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post #31711 of 38733
5/20/10 at 8:51pm
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Originally Posted by Something_Soft View Post

Why is there overscan on my TV? It's a 46" Panasonic G15.

On my Panasonic 37LZ800, I get dot for dot by setting HD Size to Size 2 in the advanced picture settings. I also have the picture format set to full. Yours is probably similar.
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post #31712 of 38733
5/21/10 at 6:26am
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Originally Posted by paul416 View Post

I'm happy to annouce that as of yesterday I'm a proud owner of e new OPPO 83. I had to wait several weeks after I bought at the AV store I purchased it from. Does that mean I most likely have the latest firmware? How can I find out? Thanks.

paul416,

Any particular reason why you did not order directly from Oppo, Amazon.com or from one of the other authorized dealers? It would have definately not taken SEVERAL weeks.


Respectfully,
Willie
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post #31713 of 38733
5/21/10 at 7:23am
Updated to latest official FW last night. Checked that correct versions were installed. Did the factory reset (always do that to get a clean start).

Anyway, as been reported, the DLNA Streaming functionality is not as robust anymore. So far only mkv files plays while streaming. DivX and AVI doesn't play, don't even show up. I just get a non supported file format message.

Anyway, reverted back to the Beta version (I always keep older FW as backup - have 'em back to even before the Sign implementation) and sure enough, everything works and streams as it should.

I'm using PS3 Media Server latest beta build.

So I'll check in the DLNA thread to see what's going on, and stick to the Beta version in the mean time.

Cheers
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post #31714 of 38733
5/21/10 at 9:04am
Yeah seriously. Several weeks? It took me 5 days to receive with standard mail to NYC directly from OPPO.
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post #31715 of 38733
5/21/10 at 10:24am
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Originally Posted by Jim Hef View Post

Because TV broadcast channels aren't quite as well done as what the Oppo will do for a video signal. Set your panel to whatever it's called for no overscan, and you'll see a couple of pixels at the top that show a scan line, especially during commercials. I don't recall what this is referred as, but it's there, and some amount of overscan will avoid it being shown. Not a problem with Blu-ray or upconverted DVD, so if you can, set the input of the player for no overscan, and you'll get the pristine playback. Set the input of your cable box to overscan slightly.

I've always seen it referred to as the metadata in the broadcast signal.
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post #31716 of 38733
5/21/10 at 10:58am
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Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post

Anyway, as been reported, the DLNA Streaming functionality is not as robust anymore. So far only mkv files plays while streaming. DivX and AVI doesn't play, don't even show up. I just get a non supported file format message.

DivX and XviD were never supported over DLNA (have not tried PS3 Media Server, but all other servers I have used never populated AVI files). You always needed to perform a transcode on the fly using your DLNA server or muxing them into an MKV container.
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post #31717 of 38733
5/21/10 at 11:51am
lately, been getting longer load time. loading and sometimes error about unknown disc or no disc. sometimes i have to open, close like 3-4 time or reboot to play.
This happen to both DVD and blu-ray
is there a problem with my unit? anyone experience similar issue?
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post #31718 of 38733
5/21/10 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by densma View Post

lately, been getting longer load time. loading and sometimes error about unknown disc or no disc. sometimes i have to open, close like 3-4 time or reboot to play.
This happen to both DVD and blu-ray
is there a problem with my unit? anyone experience similar issue?

Is it loaded with the newest firmware? And if it is did you do a reset afterwards? If not to either of these, try it and see if it cures it. If you did these, contact OPPO.
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post #31719 of 38733
5/21/10 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by densma View Post

lately, been getting longer load time. loading and sometimes error about unknown disc or no disc. sometimes i have to open, close like 3-4 time or reboot to play.
This happen to both DVD and blu-ray
is there a problem with my unit? anyone experience similar issue?

I have found that the load times have increased. Still better than my last player but I have resorted to loading the disk early (i.e. while still watching evening news) then it is ready when I want. Also gets around needing to watch previews.
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post #31720 of 38733
5/21/10 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by densma View Post

lately, been getting longer load time. loading and sometimes error about unknown disc or no disc. sometimes i have to open, close like 3-4 time or reboot to play.
This happen to both DVD and blu-ray
is there a problem with my unit? anyone experience similar issue?

That sounds like a hardware problem. Try the general cleanup procedure here: What do I do if a Blu-ray disc will not load or play, or if it freezes the player? If that doesn't help, contact OPPO.

-Bill
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post #31721 of 38733
5/21/10 at 12:38pm
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

That sounds like a hardware problem. Try the general cleanup procedure here: What do I do if a Blu-ray disc will not load or play, or if it freezes the player? If that doesn't help, contact OPPO.

