got through 3 cuts before everything froze again.

Anybody had or heard of anything similar happening?
post #22090 of 38733
I recently started having an issue with my BDP-83. I think the first time I noticed the issue was sometime around two weeks ago, but it's somewhat random so I can't say for sure.

Here's my setup:

BDP-83 hdmi out connected into "BD"-labeled hdmi input on VSX-03TXH, VSX-03TXH hdmi out connected into hdmi input on Pioneer PRO-111FD.

I leave the television set on that input at all times and do all a/v switching via the receiver. I have a DirecTV hd-dvr, the BDP-83, and a PC connected to the receiver via hdmi.

For the last few months (ever since I received the BDP-83 in the mail), I have used this setup without issue. I hit the "watch a blu-ray" button on the Harmony and next thing you know we see the nice Oppo logo welcome screen.

However, lately when I try to use the BDP-83, all I get is a black screen. I am able to use the DirecTV and PC just fine; when I use those inputs I see and hear everything with no problems. After verifying that the PC input was working properly with the PC connected, I tried connecting the BDP-83 to the PC input instead, and all I saw was still just a black screen. I also tried connecting the PC to the input that the BDP-83 normally uses, and I saw and heard the PC signal just fine. This leads me to believe that there is nothing wrong with the receiver inputs themselves.

That said, I don't think there is anything wrong with the BDP-83 unit either--when I bypass the receiver completely and connect the player directly to the television, I get the Oppo signal without issue.

So somehow (and only recently!?) there is something odd with the combination of the BDP-83 and the VSX-03TXH? Does anybody have any suggestions or insight?

Edit: by the way, all testing was done with no disc in the tray so I don't think there is a disc-specific problem.
post #22091 of 38733
Hi all,

Anyone here using digital out on the BDP-83 noticed the following problem with the Kubrick titles listed below --

When outputting audio via the digital toslink output, and having the audio track set to PCM 5.1 with secondary audio set to "on" (in order to re-encode into DTS 1.5Mbps) only a two-channel mix can be heard for the following titles when bitstreaming via the optical/toslink output:

o 2001 A Space Odyssey
o A Clockwork Orange
o The Shining
o Full Metal Jacket
o Eyes Wide Shut

All other titles work fine when re-encoding PCM 5.1 soundtracks into DTS, but not these. I have reported the error to Oppo and they were apparently not aware of it.
So it either has to do with some strange fault in my player or that the BDP-83 is somehow discriminating between which PCM tracks it re-encodes when the secondary audio option activated.

Thanks to anyone who have these titles and are willing to test!
post #22092 of 38733
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Originally Posted by FoxyMulder View Post

I notice some issues with discs such as The Rock and Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Mans Chest and the sequel as well as The Chronicles of Narnia and all from Buena Vista or Disney ( it's the same company really but one is the adult arm ) with the latest Beta firmware. I load the disc into the player but the usual loading round scrolly left corner logo isn't there and it doesn't load and it just stays on the Oppo front screen message.

The way i got it to work was to power down the system and then switch it back on and then the discs load and work perfectly. I have noticed this with a few discs now and only with the latest Beta firmware.

Not a problem as long as i can get the discs to work by powering down and starting up again and i think someone already mentioned this as a fix for the problem.

This could be related to the HDMI negotiation bug. I have noticed this exact same issue with a few discs (although they were not consistent). I was able to get around the problem by either power-cycling, erasing persistent storage--or both.
When I initially reported it to Oppo they identified the problem as being related to HDMI neg., which I initially found very curious, as I am for the time being using component output exclusively.

The reply I got from Opp was:

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Originally Posted by Oppo Service View Post

That is the problem. Occasionally with the Beta Firmware the player is trying to force a HDMI negotiation. If there is no HDMI signal, or the display device is turned off, the player will not boot. This will be addressed through a future firmware release.

So they are basically saying that this occurs even when there is no HDMI connection at all.

A quite ugly bug if you ask me!
post #22093 of 38733
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Originally Posted by FoxyMulder View Post

I think if you do a search of the thread that the people who made the actual disc came in and said they designed the disc a little differently and that what you are experiencing is normal and how they wanted the disc to play.

It's in this thread somewhere though so do a search for AIX and maybe you can locate it.

Thanks ! I'm going to search for it, in order to understand why and how they designed in "another way" and why, indeed 7.1 DD True HD test from them works correctly as how I expect
post #22094 of 38733
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Yes, I was. On this particular disc, AIX designed the DTS-HD Master test pattern to be used on a 7.1 configuration only. All other configurations, such as a 5.1 home theater, will result in greatly attenuated volume.

Again, this is normal for this specific DTS-HD Master test pattern found on this particular disc.

Ok, Sorry..
Continue to didn't understand ...

Any media coded with discrete 7.1 channels can be read if decoded through the respective multi analog outs.
Why I could listen at DTS-HD MA 7.1 from a Blu-Ray and not the one from AIX ?? where is the differents ??
Maybe AIX works only over Hdmi where is checked the "real" audio channels configs ??

