Official OPPO BDP-83 Owner's Thread [technical talk only] - Page 911

Originally Posted by wmcclain

I've never heard of that. Color completely changed? Can you describe this in more detail?

I can only suggest more experimentation to try to diagnose this.

You are using HDMI?

Does toggling the Setup menu on and off do anything? Or switching output resolution to something else and back again? (Trying to force an HDMI handshake).

Is the Color Space set to Auto? Do you get different behavior if it is set to a specific value?

-Bill

Originally Posted by Wayne's TV

Yes, using HDMI. It happened while watching Polar Express DVD and Bolt Blu-Ray. I can't remember what colors changed but it seemed consistent (i.e. in both cases, the reds changed to the same color). I also noticed color change on Oppo screen but when I hit stop again, it changed back to blue. I didn't try toggling setup menu or output resolution. Color Space is set to Auto. I will try to replicate problem and try different solutions. Oppo is running via HDMI through a Marantz 6003 AVR to Panasonic plasma. Thanks

Originally Posted by bokes

will this player play all regions?

Originally Posted by rdgrimes

This is a HDMI handshake failure. Why it's happening at pause is a mystery, because the player does not initiate a handshake at pause. Set the color space to 4:4:4 and resolution to 1080p specific and see if that helps. Also turn off the screensaver mode.

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

I did the Official Firmware Update and the factory default reset. Subtitle shift works very nicely. I'm not quite clear on the OSD shift. Is it supposed to shift the top and bottom screen writing when pressing the Information button, or the popup menu bar at the bottom of a Bluray disc? Either one, I'm not seeing a difference after changing the setting from ) to 5. I must be misunderstanding something here.

Originally Posted by mattg3

In setting up my new oppo it seems like using the setting auto on 24p is a sane choice(not 24p conversion which shall remain off).Im mostly playing dvds upconverted to 1080p.Is my choice wrong and if so what could happen to my pq.

Originally Posted by wmcclain

With Auto 24hz the player asks your display if it supports 24hz and sets it on or off accordingly. No problem unless the display is lying.

Even if on this will have no affect on DVD unless you also set the DVD 24hz option to on.

-Bill

Originally Posted by wmcclain

After a reset 24hz should be off, both the general 1080p24 setting and the DVD setting. You shouldn't see the message when they are off.



I thought a reset put the subtitle shift value back to 0. I'll check it again.

-Bill

Originally Posted by mattg3

Thanks Bill,so I should set the 24p conversion on also?Back to my old question,if I do this could I cause some problems down the road?

Originally Posted by G.M.

Bill: Let me follow this up with the following (since I don't recall my previous settings prior to the FW install):

This is a quote that I printed out from a post on the Forum during or shortly after the EAP program:

"I recommend you use Auto resolution, then select 1080P24 output 'Auto or ON' (depends on the display), and DVD24P conversion 'ON'. This way you get 1080P@24hz for Blu-Ray or SD-DVD unless you are playing a 1080i@30hz Blu-Ray which yields 1080P@60hz display."

Do you agree with this? I've read the FAQs on 24Hz Output but I'm seeking confirmation that the above quote remains valid today.

(I have a Pio Pro 151-FD display)

-George

Originally Posted by G.M.

...I have a Pio Pro 151-FD display....

Originally Posted by wmcclain

OSD shift may still be buggy. It's been suggested that changes do not take effect until the next eject/reload but I haven't looked at it recently.

It's for the player OSD; shifts it toward the center so you can still see it when zooming.

-Bill

Originally Posted by gearguy77

My BDP-83 continues to to have problems with BD Live and Blu TV.

BD Live typically fails stating the the service is not available or the player is not connected to the internet. The BluTV feature errors out upon loading about half way through with a red loading bar. The error reported is " System Error. Please check your system and try again... Press [STOP] to exit."

However, the player's connection test passes and it's able to download firmware via the network connection. This leads me to believe it is a DNS issue.

• I'm using the latest firmware.

• I have tried connecting the BDP-83 directly to my D-Link DCM-202 cable modem.

• I've tried both auto and manual configuration of the BDP-83 using Comcast DNS servers (auto does retrieve correct settings).

• I've tried Google's public DNS servers.
• BD Live is set to on.

• The persistent memory is cleared.

This isn't a DNLA problem (DNLA works) or a Blu TV problem. This appears to be a problem with the BDP-83.

Is this possibly an issue with the BDP-83?

However, the player's connection test passes and it's able to download firmware via the network connection. This leads me to believe it is a DNS issue.

Originally Posted by wmcclain

As was just said:

• 1080p24 ON is ok if the display accepts 24hz
  
• DVD 24hz: opinions vary. If you don't want to worry about it, just leave it off.

-Bill

Originally Posted by Jim Hef

George, I leave DVD 24Hz On with my 5020, and the only thing I've seen with that setting is a short blip while it picks up the cadence of the DVD. It works fine for me on every disc that I've played, including concert DVDs. Someone stated that the player would automatically disengage this feature if the disc was authored in 30fps.

