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post #38401 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ Absolutely not. Something is wrong in your setup for use of the OPPO into that display.
--Bob

The PS3 and Oppo83 HDMI outputs both go to a Onkyo PR-SC5507 processor, this processor outputs either signal to the RS15 thru the same HDMI cable. The Onkyo video processor section is set to "Through" (no processing). I have tried bypassing the PR-SC5507 by connecting the Oppo 83 directly to the RS15 and got the same results, the PS3 output is better, clearer, sharper, better color satuaration etc. What might be wrong?

No complaints whatsoever with Oppo 83 Blu-ray rendering.

Thank you!
Edited by Big Picture - 12/16/12 at 2:08pm
post #38402 of 39277
At a guess, you have the 83 set to Source Direct instead of 1080p, or you have the OPPO sending the wrong video format to the projector. I think you need to check your video calibration (settings in player, AVR, and display) using a calibration disc. Also use the info status displays in the AVR and Display to see what they are receiving for video format.
--Bob
post #38403 of 39277
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Originally Posted by gerhard911 View Post

With your 83 off, try pressing the eject button on the unit (not the remote). This should power up the unit and will likely return the disk tray as well. If not, unplug the 83, turn it over so it is resting on it's top (upside down). Plug it back in and press the eject button on the unit. If the tray still does not return I would try to firmly but carefully push the tray back in manually. Good Luck!

I tried everything that you suggested, just will not close. Thanks though.
post #38404 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Bluvette View Post

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Originally Posted by gerhard911 View Post

With your 83 off, try pressing the eject button on the unit (not the remote). This should power up the unit and will likely return the disk tray as well. If not, unplug the 83, turn it over so it is resting on it's top (upside down). Plug it back in and press the eject button on the unit. If the tray still does not return I would try to firmly but carefully push the tray back in manually. Good Luck!

I tried everything that you suggested, just will not close. Thanks though.

I suggest you hold off trying anything else until you talk to OPPO. They may instruct you to just break the tray off its track (since the tray mechanism will be replaced anyway during the service), but don't jump to that conclusion on your own, and do NOT force the tray without their instructions, since if you do it wrong you can damage the laser lens assembly.
--Bob
post #38405 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I suggest you hold off trying anything else until you talk to OPPO. They may instruct you to just break the tray off its track (since the tray mechanism will be replaced anyway during the service), but don't jump to that conclusion on your own, and do NOT force the tray without their instructions, since if you do it wrong you can damage the laser lens assembly.
--Bob

You got it, I will just wait for Oppo. Thanks again.
post #38406 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

At a guess, you have the 83 set to Source Direct instead of 1080p, or you have the OPPO sending the wrong video format to the projector. I think you need to check your video calibration (settings in player, AVR, and display) using a calibration disc. Also use the info status displays in the AVR and Display to see what they are receiving for video format.
--Bob

What should the correct Oppo 83 video format output be?

Thank you!
post #38407 of 39277
^ There's not pat answer for that, as it depend on whether our AVR or Display are doing anything unusual (bugs) with some of the possible choices.

Start with YCbCr 4:4:4 and Deep Color OFF. Leave all of the Picture Adjustment settings in the 83 at their factory default (0) values. Make all video level adjustments using the control in the Display.

Set that way, the 83 will output Reference video levels on HDMI. So the next step is to make sure the AVR isn't screwing those up, and the Display is rendering them properly.

Check that with the aid of a calibration disc. Since your problem is with SD-DVD, you could use Disney's "WOW World of Wonder" SD-DVD. They have a Blu-ray version of that as well.

The PS3 may very well be sending out some unusual stuff depending on how you have it set. Which means the setting currently in your Display may need to be changed to best render what's coming from the OPPO.

Due to the lower resolution of SD-DVD, problems is basic video setup like this are MORE noticeable when playing SD-DVD. But any fixes you make to get SD-DVD right should also make your Blu-rays look even better.
--Bob
post #38408 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I suggest you hold off trying anything else until you talk to OPPO. They may instruct you to just break the tray off its track (since the tray mechanism will be replaced anyway during the service), but don't jump to that conclusion on your own, and do NOT force the tray without their instructions, since if you do it wrong you can damage the laser lens assembly.
--Bob