Anyway I gonna search for the mentioned topic
Thanks
post #22095 of 38733
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Originally Posted by Highlander_AVS View Post

Ok, Sorry..
Continue to didn't understand ...

Any media coded with discrete 7.1 channels can be read if decoded through the respective multi analog outs.
Why I could listen at DTS-HD MA 7.1 from a Blu-Ray and not the one from AIX ?? where is the differents ??
Maybe AIX works only over Hdmi where is checked the "real" audio channels configs ??

Anyway I gonna search for the mentioned topic
Thanks

The AIX disc is designed so it only works on this particular test if you have a 7.1 system. If you have only a 5.1 system this particular test plays at a greatly attenuated volume to show that you do not have a 7.1 system.
post #22096 of 38733
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Originally Posted by Highlander_AVS View Post

Ok, Sorry..
Continue to didn't understand ...

Any media coded with discrete 7.1 channels can be read if decoded through the respective multi analog outs.
Why I could listen at DTS-HD MA 7.1 from a Blu-Ray and not the one from AIX ?? where is the differents ??
Maybe AIX works only over Hdmi where is checked the "real" audio channels configs ??

Anyway I gonna search for the mentioned topic
Thanks

As per all answers given, this is the way the AIX disc work. However, if you set the Oppo to 7.1 even if you don't have a 7.1 setup, it plays fine (but you won't hear the back speakers), at least over analog. Haven't tried over HDMI, though.

Cheers
post #22097 of 38733
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Originally Posted by Smarty-pants View Post

You say you are using componenet output now?...

_Why are you using component output?
_In the player's setup output, do you have component out set as the primary video output as opposed to HDMI?
Can you not use the HDMI output from the player?... when you use the component output, your are bypassing the Anchor Bay VRS processing that makes any scaled picture look that much better.
If at all possible, it is highly recommended to use HDMI output.

_Are you using the latest 09/05 beta firmware?
_If not using the 09/05 fw, try loading it. After that, clear the persistent storage and then reset the player back to factory default.
Then resubmit all of your personal settings into the player again and power cycle.
Even if you are already running 09/05 fw, follow the procedure anyway and see if your problems get fixed.

Answering these questions and doing this testing will help OPPO make YOUR player a better machine for you.

Yah i did all the things in the last part of your post when loading the latest Beta firmware. I also have component out selected in the menu.

I'm only using component for a short while as i try and identify an issue with crackling ( well documented earlier a few pages back in the thread ) - Trying to elimate certain cables. I can now elimate that cable and i will be putting it back today and using HDMI again and so will re-test with the cable in place.

I have noticed after calibration into this projector that component whilst good can not display even half of the black and white numbered bars on the contrast calibration Spears and Munsil calibration test disc whilst the HDMI output displays all except the last 3 so clearly HDMI is the way to go.

I think Drag0nFly's reply to me is possibly the answer since i can't recall having this issue when using HDMI. I will test this today though just to make sure. It's not a huge issue for me though as long as they eventually work.
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Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post

As per all answers given, this is the way the AIX disc work. However, if you set the Oppo to 7.1 even if you don't have a 7.1 setup, it plays fine (but you won't hear the back speakers), at least over analog. Haven't tried over HDMI, though.

Cheers

BINGO !!!

This is the problem I can't explain ....
If I set the Oppo to 7.1 analog, even if I only have 5.1, IT DON'T PLAYS FINE as you sayed... It plays anyway NOTTHING ( NO SOUND from any speacker ...) )!! only with that particular track ...
post #22099 of 38733
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Originally Posted by sergiohm View Post

Tested on BDP-83, PS-3 and on my computer (LG BR drive). All of them failed when downloading the MoLog. So it is Lion Gate's fault.

Good. Thanks for the further confirmation.

Initially I was worried that it may be the BDP83. Glad that it is not this fine unit's fault.
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Originally Posted by Highlander_AVS View Post

...only with that particular track ...

I suggest you stop playing that track...it's a test disc!
post #22101 of 38733
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Originally Posted by TRT View Post

Call Harmony Customer Service.

+1... they'll be extremely patient and walk you through the "fix".
post #22102 of 38733
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Originally Posted by Drag0nFly View Post

This could be related to the HDMI negotiation bug. I have noticed this exact same issue with a few discs (although they were not consistent). I was able to get around the problem by either power-cycling, erasing persistent storage--or both.
When I initially reported it to Oppo they identified the problem as being related to HDMI neg., which I initially found very curious, as I am for the time being using component output exclusively.

The reply I got from Opp was:



So they are basically saying that this occurs even when there is no HDMI connection at all.

A quite ugly bug if you ask me!

Yah i'm using HDMI today and everything is fine and no issues whatsoever.

After some more calibration i have the system set up even better with just 1 bottom numbered bar on the spears and munsil test disc contrast calibration not showing completely ( it's faint) which is pretty close to as good as it gets outside of a professional calibrator coming around. ( yah the rest was calibrated too and not just contrast ) I tell ya calibrating takes a long time to do right and i was at it hours today.