Originally Posted by gonk

If you have the Airport Express, just get a cheap network switch (I have a four-port Netgear switch behind my computer monitor right now), plug the AE into that, and plug both the DVR and BDP-83 into it as well. The two will then share the AE's wireless connection to the network.

Originally Posted by jmpage2

Considering the speed of the 83 I would think that something like Blu-TV would be a great option on it.

This is definitely where Blu-ray players are headed. A player that has an interface gateway such as Blu-TV with snap-in loadable modules supported so that the player immediately becomes a portal to a variety of devices and rich content.

If someone can get this to market and make it well supported then we could expect to see the following services on all mid to upper level Blu-ray players in the next year;

1. Place shifting (a la Sling Catcher) for watching live TV feeds from a receiver in another room.

2. Direct content delivery. Netflix, Hulu, Youtube, the possibilities here are endless.

3. Audio content delivery. Spotify, Pandora, LastFM, etc.

When these services become standard on our Blu-ray players we are going to wonder how we got along without them.

Originally Posted by wmcclain

DNS servers are sometimes flaky, but that would not be a player problem.

When you say:



...you're thinking that those functions use fixed IP addresses, bypassing DNS? I would be startled if that were true. Write this up for OPPO support and see what they say.

According to the release notes BluTV and DLNA are experimental and not supported, and BD-Live is notoriously troublesome at the studio end, so this may be hard to diagnose.

-Bill

Originally Posted by Magnefied

I received an Oppo BDP-83SE as a Christmas gift from my wife and kids. Prior to that we were using a 2007 vintage 60GB PS3 for Blu-Ray duty until it went belly up as early PS3's BD drives are famous for doing.

The PS3 frequently had problems reading Blu-Ray disks but continued reading DVD's, SACD's, and DVD's to the bloody end. Some were dirty and cleaning helped. The rest seemed to be related to a manufacturing defect in either the disk or the failing PS3 drive. So, I expected the Oppo to be a big improvement. It's three years newer technology than the PS3 and it's received rave reviews as a Blu-Ray and audio drive. I expected better read capability and error correction. So far, it's been flawless with any sort of audio format. But, in two weeks I've encountered two Netflix BD disks that refuse to read certain portions of the disk. One was visibly dirty with a fingerprint. However after cleaning, it still refused to read. The second had no problem visible to the naked eye.

So, are Blu-Ray disk manufacturers simply not exercising quality control in the production process? Are these tightly packed little slabs of data extremely sensitive to even tiny physical flaws or dust and dirt? Is the error correction standard inadequate? Does the Oppo suck like the PS3? Am I the only one experiencing problems? It's frustrating to spend a lot of money on technology that fails on a regular basis. I can easily see this being another nail in the coffin of physical media for me. Once the quality of streaming media reaches acceptable levels, there will be no reason to own a BD player or a bunch of hyper sensitive disks.

Originally Posted by gearguy77

Thanks for the reply.

I am thinking that those functions use a fixed IP, but I don't know enough about internet protocol to be surprised.

I asked Oppo and they said, "We highly recommend manually setting a DNS, as it is possible that your modem/router is not giving the BDP-83 a viable DNS."

I understand that Blu TV is not supported. I also stated the DNLA works. BD Live is a core feature of the Blu Ray spec, regardless of how valuable some feel it is. I haven't come across a disc with functional BD Live, and Blu TV never works.

It could very well be an issue with my modem and the BDP-83, but
I'm curious to know if anyone else has the same problems.

Thanks again.

Originally Posted by Magnefied

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The PS3 frequently had problems reading Blu-Ray disks but continued reading DVD's, SACD's, and DVD's to the bloody end. Some were dirty and cleaning helped. The rest seemed to be related to a manufacturing defect in either the disk or the failing PS3 drive. So, I expected the Oppo to be a big improvement. It's three years newer technology than the PS3 and it's received rave reviews as a Blu-Ray and audio drive. I expected better read capability and error correction. So far, it's been flawless with any sort of audio format. But, in two weeks I've encountered two Netflix BD disks that refuse to read certain portions of the disk. One was visibly dirty with a fingerprint. However after cleaning, it still refused to read. The second had no problem visible to the naked eye.

So, are Blu-Ray disk manufacturers simply not exercising quality control in the production process? Are these tightly packed little slabs of data extremely sensitive to even tiny physical flaws or dust and dirt? Is the error correction standard inadequate? Does the Oppo suck like the PS3? Am I the only one experiencing problems? It's frustrating to spend a lot of money on technology that fails on a regular basis. I can easily see this being another nail in the coffin of physical media for me. Once the quality of streaming media reaches acceptable levels, there will be no reason to own a BD player or a bunch of hyper sensitive disks.

Originally Posted by Styln

AssetUPNP on both

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/asset-upnp-dlna.htm

Styln