You were right, you do not want to try and push the door back in, it can cause more damage. I just received a email from Oppo, he said just yank the door out and package it with the unit. Oppo will be sending me a Return shipping authorization soon, great customer service.
post #38409 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ There's not pat answer for that, as it depend on whether our AVR or Display are doing anything unusual (bugs) with some of the possible choices.
Start with YCbCr 4:4:4 and Deep Color OFF. Leave all of the Picture Adjustment settings in the 83 at their factory default (0) values. Make all video level adjustments using the control in the Display.
Set that way, the 83 will output Reference video levels on HDMI. So the next step is to make sure the AVR isn't screwing those up, and the Display is rendering them properly.
Check that with the aid of a calibration disc. Since your problem is with SD-DVD, you could use Disney's "WOW World of Wonder" SD-DVD. They have a Blu-ray version of that as well.
The PS3 may very well be sending out some unusual stuff depending on how you have it set. Which means the setting currently in your Display may need to be changed to best render what's coming from the OPPO.
Due to the lower resolution of SD-DVD, problems is basic video setup like this are MORE noticeable when playing SD-DVD. But any fixes you make to get SD-DVD right should also make your Blu-rays look even better.
--Bob

I get the same results when I completely bypass the AVR and go direct from the Oppo 83 to the projector.

Should the SD DVD image I get from the Oppo 83 be significantly better than what I can get from the PS3?

My RS15 projector has had a pre delivery calibration so there shouldn't be a problem with the projector itself unless the incoming HDMI DVD signal is not being processed correctly by a formating misconfiguration in the Oppo 83 or the projector correct?

Thank you!
Edited by Big Picture - 12/16/12 at 6:33pm
post #38410 of 39277
^ It should be at least as good. The 83 is actually quite capable of "better", but whether you will spot "better" depends on whether your Display is well calibrated for video, and your own critical viewing abilities. For example some people are not sensitive to the de-interlacing screw ups the PS3 is capable of. They don't "see" them.

The point is, if you are seeing the 83 as worse, then that should be a big Red Flag, that something is wrong in the set up.
--Bob
post #38411 of 39277
Finding Nemo audio dropouts mad.gif

Oppo 83 & bitstreaming to a Yamaha - tons of dropouts, more than Brave but most of extremely short duration mad.gif

Will have to dry having the Oppo do the decoding.
post #38412 of 39277
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Originally Posted by Mitch57 View Post

Mine does that all the time. I usually have to push the button on the face of the player multiple times to get it to open or close. It seems to work best when I press the button towards the bottom area of the button. But, it will open and close from the remote consistently every single time. I suspect the problem is with the button contacts themselves and not the actual tray or loader.

I'm a little new to this discussion, but I recently bought an Oppo BDP-83 from an individual on Audiogon who wasn't quite forthright about the functioning of this player. His listing indicated that everything on the player functioned properly, only to find out after I got it that the disc drawer seems to not want to open right away upon the first press of the eject button until about 5 to 10 presses of the button are performed (I hate it when people lie just to make a sale). This problem only seems to happen upon first using the player after it's been sitting unused for a while. Once it opens and plays a disc, I haven't incurred a problem with the drawer opening after that. I know that the warranty has got to be expired by now, but will Oppo still fix this problem at no charge considering that it appears to be a common problem with this player? In every other respect the player is fine, but this is an annoying problem.mad.gif
post #38413 of 39277
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Originally Posted by N2AUDIO View Post

I know that the warranty has got to be expired by now, but will Oppo still fix this problem at no charge considering that it appears to be a common problem with this player? In every other respect the player is fine, but this is an annoying problem.mad.gif

Ask them. If not free, they have fixed-price out of warranty repair.

Sometimes with tray problems leaving a disc in the player helps. You can use the EJECT button to turn on the player and eject the tray at once.

-Bill
post #38414 of 39277
N2AUDIO: Be aware that the tray will not open during some BD loading sequences etc., no matter how often you push "open" during that phase, but usually responds quickly for DVDs. If you leave a BD in the tray when you power off, and you have the 83 set up to automatically play a BD when powered on, you could be getting into this BD loading "no response" phase. Just speculating there as to what you may be seeing with an "unbroken" 83...

Otherwise I had similar issues a short while ago. I found that the tray rails of my heavily-used 83 became unsmooth. Opening it up showed the original tray rail lube had become clumpy and bunched up along the sides. I didn't think this would be a problem, but when I cleaned it off and lightly re-lubed, the tray not only moved more silently/smoothly without the little shudder it had before, it seemed much more responsive to open commands. I am not sure why this should be, but there you have it.
post #38415 of 39277
It’s been a while since I’ve posted to this thread.

I recently returned from China with the officially released Blu-Ray of the film, “Forever Enthralled” (“Mei Lanfang”) – an extremely well done 2008 biopic of the famous Peking Opera star, Mei Lanfang, directed by Chen Kaige (“Farewell My Concubine”). The film has not (yet?) been released in the States in Blu-Ray. This Chinese Blu-Ray is indeed an official release (IRSC-CN-M66-09-0000-0/V.J9) and not a pirate. It is a region-free Blu-Ray that plays beautifully and without any problem on my Sony Vaio Laptop’s “Region A-only” Blu-Ray player. However, it does not play on either of my two Oppo BDP-83 players, each with the most current firmware (BDP83-59-0117).

