Official OPPO BDP-83 Owner's Thread [technical talk only] - Page 1250

Any chance of adding Amazon Video App to the players?

Is this the only blu-ray player that does 1080p24 up-conversion of DVD?

It's the only OPPO that does so. Other models have the feature but I don't know of a list.

-Bill

^^ Be aware that a number of players that offer this do the "quick and dirty" approach which simply forces the conversion without regard for whether the data coming off the disc really works for that conversion. I.e., image tearing and other artifacts are commonplace. If you know what to look for, the nasties that result are really painful and impossible to ignore.

Oppo tried, and failed, to "do it right" -- so that the conversion would properly track the vagaries of the video data actually coming off the disc. But it proved impossible. Too many SD-DVD discs are just authored too poorly to "do it right" all the time -- or even most of the time. Even though what they ended up with was better than the "quick and dirty" approach, it wasn't good enough, so they pulled the feature entirely from the 93 and the 95.
--Bob

^ I understand what you're saying about the shortcomings of the 1080p/24 DVD conversion, but when it works it is possibly the most impressive video feature of the '83. The diff between a *properly authored* (or at least close) film-based DVD in this mode, and with the mode turned off, is astonishing here (last gen Kuro). Hard to not have the feature now... I did buy the 83 for DVD, I have other Oppos that do the music discs just fine via HDMI, as well as other BDPs that do the 1080p/24 BD stuff just fine. It's with DVDs that the 83 is still "the king". Long live the (DVD) king! [So far my "original version" 83 is not showing the signs of my very heavy regular usage.]

^^Thanks guys!

I am going to pick up a used BDP-83 tonight. Not just for this feature (my Toshiba HD-A35 does it too) but for SACD and DVD-A also

I don't need the BDP-93 streaming and Wi-Fi stuff because I will put my Sony 770 in a second (smaller) system that caters better to that junk.

I think my Toshiba HD-A35 does this, although its scaler is the best I have (better than the Anthem VXP on difficult material). It has no "source direct" mode either, so it basically forces everything (480i, 1080i, etc) to 1080p24 or whatever setting you choose. The result can be very horrible during DVD trailers and menus, but once the main feature starts all is well, generally speaking. When it works, it is very nice indeed. I don't play badly mastered DVDs often enough to worry about it.

Does the Oppo allow you to change the output format on the fly? With the ancient Toshiba the disc must be stopped, go into setup menu, and then reload the disc. Loading DVD is fairly quick but HD-DVD takes forever!

Hi guys,

Some help here please.
Seems my Anthem Statement D2v processor (newest update v2.10) has switching issues with the Oppo BDP-83. I've posted this question on the D2v forum and they think it's on the Oppo side.

What happens is when I put a dvd/blu-ray in, the D2v may or may not give me picture and sound. Sometimes no problem, sometimes, picture no sound, sound no picture. I've tried changing the input on the front panel of the D2v to lets say TV, then back to dvd. Sometimes it works. I turn the D2v off/on, sometimes that works.

Here's what one of the guys on the Anthem D2v forum said:

As for your black screen problem, what have you got the RGB/YCbCr output option on the Oppo BDP set to? I had problems playing DVD when it was set to AUTO (but I was using Sony BDP at the time). YCbCr 4:2:2 worked best.

Generally you will get faster, more reliable handshakes if you minimize use of any "auto" settings. That includes color space, deep color bit depth, etc. These are things that once you settle on a combination that works best for you, should not need to change anyway.

So BDP-83 owners, what do you think?

^ Yes, pick an explicit setting for Resolution, for HDMI Color Space and also for HDMI Audio (i.e., rather than Auto). This will simplify the HDMI handshake.

However, leave 1080p/24 on Auto.

Similarly in Video Output in the D2v, pick explicit settings instead of Auto.

If that doesn't fix it, try running a test with the Oppo set to 1080i output and the D2v also set to 1080i output. If THAT works but 1080p gives you problems, then that suggests a cabling problem. Make sure the HDMI plugs are fully inserted straight into the sockets with nothing tugging them in any direction, and consider upgrading your cables.

Since HDMI is an end to end protocol, the problem with HDMI from the Oppo may actually be due to a marginal cable between the Anthem and the Display.

If the problem happens primarily when you are powering things up, try a "reverse order" power up: Turn on display, wait, turn on D2v, wait, turn on player. It's possible the problem is your display is not quite ready to do its part in the handshake.
--Bob

Hey,

What will the Oppo do if I set to 1080P? I want it to do 1080P when playing most blu-rays and upscale DVD to 1080P also.

However I have some (mainly European) blu-rays that are 1080i. Will the Oppo convert to 1080P???

