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post #27451 of 38733
^ Same here. Still haven't done the reset, used the new FW for about a week. All new features work.

However, I will do the reset later tonight...I keep forgetting, and it'll only take a minute to restore. There *may* be common BDP-83 configurations where the reset is mandatory for functionality, so that's why it's specified. I just happen to not be using one of those.
post #27452 of 38733
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Absolutely - their goal should be to make it so the average buyer won't run into any issues with a network firmware update. The average buyer isn't the typical AVS forum member and they aren't going to read the manual or tend to go to the web site to check for this sort of info - they're going to assume that if the player announces a firmware update is available and they say "yeah, install it" that it's all set once the player reboots (a perfectly reasonable assumption, IMHO). If the average buyer runs into a problem, they're going to call the dealer or manufacturer for help and it would be in Oppo's best interest to minimize those calls. In the end though, it's their choice if they want to risk fielding some extra support calls instead of adding something to the on screen instructions.

I 100% agree with your statements above. No "average buyer" would ever ever think to go read on a site somewhere instructions for post update/upgrade. Those that make that declaration are being ingenious. I would either expect the unit to prompt that a reset/clear will happen if you accept this upgrade or present the option and warnings to the user post update. Look at any PC and all the standard warnings users get when MS is about to do anything. Its what the user pays OPPO for in addition to that incredible piece if machinery.
post #27453 of 38733
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Originally Posted by progprog View Post

If you've eliminated the AVR as the cause, and experience amongst owners here suggests the Oppo isn't the cause, that leaves your projector. If that particular projector simply has that handshake issue and there's no known solution (I assume you've checked the JVC PJ threads), switching to component may be the only way to completely avoid the problem.

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Originally Posted by Timoxx4 View Post

Yes i guess i could do that. Would that be ok to do and still get 1080p 24hz over component with the same picture quality as HDMI ? So i guess i would just be using HDMI for lossless audio then and component for video. And disadvantage to doing this ?

My BenQ W5000 projector is a pig when it comes to handshaking - every other display with BD and/or HD DVD players is pretty quick, and the W5000 is slow with every BD/HD DVD player, so being slow with the BDP-83 is simply par for the course.

So I suspect the same is true with your JVC PJ. Sorry.

shinksma
post #27454 of 38733
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Originally Posted by sbjork View Post

Are you sure that it is the disc and not the movie? Stop Making Sense was filmed over the course of three nights to get all of the camera angles without having the cameras visible. For example, the on-stage closeups were shot on a completely different night than the long shots. While they matched the tempo for each song every night (there is one shot in the film where you can see drummer Chris Franz holding a headphone up to his ear before he starts playing to get the proper tempo,) there are of course minor differences between performances each night.

The bottom line is that as the movie cuts back and forth between shots that were filmed on different nights, it is using footage that does not always match up perfectly with the audio. There have always been minor sync issues even with the theatrical release.

Mind you, I do not have the Blu-Ray (yet!), but I have never had any sync issues with the DVD other than those that are inherent in the source material, and that is with the film being run through a scaler, so if anything it should be worse than the Blu-Ray.

I will have to pick up the Blu-Ray this weekend and check it out.

The DVD has synch issues which are on the disc. The audio leads the video. I wondered if the Blu-Ray would have the same issue. Now I know. Apparently this issue is in the source.
post #27455 of 38733
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Originally Posted by shinksma View Post

My BenQ W5000 projector is a pig when it comes to handshaking - every other display with BD and/or HD DVD players is pretty quick, and the W5000 is slow with every BD/HD DVD player, so being slow with the BDP-83 is simply par for the course.

So I suspect the same is true with your JVC PJ. Sorry.

shinksma

I've never had a problem with my W5000. I have the BDP-83 now but the Samsung 2550 was there for a couple of mos. before I had the Oppo.
post #27456 of 38733
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Originally Posted by cartload8 View Post

I upgraded to the latest official firmware release (1/5/10). Has anyone else noticed that the player now makes a noise when it is powered on? It sounds like it is coming from the drive.

I don't hear anything when mine is turned on.
post #27457 of 38733
I did the firmware update using a usb. No problems. I just went to setup devices. I could not find a reset to factory defaults choice.
post #27458 of 38733
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Originally Posted by slots1 View Post

I did the firmware update using a usb. No problems. I just went to setup devices. I could not find a reset to factory defaults choice.

Go to Setup Menu, then Device Setup, and then scroll all the way down to the bottom of the list (it isn't visible when you first enter the menu) to Reset Factory Defaults.
post #27459 of 38733
Hi, I have a quick question as follows.

