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post #37411 of 39277
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

Given multiple sinks the HDMI handshake will result in the lesser of any capability (e.g. a 2.0 channel sink and 5.1 channel sink results in 2.0 output from your Oppo, likewise video). As long as only one AVR is on at a time (that includes pass-through or stand-by mode) there shouldn't be any more problems that you usually get with HDMI. If both are on it should still work with the noted contraint.

This is a case where a real switch is probably a better solution.

Even if one of the receivers is in standby, I will still have issues? What if both receivers a on, one set to blurry and one set to fios tv?

Sounds like it might be worth a try, and see if it works for the $10 cost of the splitter.
post #37412 of 39277
I use a Monoprice splitter in the HDMI chain with my BDP-83 (and every other HDMI device for that matter), but it doesn't actually split the signal, since I only use one of the outputs, and it's further downstream from the 83.

The reason I do this goes back to a well-known problem between the Denon 3808 and my Sony TV, which causes HDMI dropouts every so often. Putting the splitter in between the receiver and the TV solved this issue. As far as I can tell, it hasn't caused any issues with my BDP-83 syncing with either the receiver or the TV. I assume the splitter (whether it's active or passive) has to either pass-through or duplicate all the info coming to the splitter, and it seems to do that just fine.

Can't say how it would work with two displays, but I would expect that both of them would have to support 1080p/60 and 1080p/24 since I set those resolutions specifically, and I don't use "Auto." At least I can say that having the splitter in the chain is not a problem in and of itself.
post #37413 of 39277
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Originally Posted by JustBusiness View Post

Even if one of the receivers is in standby, I will still have issues?

You might.
post #37414 of 39277
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Originally Posted by dcbii View Post

I assume the splitter (whether it's active or passive) has to either pass-through or duplicate all the info coming to the splitter, and it seems to do that just fine.

HDMI is digital so there are no "passive" splitters in the analog sense. This isn't simple pendantic hair-splitting. You need to understand how it works to have any hope of figuring why that innocuous component change you just made caused an HDMI issue elsewhere six weeks later.
post #37415 of 39277
having problem with almost all recent BDs in the Oppo. cannot replay some discs and others keep freezing momentarily every 2 seconds and have choppy playback. sometimes if the ones with choppy platback are paused and then played it plays unhindered for about 10 seconds and then again starts stuttered playback. the Bds with the issue are Fright Night, Johny English, Dolphin Tale etc.
post #37416 of 39277
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Originally Posted by manoharshetty9 View Post

having problem with almost all recent BDs in the Oppo. cannot replay some discs and others keep freezing momentarily every 2 seconds and have choppy playback. sometimes if the ones with choppy platback are paused and then played it plays unhindered for about 10 seconds and then again starts stuttered playback. the Bds with the issue are Fright Night, Johny English, Dolphin Tale etc.

Have you tried some older Blu-ray discs to see if the problem is actually with ALL discs? What you describe sounds like the lens in your optical drive needs cleaning.

What firmware are you running? The newest firmware is a "Public Beta" that just came out. The newest "official" firmware came out right around Christmas.
--Bob
post #37417 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Have you tried some older Blu-ray discs to see if the problem is actually with ALL discs? What you describe sounds like the lens in your optical drive needs cleaning.

What firmware are you running? The newest firmware is a "Public Beta" that just came out. The newest "official" firmware came out right around Christmas.
--Bob

using the latest official firmware BDP-83-58-1215. the older BDs are working great and no problem at all with any DVDs. the ones that work, work very fine. i am only having problems with a majority of newer BDs. also sometimes old and new BDs do not load on the first attempt reading wrong disc, unkown disc etc. and at other times the Oppo just hangs with the sound of the disc spinning and nothing on the screen at which point i have to turn off and restart the player hoping it would work which it sometimes does and other times it does'nt.

does it sound like a lens problem? how do i clean it? so i can get that reason out of the way.
post #37418 of 39277
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Originally Posted by manoharshetty9 View Post


using the latest official firmware BDP-83-58-1215. the older BDs are working great and no problem at all with any DVDs. the ones that work, work very fine. i am only having problems with a majority of newer BDs. also sometimes old and new BDs do not load on the first attempt reading wrong disc, unkown disc etc. and at other times the Oppo just hangs with the sound of the disc spinning and nothing on the screen at which point i have to turn off and restart the player hoping it would work which it sometimes does and other times it does'nt.

does it sound like a lens problem? how do i clean it? so i can get that reason out of the way.