So at the moment I leave my resolution set to Auto. Is this best?

Ta Dono

No, Auto is not best. Auto causes the player to output what the TV says is its "preferred" resolution.

But there are 1080p TVs out there that tell the HDMI handshake their "preferred" resolution is 1080i! Apparently this is out of fear that if connected to a device that can not output 1080p (such as a cable TV box), they will end up getting something like 480p sent instead.

If you know your display accepts and displays 1080p, then you should set the Oppo to output 1080p.
--Bob

Thank guys, I understand what you are saying. I usually do set mine to 1080P not Auto.
However I find that 1080i source blu-rays get converted to 1080P from the Oppo. I don't want to do that. I want the Oppo to play it like source direct, but upscale DVD to 1080P. I was wondering if Auto would do that.

At the moment I have the Oppo set on 1080P. My projector can do 1080P 24Hz.

I also have a Denon 1611 which I set on Source Direct because it has a crap scaler. If I get a 1080i blu-ray I stick it in that and it outputs 1080i. The same disc in the Oppo sends 1080P.

I just wish the Oppo could send HD disc as Source Direct and upscale DVD to 1080P. It would be the best of both worlds.

Ta Dono

Unless you have a CRT-based projector, its physical display element is progressive. If you send 1080i to the projector it is just going to have to de-interlace it anyway. Why not have the OPPO do that?
--Bob

Generally yes. For music disc preferences (perhaps with hybrid SACD, I forget for sure because I never change it from mch pref.) you may have to stop the disc and open the loader. But for turning 1080p/24 DVD on/off and changing output video formats etc. you can do it on the fly. Once you find what works best in your system I doubt you'll have to change settings often. 24fps DVD is about the only thing I change on the fly here; once in a while I temporarily adjust the "color" in the Oppo for a particularly obnoxious color palette on a (usually TV series) DVD.

Have you done a direct comparison of the Blu-ray output of 1080i from the Denon and 1080p from the Oppo? Any difference in display quality? I have my Opp set to 1080p and European 1080i/50 BDs are output as 1080p/50 and look terrific, as do PAL DVDs upscaled to 1080p/50.

Yep, you guys are right. Good advice here. I did a comparison as suggested above and could not see a difference between 1080i 50Hz (source) and 1080P (converted). I remember reading that everything has to be convered to 1080P on the display anyway. So yep you guys were correct and I'm leaving my Oppo on 1080P output. It seems you can have your cake and eat it too.

Ta Dono

This is one flexible player, as I am now finding out first hand. The handy button on the remote has already been used to switch resolution without disrupting our viewing pleasure and getting the girlfriend all impatient (we tend to start movies a bit too late at night so every shortcut helps)!

So far everything works exactly as expected, so I have a feeling there won't be too many more questions from me. That is a sign of a good product!

Fancy meeting you here - that was my post

I am now a BDP-83 owner. The equivalent settings are in the HDMI OPTIONS menu, namely COLOR SPACE.

Anyone run into issues watching Drive? I was watching the bluray from Netflix yesterday morning and the disc was unplayable after the 59 min mark. I power cycled, reloaded the factory defaults, and cleared persistent storage, but the problem still remains.

I've requested another disc from Netflix, but curious if anyone else has run into this problem too.

The dvd played fine on 83

Same here.

Since i did not see an "official OPPO 93" thread, here is my question again:
any chance in adding the Amazon Video App to the players?
Thank you.

The BDP-93 thread is currently the 2nd sticky thread in the forum .

I assume latest official firmware (BDP83-58-1215) carries over the previous version (BDP83-55-0226)? Essentially I'm confirming whether the "LPCM audio streaming over home network (using DLNS)" is included?

Release date: December 21, 2011.
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP83-58-1215
Loader Version: BE2800 or BT0500
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326

Release date: March 17, 2011
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP83-55-0226
Loader Version: BE2800 or BT0500
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326

4. Support for LPCM audio streaming over home network is restored. The previous firmware did not carry this feature over from older versions. Please note that home network streaming is an experimental feature. You will need a computer running UPnP or DLNA streaming server software that can support transcoding to LPCM in order to use this feature.

okay, thanks.

I'm using WD MyBookLive external (DLNA) drive. I'm wondering/hoping if I'll be able to stream WMA files through my BDP-83 via-etherNET?

The FAQ has:


As long as your files are standard WMA and your DLNA server supports it, you should be ok.

-Bill

great, thanks Bill. I looked all over Oppo's website, could'nt seem to verify this.

I'm setting-up a third, more simplistic, 2-channel stereo bedroom system using an NAD C162 pre-amp/C272 amp combo with Oppo-BDP-83. I want to be able to pipe music to the NAD set-up via-network.