Audio-wise, I connect my Oppo to a receiver via 6 analog cables and set all speakers to "Large". Where do I go to set subwoofer crossover (in OPPO, receiver, or subwoofer)?

Thank you very much.
post #27460 of 38733
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

... No "average buyer" would ever ever think to go read on a site somewhere instructions for post update/upgrade. Those that make that declaration are being ingenious...

And disingenuous.
post #27461 of 38733
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Originally Posted by teddo View Post

Hi, I have a quick question as follows.

Audio-wise, I connect my Oppo to a receiver via 6 analog cables and set all speakers to "Large". Where do I go to set subwoofer crossover (in OPPO, receiver, or subwoofer)?

Thank you very much.

You just set the subwoofer option (in the Oppo) to ON. If you run all the speakers as LARGE, you're running them at full-range and no crossovers apply. (They wouldn't be adjustable anyway, as they're fixed at 80Hz when the speakers are set to SMALL.)
post #27462 of 38733
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Not so fast. Every component in the chain is handshaking. Try bypassing the AVR for the sake of troubleshooting.

If you contact Oppo support, they can look into this. Since audio is being heard but no video, the odds are good that the display is the trouble but that doesn't mean that Oppo can't look into it.

Yes i have tried going straight from Oppo to projector with still no change. I have sent Oppo an email describing what is happening so mabey they can shed some light on it.
post #27463 of 38733
I've had my 83 since May no problems till now. My draw is starting to stick it comes about 1/3 of the way out and hesitates. Sometimes it stops and goes back in, sometimes it opens slowly and roughly. Has anyone seen this problem? I will call Oppo today about returning it, I know this won't be a problem because there such a great company.
post #27464 of 38733
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Originally Posted by tmauceri View Post

I've had my 83 since May no problems till now. My draw is starting to stick it comes about 1/3 of the way out and hesitates. Sometimes it stops and goes back in, sometimes it opens slowly and roughly. Has anyone seen this problem? I will call Oppo today about returning it, I know this won't be a problem because there such a great company.

It could be a hardware problem, but here is something to try:

Are you running current firmware? Check the three version numbers and make sure they match what is shown on the support web page.

Even if current it might be worth reloading all three parts of the firmware. You will have to use the USB or CD/DVD method to reinstall the same firmware that you already have; the network update won't do that.

-Bill
post #27465 of 38733
Any reason to upgrade if you play only sd dvds(at this time) and subtitle movement isnt a big thing for me?Ive had my player since December.
post #27466 of 38733
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Originally Posted by mattg3 View Post

Any reason to upgrade if you play only sd dvds(at this time) and subtitle movement isnt a big thing for me?Ive had my player since December.

A good rule to follow "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". If you don't see any problems or miss any features there's really no reason to update.

larry
post #27467 of 38733
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Originally Posted by mattg3 View Post

Any reason to upgrade if you play only sd dvds(at this time) and subtitle movement isnt a big thing for me?Ive had my player since December.

If it does what you want now then there is no urgent reason to upgrade. DVD is pretty stable by now, although we still see little compatibility improvements from time to time.

For me: I would keep a product like this up to date with current firmware.

-Bill
post #27468 of 38733
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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

Thanks to this thread for alerting us and a good suggestion about having the prompt during the firmware update.

However, we may want to get into the habit of reading the firmware upgrade instructions, because it clearly states in step 8 in bold letters "From the setup menu, select Device Setup, Reset Factory Default, and then choose OK to reset the player settings. Enter your customized settings as necessary after resetting.

I know in the future I will take the extra minute or so to read the instructions in addition too staying in touch with this thread.

When I manually pull software/firmware updates from a website, I read the release notes. However, for an appliance that pulls firmware updates directly from the internet like the Oppo does, why would there be an assumption that someone had read the release notes?

Best practice to go read the release notes to see what sort of fun goodies are there? Absolutely. Assuming users are going to go to a different device (computer), dig up the website and find/read the release notes for something that pulls updates automatically and expect that they'll do a step that is intermittent for updates? Not a well thought through process.

Jay
post #27469 of 38733
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Originally Posted by teddo View Post

Hi, I have a quick question as follows.

Audio-wise, I connect my Oppo to a receiver via 6 analog cables and set all speakers to "Large". Where do I go to set subwoofer crossover (in OPPO, receiver, or subwoofer)?

Thank you very much.

I don't know what receiver you have, but most do not provide bass management for the multichannel analog input. You need to set the speakers to "small" in the BDP-83 and make sure the sub is set to "on". This will provide bass management at the BDP-83.
post #27470 of 38733
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

And disingenuous.

ooh i wish this thing had spell check...geeks def are not expected to know how to spell..
post #27471 of 38733
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

ooh i wish this thing had spell check...geeks def are not expected to know how to spell..

