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post #34561 of 38742
11/5/10 at 10:51am
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post
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You guys got me curious so I peeled the wrapping off my copy of TS3 and checked this. The issue at 1:35 is not clipping, it's a DTS decoding error and I'm pretty sure it's in the player. It should also be heard via analog outs but I can't confirm that. If anyone can confirm whether it happens in the BDP-80 that might be useful information.

Oppo is aware of the issue.
On the blu-ray.com site, someone does have the problem on their BDP-80. Here's the link: http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mov...ml#post3963276

They too are decoding the audio via their Oppo.
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post #34562 of 38742
11/5/10 at 12:43pm
I'm going to try this on my pioneer 23fd player and see iif it occurs there also...then we will know for sure whether it's the Oppo or the disc


and it's fine on my pio player..so it's an oppo issue for sure
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post #34563 of 38742
11/6/10 at 3:36am
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Originally Posted by Mactavish View Post

If anyone that had Oppo-83 "STUCK TRAY" issues, is still following the thread, I was wondering if the problem once it appeared, gets progressively worse over time?

I just started seeing this problem, with my unit. I'm using the latest beta firmware, not sure that could even be an issue, but perhaps. I'm sure it is NOT from usage, as I don't use it as much as most, it never moves from it's location, it's been babied, so I am shocked that this suddenly appeared. As some reported, turn unit on, hit eject, hear a tiny sound like the motor trying to open the tray, and nothing. I did follow one tip, pulling lightly on the tray at the top and this helps it open.

Reason I ask, is while I'm sure Oppo will take care of it, it's a major hassle for me to ship it back, so I can live with it, UNLESS it gets any worse and just fails to open altogether at some point in the future. Very odd. Thanks for any followup anyone with this experience has to offer.

My issue is the tray opened with no blu ray disk. It was stuck inside the unit. I had to disconnect the cables from the unit, flip it upside down and shake the disk out (while the tray was out). It happen 2 more times. On the third try, I fast forward the disk, then reversed directions, then the disk came out normally. Has not happened again with other blu ray disks.

Carbon
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post #34564 of 38742
11/6/10 at 6:25am
sent mine in for free cleaning after I was unable to "clean" spindle properly....that fixed issue

I no longer have that player
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post #34565 of 38742
11/6/10 at 8:19am
well problems that have occurred with my Oppo seems too be based on the Bluray disc with DTS HD. The freezing occurs only with movies that have DTS HD. So that means that the DTS guys are not doing there homework in the way they should do, have not had this problem with dolby True HD. Example for a very bad bluray is "The Girl in the Park "
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post #34566 of 38742
11/6/10 at 8:17pm
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Originally Posted by bobloblaw View Post

I had the same problem. It started back in July and I thought is was related to the beta firmware that was released around that time. I tried going back to earlier firmware versions but it didn't make a difference. Nor did later firmware improve the issue. The problem progressively got worse until finally I sent it back to OPPO a couple weeks ago.

I can't believe the service I received, simply awesome! The player was received at OPPO, repaired (they replaced the loading tray), and on it's way back to me within 6 hours. OPPO covered all the costs except the charge for me to ship it to them, more than reasonable considering my player was part of the first 50 and at least 6 months out of warranty.

Thanks for taking the time to respond. Since you say it got "worse", I guess I should send it in now, rather then waiting. GOOD to KNOW!
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post #34567 of 38742
11/6/10 at 8:37pm
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Originally Posted by yin View Post

well problems that have occurred with my Oppo seems too be based on the Bluray disc with DTS HD. The freezing occurs only with movies that have DTS HD. So that means that the DTS guys are not doing there homework in the way they should do, have not had this problem with dolby True HD. Example for a very bad bluray is "The Girl in the Park "

Since 90% of all BD titles have DTS, I doubt this is related to your freezing issues. If you have cleaned the offending discs and are certain the discs are not the problem, contact Oppo. Freezing issues are most often related to damaged or dirty discs, but specific loader problems can contribute.
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post #34568 of 38742
11/7/10 at 9:04am
Oppo has been contacted, but thought others on the list may have some insight too or may wish to know.

I installed the beta and noticed no real changes. Got some Praga SACDs in the mail and found that there is a fairly loud drive hum while they play. I do not have the hum with other brands of SACD or any other type of disk, just SACDs from Praga. I reinstalled the official firmware and there were no changes, still has drive hum on Praga SACDs.

Anybody else have problems like this that were label-specific? If so, any solutions?

Dave

Using DSD through HDMI into Pioneer SC-37, if that is important.
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post #34569 of 38742
11/7/10 at 9:31am
I was wondering if anybody has any trouble getting LOTM to load and play. My copy will show the screen about updating the player, then show the Fox logo screen, and then freezes after that.

