Official OPPO BDP-83 Owner's Thread [technical talk only] - Page 1061

There are no Blu ray or DVD discs using deep color. The HDMI standards group is great about preaching about future standards that never happen. You will notice a little less banding if you enable 30 bit or 36 bit deep color on the BDP-83 usually. I would simply try all the settings and see what looks best being that your display supports deep color.

With this player, that is not a problem. You would be able to have it upgraded by simply sending it back to Oppo at a future time when cash is more available.

yes, that is a classic symptom of needing a firmware update... get the current public update for May 5th, and be sure to do the factory reset and persistent storage clearing afterwards. Before you do the reset, make a note of any of your current menu settings you've made that are different from the Defaults, so you can easily re-enter them afterwards.

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Hi there.

I have bought a Panasonic TX-P42G20 plasma TV european model ( I live in Norway)

Will the OPPO BDP-83 and my new TV work excellent together or be a mismatch?

Fanitullen

I just got a surprising notice from Overture Audio/Video in Wilmington Del. saying they are now carrying the Oppo line. This is a typical high end, high markup boutique that has started to carry a few lower priced lines. It seems to signal a change in marketing strategy for Oppo in the US. This is very different from reselling through Audio Advisor, primarily an internet retailler.

This can certainly help Oppo gain the legitimacy it deserves from high end buyers. That's good. I also like it because it will likely put an HDMI-capable, SACD-compatible machine in their Mch HT demo rooms. Surprisingly, many dealers have not had one available to them. Blu-ray, yes, but SACD, no, at least not with HDMI. That, in turn, might give more music linteners access to demos of Mch SACD, which I happen to think is about the best msic reproduction there is.

The fear is that this might signal a shift for Oppo away from their direct internet sales model. This has helped all of us get a great product at a staggeringly low price, without typical retailler markup. The retaillers are probably content for now carrying it as a low margin "loss leader" to attract customers. But, I am sure they will be sweet talking Oppo into higher prices with higher margins for the dealers. That could be bad.

I sure hope I am wrong about what this signifies. Time will tell.

^^^

it's certainly a change in strategy for overture... that wasn't a very "consumer friendly" place in the past...

could it mean we might see OPPO show up in dare I say BB?

The Oppo will work fine with your TV. It is designed to handle European and American video standards. There will be two issues, one minor and the other a little more significant.

For the minor one, you will have to buy the appropriate aftermarket power cord to connect to your native electrical outlet since the Oppo ships with one designed for North American plugs. The connector on the Oppo is standard, so you should have no trouble finding a compatible cable.

The more serious issue is that the Oppo is set up and locked for Region 1 DVD and Zone A Blu-Ray. It will play Region 0 DVDs and non-zone-coded Blu-Ray discs fine but you will not be able to play every disc you may acquire in Norway. There are aftermarket modification kits that make the Oppo region-free for both DVD and Blu-Ray but installing one will void your warranty, so you will take some risks there. The best region-free kit comes from nearby to you Denmark, by the way. Firmware upgrades will work fine with the modded player though.

The Oppo is not officially sold in Europe but I believe there are dealers there who purchase in North America and modify the players. They may have their own warranties but it will not be directly from Oppo.

For that small group of us with lagging audio problems, I finally gave up and sent off an email to OPPO. They responded very quickly, but unfortunately it's not something they can address in an update--and I'll just accept that they know what they're talking about.

I hate to be negative, but I really could care less what "High End" buyers think of the Oppo, or its pricetag. Let them spend money hand over fist for sometimes dubious reasons. (Often I think it is for no other reason than to impress their friends and themselves) It's a fantastic machine with first-class customer service. I like where the company stands at this point & I hope their basic principles stay the same.

I could care less myself, but Oppo or any manufacturer cannot have one price for direct internet sales and antother for retail sales. That is just unworkable. It's not an issue for the BDP-83. That price will likely not change much and it will be the same no matter where you buy it. My concern is about future products if they give emphasis to the retailers, who will want a higher price with a more typical (high) margin. We will then all pay that. I am much happier with them being a maverick internet sales company. That's pretty much why we are all here.

I have an issue when playing Patton on BR disc. e.g. picture only shows up in the top left corner of the HDTV. Did this after I installed the latest FW>

Per the fw instructions, did you reset the player to factory default settings, then reconfigure the settings taylored to your own setup?
Try also clearing persistent storage before doing a reset.

Yes ..I forgot to add...that I did contact Oppo and they stated that this was a known issue and would be corrected via a future FW upgrade.

DOH!!!!!



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Hello to Norway, my favourite country
I have exactly the same combination and I have to say P42G20 is excelent TV for OPPO, probably the best for its price. I have 42" too, and I'm really very happy with it, but if I had enough money I would buy 46" or maybe 50".
You have to use THX video profile with Oppo, it gives the best picture. And switch off any energy saving and eco mode for best picture.

