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8/24/10 at 4:26pm
Iirc it always does that when done
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post #33392 of 38730
8/24/10 at 5:33pm
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Sorry, but I disagree with that. Obsolete they are not. Outdated in design, features, construction and no longer in use? Not hardly. Yeah, they don't have the latest tweek to feature sets but electronics continue to do the job they did on day one, just as well on day 538 or day 6304, assuming they did not break.

Obsolete and having the latest fashion feature are no the same thing. IE not having the latest trendy interconnnect isn't obsolecence. If CD's, DVD's and BD's become 8-tracks, LP's and cassettes, THEN they would be obsolete.

"Obsolete" was a bad choice here, I was just trying to make the observation that "state of the art" electronics are a moving target. I have a "state of the art" preamp (Lexicon MC12) which cost be an arm and a leg a few years back. Can't decode TrueHD or DTS_MA, no HDMI inputs. Is it obsolete, yes, as far as my home theater usage. HDMI is not a trendy connection. It's pretty much a prerequisite now. Can't even hook it to my 83 (10 RCA's ? no thanks)

Now they are talking about HDMI 1.4. OPPO said no update possible for the 83. We are just lambs waiting for the kill...
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post #33393 of 38730
8/24/10 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Release date: August 24, 2010
Category: Public Beta Version
Main Version: BDP83-52-0816B
Loader Version: BE2731 or BT0431
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326
Release Notes

1. A small number of Blu-ray discs with Dolby TrueHD audio exhibit a momentary audio drop-out issue if the player is connected to an A/V receiver via HDMI and bitstream is selected as the HDMI Audio format. This version fixes the issue.
2. Certain SACD discs with many short tracks or with a long track following several short tracks can cause the player to freeze during playback. This version fixes the issue.
3. The previous firmware version displays the time counter slightly too fast when playing SACD. This version fixes the issue.
4. Support for LPCM audio streaming over home network is restored. The previous firmware did not carry this feature over from older versions. Please note that home network streaming is an experimental feature. You will need a computer running UPnP or DLNA streaming server software that can support transcoding to LPCM in order to use this feature.
5. Fix for the issue of incorrect video size when playing some Blu-ray discs, such as Patton.
6. Other general disc and media file compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples.

Anybody experiencing picture apect issues with new firmware???
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post #33394 of 38730
8/24/10 at 6:01pm
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Originally Posted by vojin.stefanovic View Post

Anybody experiencing picture apect issues with new firmware???

Are you saying that you are?

With what sort of material?

Does toggling the SETUP button do anything to fix it?

Did you Reset Factory Defaults as described in the instructions? If so, did you remember to set the Setup aspect ratio back the way you wanted it?

-Bill
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post #33395 of 38730
8/24/10 at 6:43pm
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Are you saying that you are?

With what sort of material?

Does toggling the SETUP button do anything to fix it?

Did you Reset Factory Defaults as described in the instructions? If so, did you remember to set the Setup aspect ratio back the way you wanted it?

-Bill

I have reverted back to May firmware and the problem is gone.

I did not investigate the issue beyond establishing the fact that when I played 1:2... format MKVs form Synology NAS OPPO narrowed the picture by adding the black bars at both sides - like watching 3:4 material on 16:9 screen.

The other interesting thing is that I do not have Reset Factory Default under Device Setup. So I could not do it. This also applies to May firmware.

VS
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post #33396 of 38730
8/24/10 at 6:49pm
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It is there, but it is hidden well below the shown options (the OSD shows 8 options at any given time). Keep pressing the Down Arrow and you will see Reset Factory Defaults.
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post #33397 of 38730
8/24/10 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Release date: August 24, 2010
Category: Public Beta Version
Main Version: BDP83-52-0816B
Loader Version: BE2731 or BT0431
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326
Release Notes

1. A small number of Blu-ray discs with Dolby TrueHD audio exhibit a momentary audio drop-out issue if the player is connected to an A/V receiver via HDMI and bitstream is selected as the HDMI Audio format. This version fixes the issue.

Anyone test Star Trek yet?!?
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post #33398 of 38730
8/24/10 at 7:28pm
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No dropouts experienced when watching Star Trek with this Beta.
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post #33399 of 38730
8/24/10 at 7:32pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

It is there, but it is hidden well below the shown options (the OSD shows 8 options at any given time). Keep pressing the Down Arrow and you will see Reset Factory Defaults.