The front panel on the OPPO shows --/--/--.

I do have BD Live enabled. I did clear out the persistant storage and power cycled the player a few times and the movie finally loaded.

I tried some newer fox titles and they all load in the same sequence: update player screen, then Fox title screen, and then the Top Menu.

BD Live seems to be hit or miss with Fox titles as other studio titles load with out a glitch.

I am going to test these titles today on my pioneer 320. I'll even pull my LG BH200 out of moth balls and see how they load.
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post #34570 of 38742
11/7/10 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by Jed1 View Post

I was wondering if anybody has any trouble getting LOTM to load and play. My copy will show the screen about updating the player, then show the Fox logo screen, and then freezes after that.

The front panel on the OPPO shows --/--/--.

I do have BD Live enabled. I did clear out the persistant storage and power cycled the player a few times and the movie finally loaded.

I tried some newer fox titles and they all load in the same sequence: update player screen, then Fox title screen, and then the Top Menu.

BD Live seems to be hit or miss with Fox titles as other studio titles load with out a glitch.

I am going to test these titles today on my pioneer 320. I'll even pull my LG BH200 out of moth balls and see how they load.

I played it without difficulty but always have BD-Live off and clear Persistent Storage regularly. You seem to be doing the right things; it may be the next firmware update will make this a bit smoother for you. Keeping up with Fox is a never ending struggle.

A separate issue on this disc: I suspect it may be the first to actually use the Image Constraint Token, which is a kick in the head to component video users. It should make no difference for HDMI.

I'm researching this now to make sure it is ICT and not some other compatibility issue. The symptom is that component video produces only 480i regardless of the resolution setting.

Josh Zyber had a report of this in his weekly column: http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...wo,_Brute/5758

-Bill
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post #34571 of 38742
11/7/10 at 10:07am
Well i picked up a pioneer 1120 receiver, that's being used with my ps3 but im still not happy with the dvd upscaling so know im back to looking at the oppo bdp 83 and 93. I thought the pioneer receiver having the scaling chip in it would make a difference in picture quality witch it slightly does giving some tuning options. I guess its not the same, not having it in the ps3 like having it already built into the player like the oppo 83 and 93 does can anyone chime in on this.
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post #34572 of 38742
11/7/10 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by kiko1 View Post

Well i picked up a pioneer 1120 receiver, that's being used with my ps3 but im still not happy with the dvd upscaling so know im back to looking at the oppo bdp 83 and 93. I thought the pioneer receiver having the scaling chip in it would make a difference in picture quality witch it slightly does giving some tuning options. I guess its not the same like having it already built into the player like the oppo 83 and 93 does can anyone chime in on this.

kiko1,

Doesn't the Pioneer VSX-1120 use the Marvell Qdeo video chip?


Willie
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post #34573 of 38742
11/7/10 at 10:25am
yes
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post #34574 of 38742
11/7/10 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by kiko1 View Post

Well i picked up a pioneer 1120 receiver, that's being used with my ps3 but im still not happy with the dvd upscaling so know im back to looking at the oppo bdp 83 and 93. I thought the pioneer receiver having the scaling chip in it would make a difference in picture quality witch it slightly does giving some tuning options. I guess its not the same, not having it in the ps3 like having it already built into the player like the oppo 83 and 93 does can anyone chime in on this.

Did you make sure the ps3 was set to source direct and the receiver was set to output 1080p to the display? A video processor in the receiver won't do anything if the ps3 has already done the upconversion or if it is told to just pass the video to the display. If the 1120 has the Qdeo processor, I'd be very surprised for it to not make a difference.
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post #34575 of 38742
11/7/10 at 2:42pm
pioneer is set to 1080p, how do i see if ps3 is set to source direct. i should ask this in ps3 section
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post #34576 of 38742
11/7/10 at 5:53pm
Got Robin Hood Blu-ray from Netflix. Neither the theatrical nor the producer's cut versions have any sound. Has anyone experienced this? I have turned off BD-LIve and tried to erase persistent storage but it's greyed out. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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post #34577 of 38742
11/7/10 at 5:57pm
Thread Starter 
Persistent Storage can only be erased when there is no disc in the player.

Not getting sounds sounds like either HDMI has been set to OFF under Audio Format Setup, the VOL on the player has been set to anything other than +100, or there is a bad HDMI handshake (try disconnecting the HDMI cable and reconnecting it).
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post #34578 of 38742
11/7/10 at 8:51pm
newbie here ...