Thanks to JazzGuyy:

It`s good to hear that this combination will work well.
I have planned to by one with a hardware modification kit.

and thanks to noaid: it`s my favourite country too you see.
IMO one of the proffessional settings gives more options to get a better picture.
Otherwise I agree with you.

Fanitullen

what does doh mean and I posted this to see if any body else was having this issue with the patton blu-ray disc. thanks , george H.

You had stated that OPPO confirmed it to be a known issue, and that it would be fixed. Thus, there was no real reason to ask the question in the first place. A real life "DOH!!!" moment if you will.
...and the word "doh" would ironically infer to a saying from The Simpsons TV show, a phrase coined by Homer Simpson.

again, my intention was to see if others had the same problem.

In case it matters, I found your use of "doh" amusing given homer612's user name .


If Oppo has confirmed that it's a known issue, then other users will definitely experience the issue sooner or later (unless Oppo gets a firmware update out before other people run into the same situation).

That's a given, if Oppo has known about this issue other's must be having the problem you are having, how else would Oppo know about it? Oppo can't buy every disc and play it just to find problems, owner's email or phone in the problem. The answer to your question is obvious ...

New Oppo owner here (sprung for the 83SE version).

What really surprised me is how awful FF/RW performs on DVD's. Even at the fastest FF speed (5), which as mentioned above is VERY choppy, it's only fast forwarding in 10 Second jumps! So it's choppy AND very slow at even the fastest FF speed.

Why is this? On Blu ray discs the FF is much faster, and all my previous DVD players FF DVD discs quickly w/o issue. For this player to only FF in 10 second jumps at the fastest speed seems a bit odd/strange and finally--annoying.

I hope this is something that can be addressed in firmware

And yes, I've already experienced the '...sometimes when I am forwarding at 3x, 4x, or 5x, and press Play, instead of resuming play at that point, it skips to the beginning of the next chapter.'

Decided to time it: At the fastest FF speed (5), with DVD's, it takes about 6 seconds (real time) to FF 1 minute of disc time



So if one was to FF at speed 5, it would take about 12 minutes of real time to FF a 2hr movie from beginning to end. I think any of my previous DVD players would do that in way less than 1 minute.

fleaman,

1st congrats on the purchase of the SE. 2nd why were you surprised about the functionality of FF/RW when you sited two other postings regarding this functionality. The functionality of the Oppo FF/RW may not be as refined as your previous DVD, but then it is not a DVD player. The speed at which the Oppo FF and RW seem to be an annoyance for you and a few others, but I can't imagine you needing to fast forward no more than a few seconds or minutes within a specific chapter. If you are FF from chapter to chapter looking for a specific point in the movie wouldn't the Next button on the remote be more appropriate and FF once you are within the chapter you desire?

I know there is a need to occasionally FF/RW within a movie, but how often does this take place? I thought the point was to watch the movie.

Your desire to have this addressed via firmware may go unnoticed. The functionality of FF/RW would have to be very, very, very low or non-existent on the priority list for Oppo. I guess for a huge majority of the owner base this is a non-issue.

So I guess you have to decide if this is going to materially affect your enjoyment of the player or a big enough issue to warrant returning the player.

I personally think the player is a keeper if this is all that annoy's those few times where you may have to FF or RW.

Just my $.02.

Respectfully,
Willie

My Mitsubishi TV also supports deep Color,
but there is no word in the manual about 30
or 36 bits. Their support (a misnomer, if I
ever saw one) were stumped as well.
Searching the web it appears that there are
no titles using the technology -- BD or DVD.

I wound up setting the BDP-83 to 36 bits. I
am not sure it did any good, but it did no
harm, either.

-- Ron

Why not? That's a fairly common phenomemon.

Right now, the BDP-83 is sold by many mail order
retailers for $600 and higher. There is at least one
(very visible) ebay seller that charges $700 for
modified BDP-83s. Since the mod costs about 60
bucks, it is not difficult to calculate their markup...

BTW, since this seller is not an authorized dealer,
they offer their own 30 day warranty -- but only
if the buyer makes an issue of it before the sale.
Buyers' risk is probably not high, but still, it's not
zero, either.

aree

-- Ron

I discovered those posts after the fact.


Well, the DVD playback PQ (in my case, upscaling to 1080p) is one of the main reasons to purchase the Oppo, right? One of the reasons I went for the Oppo was to eliminate all my other DVD players, not have multiple players that each have a specialty performance advantage.


Well, in the case of the BD83, it is indeed 'only' FF a few seconds at a time, even at it's fastest speed.


Yes, if I knew which chapter the scene I was looking for was in. But if I don't, I'm back to square one.


I guess that's gonna be the case now. Yet for demo purposes (calibration checks, etc.) or favorite scenes, I like to go to the scene quickly of course. But now, if I don't know the exact chapter it's in, that will be an extensive process.


Yet the Oppo doesn't seem to have much of a problem with fast FF/RW on blu ray discs. Doesn't it seem strange and odd that DVD discs handicap this player so much? (with this function).