Mine shows seven. It goes down to "Persistent Storage" and then jumps up to "Firmware Information".
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post #33400 of 38730
8/24/10 at 7:39pm
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Make sure you have no disc in the player. Reset Factory Defaults will be grayed out (non-selectable) when you have a disc in the player. If this occurs, the player will not let you even highlight the option, which will cause it to go back to the top (Firmware Information).

And indeed it is 7. I was pulling a number out of my a$$. I was close.
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post #33401 of 38730
8/24/10 at 7:56pm
Hi Neuro,

just for the records, I've watched ST several times thru my -80 and no issues or hick-ups at all. Believe such applies only to the -83, though.
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post #33402 of 38730
8/24/10 at 8:03pm
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All reported dropouts for this kind of error are related to the BDP-83 and BDP-83SE. This is particularly true for animation titles from ADV, Bandai and FUNimation which feature Dolby Digital TrueHD soundtracks. In my configuration dropouts were aggressive (lasting several seconds) and repeatable.

Star Trek had very minor dropouts and were not repeatable.
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post #33403 of 38730
8/24/10 at 8:40pm
I am experiencing the same thing, although it does not shift automatically when playing back 480p MKVs. If I were to hit a button that makes a menu appear (audio or subtitle), then the display will shift to 4:3. Hitting stop, returning the previous menu and replaying will correct it.

With 720p MKVs, the shift happens at the moment of playback, It appears to be something wrong with the 16:9 Wide/Auto setting in the Setup menu. If I disable the Auto switch for 4:3 content, the 16:9 material will playback fine. Of course, then my 4:3 stuff will appear stretched. I suspect this will be an easy one for Oppo to correct.

No dropouts on Star Trek.



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Originally Posted by vojin.stefanovic View Post

I have reverted back to May firmware and the problem is gone.

I did not investigate the issue beyond establishing the fact that when I played 1:2... format MKVs form Synology NAS OPPO narrowed the picture by adding the black bars at both sides - like watching 3:4 material on 16:9 screen.

The other interesting thing is that I do not have Reset Factory Default under Device Setup. So I could not do it. This also applies to May firmware.

VS
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post #33404 of 38730
8/24/10 at 8:47pm
[quote=dtblair;19096758 Can't even hook it to my 83 (10 RCA's ? no thanks)

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If the Lexicon has an audio Ext In (8 cables) you really should try it with your Oppo especially for DST-MA sound tracks. I ran my Denon 4802 that way for quite a while (before upgrading to a 4310 but that was for the Audyssey features mostly) and the sound was/is fantastic.

Try it, you will not be disappointed....
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post #33405 of 38730
8/24/10 at 8:56pm
huh, between discs I just had a FW update kick in... Wacky.
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post #33406 of 38730
8/24/10 at 9:00pm
Finally, it is supporting BD-R LTH type media now after the AUG firmware update
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post #33407 of 38730
8/24/10 at 9:22pm
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Originally Posted by dtblair View Post

"Obsolete" was a bad choice here, I was just trying to make the observation that "state of the art" electronics are a moving target. I have a "state of the art" preamp (Lexicon MC12) which cost be an arm and a leg a few years back. Can't decode TrueHD or DTS_MA, no HDMI inputs. Is it obsolete, yes, as far as my home theater usage. HDMI is not a trendy connection. It's pretty much a prerequisite now. Can't even hook it to my 83 (10 RCA's ? no thanks)

Now they are talking about HDMI 1.4. OPPO said no update possible for the 83. We are just lambs waiting for the kill...

I don't know, it all depends what works for you. I have an oppo and outlaw 990 which doesn't have hdmi and it works well for me. I have no intentions of seeking out 1.4 components anytime soon regardless of content. In the future when I get a 3D TV, I may look to upgrade my Oppo if I feel it's necessary, but that's a long way out. I hope to get at least 4 or 5 more years out of my 3/4 year old set.

For me the preprocessor is a bigger investment, but things are moving around so much right now, I'm just going to wait and see. Seems like onkyo comes out with something new every six months. I still have my Onkyo Integra A-8700 from the 80's. Great they can keep up with the Joneses, but that's not for everyone. I'm sure Oppo may be working on a next generation and , who knows, maybe it'll have hdmi 1.4 and streaming or perhaps something unexpected.
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post #33408 of 38730
8/24/10 at 9:46pm
Hey, I didn't mention it, but in my case (BD-80), the audio setup is set to PCM all the way thru and since Day One, ST runned out just perfectly ...
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post #33409 of 38730
8/24/10 at 10:41pm
My BDP-83 supports 36 bit deep color. My TV supports 36 bit deep color.

