Sheesh, I checked in this morning and then my wife asked me to fix her itunes... most of the day and 9 pages later...
Perhaps not many but it looks like I am not alone. I think the implementation of s-video is well understood and of no material cost impact.
Understood. In the near term my setup is all s-video, and with an older video switching only AVR, one change in hookup requires that all others be changed too (converters not withstanding). Soon I will go to HDMI, but with a DVDR it now require a second analog connection for recording inputs which I prefer to be s-video.
Are you saying that HD video won't be output on the composite connection? If it does down convert then the s-video would be little more trouble.
I am looking at the Z7 which will up/down convert to the monitor outputs. This is a possible compromise buy won't let you record one source while viewing another, so limits flexibility. I like Yamaha receivers yet they have no current unit that support s-video as a zone 2 or greater output.
True, though I am looking at one that does, but see my note above re. flexibility. The recording loop for a DVR/DVDR is best served as analog in and out. Thanks for the tip on the converter, I am checking it out.
Thanks Bob, I didn't know these types of converters existed, certainly cheap enough to try. I was looking at a $150 composite to s-video converter, this may be a better option. Any idea how it works?
Thanks Stof, though the round end does not appear to be s-video on that unit.
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Originally Posted by Princess Aurora 
...you might literally be the only person who needs it. The only reason a composite output is provided is for troubleshooting...
Leaving out an s-video output keeps the cost down for Oppo. It's probably not much in terms of connectors/hardware, but it makes the output circuit board slightly less complicated and is one less thing that needs to be worried about in firmware. It probably saves them several dollars per unit in that regard.
...you might literally be the only person who needs it. The only reason a composite output is provided is for troubleshooting...
Leaving out an s-video output keeps the cost down for Oppo. It's probably not much in terms of connectors/hardware, but it makes the output circuit board slightly less complicated and is one less thing that needs to be worried about in firmware. It probably saves them several dollars per unit in that regard.
Perhaps not many but it looks like I am not alone. I think the implementation of s-video is well understood and of no material cost impact.
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Originally Posted by wmcclain
Note that s-video, like composite, it limited to 480i/576i. You can't get high-definition or even progressive standard definition signals over either. So they have almost no usefulness on a Blu-ray player. For diagnostic purposes, as was said, but you don't need both for that.
-Bill
Note that s-video, like composite, it limited to 480i/576i. You can't get high-definition or even progressive standard definition signals over either. So they have almost no usefulness on a Blu-ray player. For diagnostic purposes, as was said, but you don't need both for that.
-Bill
Understood. In the near term my setup is all s-video, and with an older video switching only AVR, one change in hookup requires that all others be changed too (converters not withstanding). Soon I will go to HDMI, but with a DVDR it now require a second analog connection for recording inputs which I prefer to be s-video.
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Originally Posted by gonk
The 83's output can provide 1080i in many cases, including Blu-ray content (assuming nobody starts turning on the ICT), video files, and non-CSS encrypted DVD's. If you have a commercial DVD, it will typically have CSS and will thus be limited to 480p via component output.
The 83's output can provide 1080i in many cases, including Blu-ray content (assuming nobody starts turning on the ICT), video files, and non-CSS encrypted DVD's. If you have a commercial DVD, it will typically have CSS and will thus be limited to 480p via component output.
Are you saying that HD video won't be output on the composite connection? If it does down convert then the s-video would be little more trouble.
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Originally Posted by WilliamZX11
I don't see why the player would need s-video to do that. I connect both my DVD player and BD player with HDMI. On both my PR-SC885 and RX-V1500, even though the source is HDMI, both the s-video and composite will output video to my garage (zone 2), and computer room (zone 3). No need to hook s-video from the player to the processor.
I don't see why the player would need s-video to do that. I connect both my DVD player and BD player with HDMI. On both my PR-SC885 and RX-V1500, even though the source is HDMI, both the s-video and composite will output video to my garage (zone 2), and computer room (zone 3). No need to hook s-video from the player to the processor.
I am looking at the Z7 which will up/down convert to the monitor outputs. This is a possible compromise buy won't let you record one source while viewing another, so limits flexibility. I like Yamaha receivers yet they have no current unit that support s-video as a zone 2 or greater output.
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Originally Posted by shinksma
Very few medium-end receivers (like my Onkyo 606) will do the down-conversion from HDMI to analog composite/S-video. If the poster doesn't have a pre-pro of the same caliber as yours, then S-video/composite direct from source may be the only option for the kitchen TV.
That being said, considering composite to S-video converters are available pretty cheaply, I wouldn't call it the end of the world to use that solution as a work-around to the lack of S-video on the Oppo.
See http://www.svideo.com/rcatosvideo.html for example. Not sure if this is the best device, but it sure is cheap!
Very few medium-end receivers (like my Onkyo 606) will do the down-conversion from HDMI to analog composite/S-video. If the poster doesn't have a pre-pro of the same caliber as yours, then S-video/composite direct from source may be the only option for the kitchen TV.
That being said, considering composite to S-video converters are available pretty cheaply, I wouldn't call it the end of the world to use that solution as a work-around to the lack of S-video on the Oppo.
See http://www.svideo.com/rcatosvideo.html for example. Not sure if this is the best device, but it sure is cheap!
True, though I am looking at one that does, but see my note above re. flexibility. The recording loop for a DVR/DVDR is best served as analog in and out. Thanks for the tip on the converter, I am checking it out.
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau
If you need to, you can use an inexpensive Composite to S-Video in-line converter, e.g.:
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-SVC2-Ja...ref=pd_sim_e_1
If you need to, you can use an inexpensive Composite to S-Video in-line converter, e.g.:
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-SVC2-Ja...ref=pd_sim_e_1
Thanks Bob, I didn't know these types of converters existed, certainly cheap enough to try. I was looking at a $150 composite to s-video converter, this may be a better option. Any idea how it works?
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Originally Posted by Stof
Paul you can get a component to S-video converter...
http://www.thenerds.net/CABLES_TO_GO...0058-2&affid=3
Paul you can get a component to S-video converter...
http://www.thenerds.net/CABLES_TO_GO...0058-2&affid=3
Thanks Stof, though the round end does not appear to be s-video on that unit.