Yep all fine now so it's using component in that causes that particular issue at least for my player and projector.
post #22103 of 38733
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

You can get the identical DACs with many of the Pioneer receivers at far less than $2k.

Charles,

Very good point concerning the DACs in the Pioneer receivers. I pause and think sometimes when people spend in excess of $2K for a DVD or Blu-ray transport then comment about how good the DACs are in the player. I would like to think that a person spending that kind of money on a transport should have a more than competent AVR or Pre/Pro. I think the money is better spent on a competent AVR or Pre/Pro with respectable DACs, therefore your entire system can benefit from the purchase.


Respectfully,
Willie
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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

charles,

very good point concerning the dacs in the pioneer receivers. I pause and think sometimes when people spend in excess of $2k for a dvd or blu-ray transport then comment about how good the dacs are in the player. I would like to think that a person spending that kind of money on a transport should have a more than competent avr or pre/pro. I think the money is better spent on a competent avr or pre/pro with respectable dacs, therefore your entire system can benefit from the purchase.


respectfully,
willie

+1
post #22105 of 38733
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Originally Posted by eharri View Post

I just purchased X-Men Origins and it will not play on my Oppo - it reads the text stating that the disk was made using the latest format but lock up after that. I thought that the disk was defective, but i plays on a Sony BD 350. Any thoughts?

This disk would not play in my player last night either. I have the latest Beta firmware installed. The disk played just fine in my first gen PS3 that I keep for these situations. I'm wondering if this is going to be a continued problem with new disks as they come out and this machine...... It's frustrating to go through this with a room full of folks waiting for a movie to start.
post #22106 of 38733
I just played a Netflix-sourced Blu-Ray of X-men Origins: Wolverine on my '83 and it had no trouble at all. I've had the player for a month or two, and updated firmware once when it was new. 1080p/24 output to a Panasonic 720p projector that can accept 1080p/24.

Strange that some versions of the same player won't play the disc, and even worse to consider that new firmware might remove disc compatibility that was there before!
post #22107 of 38733
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Originally Posted by bruff View Post

I just played a Netflix-sourced Blu-Ray of X-men Origins: Wolverine on my '83 and it had no trouble at all. I've had the player for a month or two, and updated firmware once when it was new. 1080p/24 output to a Panasonic 720p projector that can accept 1080p/24.

Strange that some versions of the same player won't play the disc, and even worse to consider that new firmware might remove disc compatibility that was there before!

Re-read the posts.

I don't know of any unplayable after:

1) BD-Live: OFF
2) If problem continues - erase persistent memory.

(I may have missed some player/post where this did persist as a problem, but it's not the general case).

Mike

EDIT:
PS - Welcome to AVS!
PS2 - (I guess you registered in 2004, so maybe I should say welcome to first post...)
post #22108 of 38733
What's up fella's.

Got my Oppo hooked up this past weekend and watched Wolverine Blu-Ray. I was underwhelmed with the movie itself and the DTS-HD MA 5.1. The video was pretty good (I hadn't yet calibrated the Oppo with my display and still haven't). I only changed one setting immediately because it'd have been un-watchable if I didn't, and that was the Brightness Setting on the Oppo. When I initially booted it up I almost had a corinary because the blacks on my 141FD looked closer to light grey! I turned the brightness on the Oppo to -16 and it seems to look close to normal, but still needs tweaking of course.

Anyway, to make an already long-winded post less so, I'll get on to my question.

Does anyone with a Pioneer PRO-141FD or similar display have some picture settings they can share with me? I'd like to use at least someone's calibrated settings in the mean time until I have enough time to properly dial-in my Oppo+PRO-141FD.

Would Source-Direct Mode + Pure Mode on the PRO-141FD look decent for the time being?
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+1
BD-Live is generally worthless and subject to the company's servers being overrun. Turn that feature Off, and forget about problem discs. I've never had a disc refuse to play, even prior to updating to the 09 firmware.
post #22110 of 38733
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Originally Posted by AuralXTC View Post

What's up fella's.

Got my Oppo hooked up this past weekend and watched Wolverine Blu-Ray. I was underwhelmed with the movie itself and the DTS-HD MA 5.1. The video was pretty good (I hadn't yet calibrated the Oppo with my display and still haven't). I only changed one setting immediately because it'd have been un-watchable if I didn't, and that was the Brightness Setting on the Oppo. When I initially booted it up I almost had a corinary because the blacks on my 141FD looked closer to light grey! I turned the brightness on the Oppo to -16 and it seems to look close to normal, but still needs tweaking of course.

Anyway, to make an already long-winded post less so, I'll get on to my question.

Does anyone with a Pioneer PRO-141FD or similar display have some picture settings they can share with me? I'd like to use at least someone's calibrated settings in the mean time until I have enough time to properly dial-in my Oppo+PRO-141FD.

Would Source-Direct Mode + Pure Mode on the PRO-141FD look decent for the time being?

Source direct is ONLY for use with an external video processor.

Your TV needs to be calibrated, not the player. All player setting should be default to start. The Pio 141 has been discussed in this thread a few times, so search here and in the Pio 141 thread.
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