My question is - what can I show that has 36 bit deep color?

Anything? I know Blu-rays and DVDs don't have it. Is there any 36 bit color sample file - anywhere - in a format that can be played on the BDP-83?

And if there is - does anyone have any recommendations on which file or files are "best" for demoing 36 bit deep color?

Thanks,
Bill
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post #33410 of 38730
8/24/10 at 10:50pm
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Absolutely nothing. Nothing has Deep Color contents.
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post #33411 of 38730
8/24/10 at 10:59pm
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Originally Posted by jdryyz View Post

Anyone test Star Trek yet?!?

Played straight through flawlessly. First time I can say that in 6 viewings.
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post #33412 of 38730
8/25/10 at 12:17am
I noticed better sound with t2:skynet, star trek, batman 89, batman begins.
I also noticed that they fixed the avatar problem. it would get hung up when you pressed no on if you wanted to continue the movie. it would never take you to the main menu.. now it does.
or is it just me or does the player seem to load even faster then before. I am using the 720 harmony remote and the onkyo 605 receiver.
Jacob
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post #33413 of 38730
8/25/10 at 1:33am
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

No dropouts experienced when watching Star Trek with this Beta.

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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

All reported dropouts for this kind of error are related to the BDP-83 and BDP-83SE. This is particularly true for animation titles from ADV, Bandai and FUNimation which feature Dolby Digital TrueHD soundtracks. In my configuration dropouts were aggressive (lasting several seconds) and repeatable.

So it looks like the ST random dropouts are vanquished. I'm unclear about the others you mentioned. Have they been solved too?
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post #33414 of 38730
8/25/10 at 6:12am
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Originally Posted by fatherom View Post

That's why I own a Dune HD Base 3.0 and an Oppo BDP-83...the combination of those two devices gives me everything I'll ever need.

I think that will depend on how long you live.
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8/25/10 at 8:36am
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Absolutely nothing. Nothing has Deep Color contents.

Nothing at all? Not even some AVCHD file (or some other file) playable from a USB device?

I don't need a movie or TV show. I'm just looking for anything - anything at all - to demonstrate Deep Color. A 5 second file of some demo image would work. Are you saying nothing like this exists?
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post #33416 of 38730
8/25/10 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by Roger Dressler View Post

So it looks like the ST random dropouts are vanquished. I'm unclear about the others you mentioned. Have they been solved too?

Been too lazy to unpack all of my anime (Moved last month, so a lot of my stuff is still packed away), so can't tell you if the dropouts exist for those titles or not. Most likely if the dropouts for contents like the Celine Dion concert and Star Trek are resolved, the dropouts with anime Dolby Digital TrueHD soundtracks are as well.
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8/25/10 at 9:32am
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Originally Posted by Bill222 View Post

Nothing at all? Not even some AVCHD file (or some other file) playable from a USB device?

I have not seen any contents (user created or not) which supports Deep Color. The best you will find from AVCHD samples would be the inclusion of x.v.Color.
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post #33418 of 38730
8/25/10 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Might help if you reveal what you're watching, format-wise, and what the relevant player settings are. Aside from what Bill has already posted, it also sounds a bit like you're watching a DVD with 24p turned on.

DVD's play fine I am only having issues with Blu Rays and all of them. The only thing that I haven't tried is running the Oppo directly to the TV and Bill suggested and I will give that a shot tonight and I will also make note of all the player and TV settings. And post them up later.



Thanks

Ryan
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post #33419 of 38730
8/25/10 at 11:42am
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If you are planning on using the 52-0816B and playback SACD media, you may want to hold off on this firmware. I did some testing last night and confirmed that the small distortions (snaps, crackles, or pops) have been re-introduced into the this firmware.
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8/25/10 at 12:17pm
I have had my Oppo BDP-83 player for probably a year and half now and have never updated the firmware. Is there any reason that I should NOT update? I just recently pulled Cat.6 into my theater room so really have no excuse not to do it unless it might do more harm than good.
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