If you are using Firefox (Mozilla), try the Spellbound Add-on (via the Tools -> Add-on menu). It automatically underlines misspelled words (and acronyms) as you type.

For MS Internet Explorer, there is IESpell. Haven't used it in a while but believe you start it by right-mousing in the text box.

Alan
post #27472 of 38733
I have to agree. I auto-downloaded the update via the Internet and would never have reset the device if it wasn't for this forum. Having read about it here, I did just that last night. But I feel the update itself should indicate on the screen that this step is required.

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Originally Posted by rolette View Post

When I manually pull software/firmware updates from a website, I read the release notes. However, for an appliance that pulls firmware updates directly from the internet like the Oppo does, why would there be an assumption that someone had read the release notes?

Best practice to go read the release notes to see what sort of fun goodies are there? Absolutely. Assuming users are going to go to a different device (computer), dig up the website and find/read the release notes for something that pulls updates automatically and expect that they'll do a step that is intermittent for updates? Not a well thought through process.

Jay
post #27473 of 38733
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Originally Posted by KenB123 View Post

...and would never have reset the device if it wasn't for this forum....

This is a very good point, and one that I never would have considered. Oppo may need to implement that pop-up screen should it require another step, or rework the update procedure to eliminate the reset. This may have been a one time need since we've never been required to do this before.
post #27474 of 38733
There were at least 2 other releases that required a reset, Jim.

I like the idea of a "pop up" informing of when this is required, however. That''s a good idea. I think one poster actually emailed Oppo and requested this feature.
post #27475 of 38733
Hello all,

Last night my wife and I decided to watch District 9 on Blu ray...when I turned on the OPPO saw that there was a FW update (my OPPO is connected to the internet)...d/loaded the FW and found that the settings in my OPPO were messed up - now unfortunately for me I had got UMR to calibrate my projector and whole HT and the settings in my OPPO are gone (is this a normal thing)...in addition to that when I popped the D9 disc the subtitles (when the aliens are talking) were not visible (we could only see a part of that)...so I went back and had to Reset to Factory defaults which cleared the subtitles problem....only issue now is to get my settings back...
post #27476 of 38733
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Originally Posted by maximus1971 View Post

Hello all,

Last night my wife and I decided to watch District 9 on Blu ray...when I turned on the OPPO saw that there was a FW update (my OPPO is connected to the internet)...d/loaded the FW and found that the settings in my OPPO were messed up - now unfortunately for me I had got UMR to calibrate my projector and whole HT and the settings in my OPPO are gone (is this a normal thing)...in addition to that when I popped the D9 disc the subtitles (when the aliens are talking) were not visible (we could only see a part of that)...so I went back and had to Reset to Factory defaults which cleared the subtitles problem....only issue now is to get my settings back...

Sorry for your trouble. You can see that subtitle issues with District 9 have been reported a few times by others: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/searc...rchid=14595469

There is a PDF BDP-83 Settings Checklist to help in noting your settings should you need to do a reset in the future.

-Bill
post #27477 of 38733
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Originally Posted by stevec325 View Post

There were at least 2 other releases that required a reset, Jim....

I don't recall that other than the "normal" suggestion to do the reset.
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Originally Posted by maximus1971 View Post

...only issue now is to get my settings back...

Is it possible that UMR wrote down the settings after he changed them? Do you know that he tweaked the player also?
post #27478 of 38733
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

A good rule to follow "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". If you don't see any problems or miss any features there's really no reason to update.

larry

Thanks,makes sense to me
post #27479 of 38733
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Originally Posted by sbjork View Post

Are you sure that it is the disc and not the movie?

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Originally Posted by kellybob View Post

The DVD has synch issues which are on the disc. The audio leads the video. I wondered if the Blu-Ray would have the same issue. Now I know. Apparently this issue is in the source.

The sync issues are in the actual film for the reasons sbjork described. I should have checked IMDB earlier, because that is listed there.

Oh well, it never hurts to play around with the settings on our toys. I'll chalk this up to a learning experience.
post #27480 of 38733
I just purchased two SACD's (Rhapsody in Blue & Richard Strauss in High Fidelity). They are both from the old RCA Living Stereo collection. Now I realize that they are only using the front three channels and the Rhapsody In Blue works (and sounds great), but the other (Richard Strauss) in not using the center channel. The Richard Strauss is showing on the splash screen STEREO whereas the other shows 5.0 and lights up the multi channel decoding light on my AVR. So, is the Richard Strauss SACD defective? Or am I missing something here....
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