Definitely a hardware issue. Try cleaning the lens if that doesn't work contact OPPO.
post #37419 of 39277
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

HDMI is digital so there are no "passive" splitters in the analog sense. This isn't simple pendantic hair-splitting. You need to understand how it works to have any hope of figuring why that innocuous component change you just made caused an HDMI issue elsewhere six weeks later.

I recognize that HDMI may not allow any kind of "passive" splitting -- I fully admit that I don't know how HDMI really works internally, so I have to check the way it works in a practical sense. (Although not using HDMI, I work with digital data all the time, and it's fairly simple to have digital input, and send the same output over 2 or more different outputs. Most of the time, that is used only for 1-way communication, as in a multicast sense.)

I would imagine the difficulty in this case is that by splitting the stream, you would essentially have to have two different HDMI sessions/negotiations from the source device to the destination devices, or from the splitter to the destination devices. I'm not really sure if a good splitter would separately negotiate with the displays and then send the greatest common denominator of capabilities to the source device in a single negotiation (that's what I would envision), or whether it attempts to allow two separate end-to-end negotiations. Again, this shows my ignorance of how HDMI actually works rather than the way it appears to work.

I was simply noting that in my setup, the HDMI splitter doesn't itself seem to cause any issues downstream when using only one of the outputs. I've had that splitter in my setup for more than 3 years, so I believe I understand the ramifications with all my devices, at least the way I use it.
post #37420 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Foothill View Post

Anyone else having trouble with the final season of Smallville on blu-ray? I have the latest firmware, but if I stop any disc in the set, it will not restart. I've had to do the clear-persisent-storage and power-cycle routine up to 6 times to get the disc to reload.

I also had this problem, but after upgrading to the latest beta firmware (BDP83-59-0117B), the problem no longer occurs.
post #37421 of 39277
Tried watching a Netflix BD of "Contagion" tonight. The player loads the disc, then nothing. All 00000000 on the front panel & no response to the remote except power on/off. Plays fine ,as usual in my Phat PS3, Anyone else having problems with this disc? I know that it contains a new form of piracy protection called "BD+". I wonder if this has something to do with its failure to play. Running the latest public firmware.
post #37422 of 39277
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Originally Posted by putox1051 View Post

Tried watching a Netflix BD of "Contagion" tonight. The player loads the disc, then nothing. All 00000000 on the front panel & no response to the remote except power on/off. Plays fine ,as usual in my Phat PS3, Anyone else having problems with this disc? I know that it contains a new form of piracy protection called "BD+". I wonder if this has something to do with its failure to play. Running the latest public firmware.

If you search the thread for "Contagion" you will find a lot of reports from a couple of weeks ago.

It is confusing because the title exists in several disc editions with different protection schemes, so people report different behavior.

Try this procedure exactly: What do I do if a Blu-ray disc will not load or play, or if it freezes the player?

Resetting Factory Defaults is optional the first time. It it still doesn't work add that step back in and try it all again.

-Bill
post #37423 of 39277
Thread Starter 
You need to upgrade the firmware of the player to the 59-0117B Firmware then clear your Persistent Storage. The disc will now load properly.
post #37424 of 39277
Thanks, I'll try both suggestions.
post #37425 of 39277
Upgraded to the beta firmware, "Contagion" plays perfectly. Thanks again.
post #37426 of 39277
I'm not on the current firmware. I had the same problem with Contagion last night, Netflix rental. I cleared the persistent storage and it played fine.
post #37427 of 39277
Another strange glitch on oppo83.The Big Year sd-dvd loads up but when it hits the page where you get to choose theatrical version or unrated version it just stops.Cant make a choice or play disc.The dvd works fine on my oppo 970.Thank god i kept that old workhorse.
post #37428 of 39277
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Originally Posted by mattg3 View Post

Another strange glitch on oppo83.The Big Year sd-dvd loads up but when it hits the page where you get to choose theatrical version or unrated version it just stops.Cant make a choice or play disc.The dvd works fine on my oppo 970.Thank god i kept that old workhorse.

SD-DVD failure to load is unusual (assuming the disc is not damaged). It's not like the mysterious world of Blu-ray. But it can happen of course. Please get the disc info -- including the bar code number from the packaging -- to Oppo tech support. I take it this is a US region disc?

Whenever there is any strange behavior from the player, it is always wise to try a simple reset:

1) Jot down your personal settings
2) Remove any disc
3) Erase Persistent Storage
4) Reset Factory Defaults. When the Easy Setup Wizard finishes, power down the player.
5) Pull the wall power cord for about 10 seconds.
6) Power up and re-enter your personal settings
7) Power down once more. Settings are saved during the power down cycle.