-Bill

I'm getting the same thing, but only on BDs. Some will never play at all ("Red Cliff- Intrn'l Ed."). Everything plays fine on my PS3. The "general cleanup procedure" didn't help.
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post #31722 of 38733
5/21/10 at 12:46pm
yeah. i did factory reset after after the firmware upgrade.
bd-live is off but will try Erase BD-Video Data not sure if that will help.
if not will call them for support.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

That sounds like a hardware problem. Try the general cleanup procedure here: What do I do if a Blu-ray disc will not load or play, or if it freezes the player? If that doesn't help, contact OPPO.

-Bill
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post #31723 of 38733
5/21/10 at 1:12pm
it seems that the internal flash memory is having problems. its getting corupted. I suggest using a USB. I have talked with oppo about it.

Jacob
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post #31724 of 38733
5/21/10 at 1:33pm
The identifier that the Oppo sends to PS3 Media server changed you have to change the UserAgentSearch string in the .conf file to "BDP-83" from whatever was there before.

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Originally Posted by Vagabond View Post

Updated to latest official FW last night. Checked that correct versions were installed. Did the factory reset (always do that to get a clean start).

Anyway, as been reported, the DLNA Streaming functionality is not as robust anymore. So far only mkv files plays while streaming. DivX and AVI doesn't play, don't even show up. I just get a non supported file format message.

Anyway, reverted back to the Beta version (I always keep older FW as backup - have 'em back to even before the Sign implementation) and sure enough, everything works and streams as it should.

I'm using PS3 Media Server latest beta build.

So I'll check in the DLNA thread to see what's going on, and stick to the Beta version in the mean time.

Cheers
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post #31725 of 38733
5/21/10 at 2:02pm
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Originally Posted by putox1051 View Post

Some will never play at all ("Red Cliff- Intrn'l Ed.").

Played fine on mine.
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post #31726 of 38733
5/21/10 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by putox1051 View Post

I'm getting the same thing, but only on BDs. Some will never play at all ("Red Cliff- Intrn'l Ed."). Everything plays fine on my PS3. The "general cleanup procedure" didn't help.

"Red Cliff" International Edition BD played fine on both of my two Oppo BDP-83 players. First time through on each player, the disc played fine with the prior official FW. More recently. the disc also played fine on each player after upgrading to the current new FW...
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post #31727 of 38733
5/21/10 at 6:14pm
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Originally Posted by Cheezmo View Post

The identifier that the Oppo sends to PS3 Media server changed you have to change the UserAgentSearch string in the .conf file to "BDP-83" from whatever was there before.

Can you post the folder and file name of the .conf file you're referring to? I have PS3 Media Server installed on a Win7 64 bit system, and I find only "web.conf" which doesn't have a "UserAgentSearch" string.
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post #31728 of 38733
5/22/10 at 5:26am
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Can you post the folder and file name of the .conf file you're referring to? I have PS3 Media Server installed on a Win7 64 bit system, and I find only "web.conf" which doesn't have a "UserAgentSearch" string.

To find what you are looking for, check out the the first post in http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1215071 ; the file may be called "OppoBDP83.conf". IIRC, there is more information about the location of that file for Win7 later in the forum - search on Win 7 or Windows 7

It looks like the "BDP-83" change needed by the latest firmware has been made at that location.

Alan.
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post #31729 of 38733
5/22/10 at 9:41am
I have read through so many threads and the FAQ's on this topic and I am still not sure if I need to boost LFE 10db relative to my other channels when using analog outs to my reciever.

I am almost certain that my reciever does not apply any LFE boost on the external in inputs. In general does this mean that I set my SW levels 10 db higher as suggested in the 83's FAQ's.

More specifically, calibrating levels with the AIX disk using a SPL meter; the subwoofer level should be set (either in the reciever or the subwoofoer gain control) to read 10 db higher on the SPL meter than the other channels. Is this correct?
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post #31730 of 38733
5/22/10 at 11:05am
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Originally Posted by erniec View Post

I have read through so many threads and the FAQ's on this topic and I am still not sure if I need to boost LFE 10db relative to my other channels when using analog outs to my reciever.

I am almost certain that my reciever does not apply any LFE boost on the external in inputs. In general does this mean that I set my SW levels 10 db higher as suggested in the 83's FAQ's.

More specifically, calibrating levels with the AIX disk using a SPL meter; the subwoofer level should be set (either in the reciever or the subwoofoer gain control) to read 10 db higher on the SPL meter than the other channels. Is this correct?

No you need to calibrate every speaker to 85db including the SW, when my system was calibrated my SW was at +9db. You need to set the SW volume to reference or 12 oclock. Most newer receivers has the feature to boost the SW, mine does not.
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post #31731 of 38733
5/22/10 at 11:32am
Anybody owns both BDP-83 and the Onkyo TX-SR875? If so PM me please.
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post #31732 of 38733
5/22/10 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by Techlord View Post

No you need to calibrate every speaker to 85db including the SW, when my system was calibrated my SW was at +9db. You need to set the SW volume to reference or 12 oclock. Most newer receivers has the feature to boost the SW, mine does not.