I updgraded my O/S to Windows 7 and am running TVERSITY to stream MKV movies to the OPPO. I can no longer fast forward to a point in the move using the time function that allows you .. say select 30:00 minutes into the movie. Used to work but no longer. Wondering if it is because I upgraded the firmware. Thinking of reverting back but am afraid I might mess it up and create a "brick".
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post #34579 of 38742
11/7/10 at 11:03pm
Thread Starter 
If TVersity is doing the transcoding, then you will not be able to fast forward. GOTO and Fast Forward only work when the player is receiving the file for internal processing and decoding.
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post #34580 of 38742
11/8/10 at 4:44am
Update: I cleared persistent storage. I have sound when the introduction to the disc is playing. After I select either the theatrical version or the director's cut there is no sound. The disc looks new. I'm going to contact OPPO today.
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post #34581 of 38742
11/8/10 at 4:54am
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Originally Posted by jimsfield View Post

Update: I cleared persistent storage. I have sound when the introduction to the disc is playing. After I select either the theatrical version or the director's cut there is no sound. The disc looks new. I'm going to contact OPPO today.

Are you running current firmware? Production or beta?

I played the Director's Cut and sampled the theatrical cut on the rental edition of the disc.

-Bill
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post #34582 of 38742
11/8/10 at 6:27am
I played the directors cut of robin hood. it was a copy that I had bought. it worked fine.
I have the latest beta firmware update.

Jacob
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post #34583 of 38742
11/8/10 at 6:48am
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Originally Posted by jimsfield View Post

Update: I cleared persistent storage. I have sound when the introduction to the disc is playing. After I select either the theatrical version or the director's cut there is no sound. The disc looks new. I'm going to contact OPPO today.


Rented the BluRay from Redbox and no issues with the sound. Non-Beta firmware and without clearning storage.
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post #34584 of 38742
11/8/10 at 7:23am
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Originally Posted by Spacedave View Post

Oppo has been contacted, but thought others on the list may have some insight too or may wish to know.

I installed the beta and noticed no real changes. Got some Praga SACDs in the mail and found that there is a fairly loud drive hum while they play. I do not have the hum with other brands of SACD or any other type of disk, just SACDs from Praga. I reinstalled the official firmware and there were no changes, still has drive hum on Praga SACDs.

Anybody else have problems like this that were label-specific? If so, any solutions?

Dave

Using DSD through HDMI into Pioneer SC-37, if that is important.

No problems here with Praga or any other labels. I have quite a few Pragas. No hum whatsoever on SACD. I do notice that Praga disks seem to be "cut" at a higher than average level requiring that they be turned down in volume more than others. I am still on the last official relese, not the beta.

I am totally satisfied with SACD and music performance with the BDP-83.
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post #34585 of 38742
11/8/10 at 7:54am
Anyone else have trouble with the new Sound of Music BD Special Features disc? The first two items on that disc have interactive menus with a view of the inside of the house and the city of Salzburg. After I select one of the featurettes, as soon as it returns to the menu there is no way to select anything (no controls visible, just the background), and I end up having to go back to top menu and start over. Pressing other navigation buttons doesn't seem to do anything either.

I'm running the most recent beta, BD-live always off, cleaned-out storage, etc. The movie on disc 1 plays fine, and the Special Features do play, but the menus appear in some cases to be broken. It's Fox, and I assume some sort of Java, so two strikes against it, but I wanted to know if anyone else saw this before I report it to Oppo.
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post #34586 of 38742
11/8/10 at 7:56am
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

If TVersity is doing the transcoding, then you will not be able to fast forward. GOTO and Fast Forward only work when the player is receiving the file for internal processing and decoding.

Thanks for the response Neuromancer.

I have transcoding turned off. The GOTO still won't work and it used to before I did the O/S upgrade along with a firmware upgrade. Now the only problem is I can't recall exactly which firmware I had before I upgraded recently ... the idiot that I am I forgot to note it.

will reverting back to older version of firmware be a safe thing to do ?
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post #34587 of 38742
11/8/10 at 8:05am
Guys, What's the deal with No More BDP83's For Sale at Oppo, just checked their website and it says suspended prodution due to parts. Is their any more to this than parts ?
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post #34588 of 38742
11/8/10 at 8:13am
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Originally Posted by Glenee View Post

Guys, What's the deal with No More BDP83's For Sale at Oppo, just checked their website and it says suspended prodution due to parts. Is their any more to this than parts ?

No, it's out of production. Will be replaced by the "coming soon" BDP-93, which has a separate thread.

-Bill
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post #34589 of 38742
11/8/10 at 8:21am
Thanks Bill, I kind of thought that.
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post #34590 of 38742
11/8/10 at 9:22am
audio advisor,com still has some 83se's.....I got one of their last 83's a few weeks ago
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