Try the disc again and see what you get.
--Bob
post #37429 of 39277
Thanks Bob but the disc did load and previews played.It went all way to the extended vs theatrical page choice and then nothing happen.Tried it twice and got same results.Will contact oppo as you suggested.
post #37430 of 39277
^ Well you might as well consider it a loading failure if you can't get the feature to play.
--Bob
post #37431 of 39277
Is it really stopped or is the menu just not working? I had trouble (fixed in a firmware update) with the choose-your-own-adventure version of Final Destination 3 because the menus were coded differently- maybe this is another bug like that? Can you get the player to do something (like onscreen display) or is it really hung up?

If it's not hung, you may be able to jump straight to the title until the problem can be fixed. Still needs to be fixed, obviously, but it'd probably help Oppo diagnose it if they knew whether the problem was in the menu or the title.
post #37432 of 39277
The yellow button shortcut to the main feature is another way around menu issues.
post #37433 of 39277
I got my OPPO back today. That's pretty good considering that I shipped it out for repairs last week. It looks like they shipped me a brand new player, but the RMA slip says they replaced the decoder board with a new serial number. Whatever they did, it works great now. I have to give them props for awesome customer service.
post #37434 of 39277
OPPO got my 83 on Thurs of this week and already has shipped it back out to me on Friday. They did not say what was wrong with it, guess i will know once i get my 83 back late next week.
post #37435 of 39277
Seems my firmware crashed on my Oppo83 and stopped working. Never knew that could happen.
post #37436 of 39277
^ What did they replace? The firmware is stored in memory chips, and of course they can fail just as with any electronics.
--Bob
post #37437 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ What did they replace? The firmware is stored in memory chips, and of course they can fail just as with any electronics.
--Bob

Here is what Oppo said in E mail.
We found that your errors were related to the firmware no longer functioning. We manually flashed the ROM of your player and were able to successfully use your player again, so we returned the player to you.
post #37438 of 39277
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Originally Posted by CHASLS2 View Post

Here is what Oppo said in E mail.
We found that your errors were related to the firmware no longer functioning. We manually flashed the ROM of your player and were able to successfully use your player again, so we returned the player to you.

Interesting. If the firmware USED TO work after your last install, then that means something corrupted the firmware later on. If it never worked after your last install then that's a failed install -- a very rare occurrence!

Although it is possible for firmware memory to screw up randomly -- cosmic rays -- the usual cause of firmware corruption is some sort of voltage surge, such as opening up the player and zapping it with static electricity from your fingers, or a voltage surge on the power or audio/video connect cables. And that's also a recipe for doing other damage, so let's hope it was just cosmic rays. I.e., it is unusual for a voltage surge to have JUST corrupted the firmware.
--Bob
post #37439 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Interesting. If the firmware USED TO work after your last install, then that means something corrupted the firmware later on. If it never worked after your last install then that's a failed install -- a very rare occurrence!

Although it is possible for firmware memory to screw up randomly -- cosmic rays -- the usual cause of firmware corruption is some sort of voltage surge, such as opening up the player and zapping it with static electricity from your fingers, or a voltage surge on the power or audio/video connect cables. And that's also a recipe for doing other damage, so let's hope it was just cosmic rays. I.e., it is unusual for a voltage surge to have JUST corrupted the firmware.
--Bob

I bought my OPO83 used about a year ago and i have never done a firmware update. It just started acting funny about 6 weeks ago, like locking up and not responding to any command. I would have to hold in the power button and or unplug it. Then one nite it just stopped working and would only display hello.

Funny you bring up a power surge. Back on Dec 31st i heard a loud pop and all of my stuff shut itself off. My Pionner Elite SC35 AVR had a blinking blue light and my 65VT30 shut itself down. Everything is hooked up to a Monster 3600 HT power center. There was no effect to my Pioneer Elite 05fd or my Pioneer Elite DV-59AVI. My SC35 AVR powered back on as normal as did the the rest of my stuff.

Never had this happen before or after.
post #37440 of 39277
Hello!
Can anybody please help me?!

Yesterday I got a second hand OPPO 83 SE.
I played stereo SACD with DSD on analogue outputs.
I don't use hdmi for music. Moreover, hdmi is only used to connect my tv.


However, today I have noticed that the same discs are played only as PCM.
I checked the settings and DSD is switched on. HDMI Audio is OFF.

I cannot make stereo sacd play as DSD.

Something is wrong? Is it a firmware issue or hardware?
I will be very grateful for any help or comments.

Best Regards

I have identified the problem.
Although the hdmi audio is off. Whenever the tv is switched on and connected via hdmi, OPPO converts DSD to PCM. When I connected the player with tv via component. SACD are played DSD.

Is there a bug in the firmware??

How can I overcome this difficulty?
Any help will be greatly appreciated
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