Techlord

Thanks for the response but I am still confused. Are you saying that when you calibrated your levels that you compensated for the -10 LFE level by turning up your sub gain to +9? My reciever does not apply any boost via analog inputs but it automatically applies the boost on it's digital inputs. I can adjust trim levels for each channel on tha analog in.

I guess the real answer or question is that with the AIX disk (or other test disks) the LFE level should be the same as the other channels as opposed to a 10db higher reading on a SPL meter.
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post #31733 of 38733
5/22/10 at 12:29pm
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Originally Posted by erniec View Post

Techlord

Thanks for the response but I am still confused. Are you saying that when you calibrated your levels that you compensated for the -10 LFE level by turning up your sub gain to +9? My reciever does not apply any boost via analog inputs but it automatically applies the boost on it's digital inputs. I can adjust trim levels for each channel on tha analog in.

I guess the real answer or question is that with the AIX disk (or other test disks) the LFE level should be the same as the other channels as opposed to a 10db higher reading on a SPL meter.

All you need to do is calibrate all speakers including your subwoofer to 85db using the speaker level trims, then record where all of your speaker trim levels are for future reference. You do not need any boost since you are going to be calibrating all of your speaker using the speaker level trims, do all calibrating using the sound level preasure meter at the center or the sweat spot where you will be sitting. Hope this helps.

I just install several acoustic panels on the walls and need to recalibrate my whole system yet again, lol!
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post #31734 of 38733
5/22/10 at 1:24pm
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Originally Posted by erniec View Post

I guess the real answer or question is that with the AIX disk (or other test disks) the LFE level should be the same as the other channels as opposed to a 10db higher reading on a SPL meter.

Yes. Calibration discs are designed so that you can set all speakers, including the sub, at the same SPL meter reading.

Calibrating for either analog or digital is pretty straightforward. The challenges arise when you need to calibrate for both. If you are just doing analog, you can simply turn up the sub, which provides the needed 10-15dB boost. But, turning up the sub doubles the boost for digital. So, you need to find some combination of sub and processor level trims that gives you the right calibration for both analog and digital.
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5/22/10 at 1:30pm
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Originally Posted by erniec View Post

I guess the real answer or question is that with the AIX disk (or other test disks) the LFE level should be the same as the other channels as opposed to a 10db higher reading on a SPL meter.

Think of it this way: if you play the test disk through the same path (i.e. analog) that you will use for real disks, then whatever happens (boost or no boost) must be the same for the test disk as it is for other disks. Therefore if you balance all the levels to the same SPL with the test disk you will be good for other disks too.

But that's just for the analog path if that's how you do the calibration. Depending on your reciever, there's a chance that balancing things for multi-channel analog will upset any calibration you have for digital inputs. This is one of several reasons why multi-channel analog is probably not worth the effort for most people.
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5/22/10 at 1:35pm
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Originally Posted by offten View Post

To find what you are looking for, check out the the first post in http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1215071 ; the file may be called "OppoBDP83.conf". IIRC, there is more information about the location of that file for Win7 later in the forum - search on Win 7 or Windows 7

It looks like the "BDP-83" change needed by the latest firmware has been made at that location.

Alan.

Thanks for the information.
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post #31737 of 38733
5/22/10 at 1:46pm
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Think of it this way: if you play the test disk through the same path (i.e. analog) that you will use for real disks, then whatever happens (boost or no boost) must be the same for the test disk as it is for other disks. Therefore if you balance all the levels to the same SPL with the test disk you will be good for other disks too.

But that's just for the analog path if that's how you do the calibration. Depending on your reciever, there's a chance that balancing things for multi-channel analog will upset any calibration you have for digital inputs. This is one of several reasons why multi-channel analog is probably not worth the effort for most people.


Thanks for help

Yeah this what I thought and normally do but all of the talk about LFE boost had me overthink the subject
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post #31738 of 38733
5/23/10 at 9:24am
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Originally Posted by bakerwi View Post

paul416,

Any particular reason why you did not order directly from Oppo, Amazon.com or from one of the other authorized dealers? It would have definately not taken SEVERAL weeks.


Respectfully,
Willie

Just got back from a long weekend, so I'm catching up. I ordered from an AV store that was also going to install several other pieces and redoing my whole system. I couldn't do it. They had one OPPO in stock but by the time I decided on getting it, that unit has been sold. The salesperson told me they had to order my unit and it would be about 5-9 working days. They had it in seven but I wasn't available to have it brought out and installed for two weeks.
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post #31739 of 38733
5/23/10 at 2:25pm
Are there any advantages to ordering an 83 directly from OPPO as opposed to ordering from Audioholics or another authorized retailer?
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post #31740 of 38733
5/23/10 at 3:29pm
Yes, OPPO gets more of the money.
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