Originally Posted by joerod
As many know I have had the Oppo since nearly day one last year. It has been a fun journey helping develop a player from start to finish. I would like to thank Oppo for allowing me the privilege to participate. I am going to post "my take" on my impressions of the BDP 83 unit. I will be as brief as possible and try to get right to the point. To save you from more suspense I will just come right out and say as of today's date the Oppo Blu ray player is the king of the $1000 and under market. It also comes very close to the Big 3 and quite honestly it is again like splitting hairs picking a player these days. I am being asked by many to finally post my thoughts and believe me when I say it is a very hard decision picking which player is the best. Actually, I can't pick which player is the best for everybody. What I can do is help assist in picking a player to best fit your needs and your budget. Let me get started...
What I really like about the Oppo...The menu is very simple. Picking options from color space selections to doing a firmware check is as easy as it gets. I also really like being able to pick a "deep" color bit (30 or 36) so that way you know you have it activated. No guessing or wondering. The effects of activating them though have been largely debated here at AVS. I am not looking to start another one but I will just say I like this feature being in the menu. I also really like the "tweak-ability" this player brings to the table. Just by checking out the manual you will see they have even included Detail and Edge enhancements. Those settings remind me exactly what I get from the Edge VP. Speaking of the menu I also like the vast amount of options there are for the audio side to. Being able to pick everything sure takes the wondering out of setting up a player. I wish other manufacturers would make it this easy. So how well do all these settings actually do with real world video and audio...?
I can say the Oppo Blu ray unit will not leave anyone out there disappointed. It is the real deal and will rival all the high end players that are on the market today. I will also say that with Oppo being able to achieve the performance they have at this price level the other companies will have to reconsider their pricing. The pic Q is excellent. And yes, 1080p/24 is on par with the other players. The audio is also impressive. I can say again (in case you missed my first paragraph) the Oppo BDP-83 is the absolute king of the under $1000 market. How does it compare to the Big 3?
In doing many comparisons with the Big 3 (Denon 3800, Sony S5000ES & Pioneer 09FD) the Oppo was very close. It rivaled them which to me alone is the biggest compliment I can give the Oppo Blu ray player. Especially when you consider the price differences! Is it better though? If money were no object which would I pick? I am taking that question and replacing it with a new absolute question... If I were on an island and I just happened to have a PJ, Pre/Pro, AMP, speakers and subwoofer- not to mention a bed sheet hanging between two palm trees (let alone electricity) which ONE player would I want? Well the Oppo sure does weigh less so it would be easier to carry around.
Of course having dual HDMI outs (like the 09FD) does make a set up more flexible but I won't hold that against the Oppo. If I had a ton of SD dvds and just a few Blu ray titles then I would have to pick the 09FD since it is still the best I have seen with SD dvd upconversion. It is not a night and day difference though. Performance is close but the difference is noticable. For those who love my percentages -5.5% to 7.5%- better.
I plan to post another mini take when the final firmware hits for the Oppo's main release. So it may not be fair at the current moment to pick one. Some could say the same against the Pioneer since for the general Public it currently does not decode DTS-HD Master. It soon will for everybody. I have purposely waited to post "my take" on the Oppo since with each new firmware it seems to improve even more. I am finally giving into the pressure of emails and PMs asking me to say something.
So how about Blu ray performance? At 1080p/24 they are all very close. Just having to go back and forth a few scenes is a HUGE compliment to the Oppo against the 2k players. The biggest difference is depth of image (TheBland was right!
) but that does not make them night and day. I want everyone to understand that just because I may not pick the Oppo as my starter as of today does not mean I consider it any less a player. In fact it is quite the opposite. Actually for those keeping score in the load times stat the Oppo is the absolute king of all stand alones. Only slightly bested by the PS3. So if you are one of those inpatient folks then this may be the player for you. I meant it when I mentioned I would try and help people pick the best player for them either by needs or budget!
As for audio, without getting in deep I will say it does a very good job. The build Q is not as stout as the 3800, S5000ES or 09FD but it is hard to hear the differences. Still though, with blind testing (ears included) the other units may have a slight advantage. Again though, it is like splitting hairs. The remote control is simple and lights up. The buttons are not to close or to small. It is a decent size and does not feel like it is going to fall apart in your hand...
Conclusion... So to sum up again my thoughts. The BDP-83 is going to be a strong force to deal with. Not only for sub 1k players but also for the Big 3. The BDP-83 is a true Universal Blu ray player. The only thing it doesn't seem to play is HD DVDs!
The company who should be most concerned is Denon and their new Money Monster player hitting soon. If you think the differences are slight against the 2k players just wait and see how slight they could be against their $4500 (unless it has gone up since yesterday
) beast! At that price I consider the Pioneer 09FD a bargain!
If you are on the fence and have the Oppo-rtunity (I like that) to get one you should definitely try one out. If you believe in pounds versus performance and aren't worried about saving extra coin for movies or another area that needs an upgrade then you could splurge for one of the big 3 or the new Denon Money Monster. Either way know this- The Oppo BDP-83 is a great player and deserves the hype.
I am planning to do an extensive comparison bewteen the Oppo BDP-83CHT and the Big 3...
You may have guessed it. I will attempt to compare the Oppo, 09FD, S5000ES and new Denon! Just like before only now with a few new twists.
After that- after that?
Probably take a hiatus!!!