Originally Posted by ehlarson
While I'd like to have RS-232, I don't think anyone can say for sure if it is going to be a matter of weeks, or maybe months. Plus there is the uncertainty of whether the MSRP is going to be $599 once the player is released.
If I am offered the EAP I'm going for it.
For the interim, I have a Denon 3930CI for DVD, SACD, and DVD-Audio, a PS3 for Bluray, and a HTPC running TheaterTek for DVD and ArcSoft TMT for Bluray (so I clearly have lots of playback options). I think I can survive another couple of weeks or months to wait for what I consider to be a significant feature. I'm using this with a Crestron system, so having RS-232 control is really a big plus.
Unless OPPO says they don't mind me doing so (and I suppose I will ask prior to declining, if selected), I really think it would be against the spirit of the EAP for me to purchase an EAP unit with the intention of returning it at the end of the EAP - which is exactly what I would end up doing because I definitely want the RS-232 port. I would equate that to buying a Bluray player from Best Buy to hold me over till the OPPO comes out knowing full well that I intend to return it within the 30 day return window - it's abusing the system and leads to increased cost for all of us.
Originally Posted by progprog
gsr felt that the biggest advantage of serial control is the two-way communication with your remote system, and you emphasized this as well.
But for me, the three biggest advantages are (1) more extensive codesets, (2) much greater stability, and (3) no line-of-sight requirement for the remote. I use serial control for almost everything in my HT, including my Oppo DV-983H, and I'm really
glad to see that Oppo will offer it in the BDP-83!
I referenced item 1 with my comment about direct access to all fast forward / rewind speeds, but that is indeed a big plus. But much of this could be addressed through IR if OPPO makes codes available for those extra commands that might not be on the included remote. They would just need to add the functions to the firmware if not already present and publish the new IR codes in the IR spreadsheet.
For items 2 & 3, when using an RF remote in conjunction with a control processor (as you would do with AMX, Crestron, RTI, Pronto, etc. when using RS-232 control), you can make a hardwired IR connection from the control processor to the BDP-83's rear IR input which will be very reliable and have no requirement for line of sight. IR is really just a special serial protocol and it's only 1 way, but it's actually pretty reliable when setup properly and especially so when hard wired.
I'm controlling most of my system via serial ports too (3 DirecTV HR21 Pro's, a Parasound HDMI video switcher, Denon 3930CI, HomeVision X-10 controller, etc.) and a few devices via ethernet (HTPC, and Denon AVP-A1HDCI surround sound processor). The rest of the system is controlled via a mix of hardwired IR and IR emitters.