Here’s what happens… Although the opening Blu-Ray logo screen plays and is followed by the usual Chinese "FBI" Warning Screen, when that is finished, the LED display on the BDP-83 suddenly reads "Stop" and the TV screen then just displays the OPPO logo image screen. The disc does not play on the BDP-83 beyond that point – and none of the BDP-83's (or its remote's) buttons enable the disc to play any further or even to display the disc’s menu.

After trying the usual FAQ-suggested things without any success (making sure BDLive is off, flushing persistent memory, etc.), I contacted Oppo support. Per their request in their almost instantaneous response (no company I’ve ever dealt with is more responsive than Oppo!), I sent them the disc to test… Here’s what they reported…

We received your disc and can confirm that this is an authoring issue with the disc. The disc will work fine on our BDP-9x and BDP-10x series of players, but not the BDP-8x series of players. We have made a copy of the film and sent it to our factory for additional media compatibility testing.

Your disc will be returned to you tomorrow through First Class Mail.

Best Regards,
Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
2629B Terminal Blvd.
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119


I then asked if this is something that might be addressed in a firmware update for the BDP-83 and they replied…

This may be something that we can resolve through a future firmware release, but at this time we do not know when a solution may be developed if one is even developed at all.

Best Regards,
Customer Service


I don’t know if anyone else here is interested in or has had any experience with this Blu-Ray release, but I’m posting this just in case…

r-gordon-7
post #38416 of 39277

Desperately seeking RS-232 kit for Oppo BDP-83

I've asked Oppo if the RS-232 upgrade is still available. They do not have any more kits. Does anyone have an idea where I might find one?
post #38417 of 39277
I rented a copy of the new "Total Recall" on blu-ray last night and the audio dropouts were so bad I couldn't even watch the movie. Anyone else experience this problem? Thanks.
post #38418 of 39277
Problems with this disc have been reported with many different players. The problem is with the disc authoring. It is not really an Oppo problem though future firmware updates to this and many other players may be able to fix the problem in the future. Set the Oppo to LPCM instead of bitstream for this disc and it will work fine.
post #38419 of 39277
wmcclain and cfraser:

Thanks for your input guys. I'll try leaving a disc in the tray and see if that will help.
post #38420 of 39277
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Originally Posted by JazzGuyy View Post

Problems with this disc have been reported with many different players. The problem is with the disc authoring. It is not really an Oppo problem though future firmware updates to this and many other players may be able to fix the problem in the future. Set the Oppo to LPCM instead of bitstream for this disc and it will work fine.

Thank you very much for the info JaxxGuyy. Have a pleasant evening with Miles.
post #38421 of 39277
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Originally Posted by r-gordon-7 View Post

Here’s what happens… Although the opening Blu-Ray logo screen plays and is followed by the usual Chinese "FBI" Warning Screen, when that is finished, the LED display on the BDP-83 suddenly reads "Stop" and the TV screen then just displays the OPPO logo image screen.

That is remarkably like what happens if I try to play some Region B titles when the Oppo is set to a different region: there's no region mismatch message, just the STOP.

If you have a region mod chip on the Oppo, does it make any difference to playback if you explicitly set it to Region C for that particular disc?

I personally don't think it is right that the player manufacturers have to fix (or workaround) authoring errors on discs and doing so just encourages the studios to bend the rules even further.
post #38422 of 39277
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Originally Posted by IanD View Post

That is remarkably like what happens if I try to play some Region B titles when the Oppo is set to a different region: there's no region mismatch message, just the STOP.
If you have a region mod chip on the Oppo, does it make any difference to playback if you explicitly set it to Region C for that particular disc?
I personally don't think it is right that the player manufacturers have to fix (or workaround) authoring errors on discs and doing so just encourages the studios to bend the rules even further.

Both of my BDP-83 players do have a region mod chip and so before contacting Oppo, I did try the disc after resetting the region to Region C (and even to Region B once too, just in case). In each instance, however, the results were exactly the same as when the BDP-83 was set to Region A (and never with a "region mismatch message" appearing), further reinforcing my belief that the disc was indeed all-region and that the problem lies elsewhere. BTW, I reported all this to Oppo when I first contacted them, so that they would know that region mismatch has been effectively eliminated as a cause for the problem.
post #38423 of 39277
Thread Starter 
It is possible the disc has not region encoding. I know some DVDs would produce similar errors when there was no DVD Region. The player will need to see a region lock, even if it is DVD Region 0 or Blu-ray A/B/C.
post #38424 of 39277
AAC MULTICHANNEL OR STEREO

The player does not display whether the audio is Stereo or multichannel when playing AAC tracks on media files via usb. My 83SE is connected to a parasound P7 via analogue outs on both, the stereo and multichannel outputs. I have to actually go to the spekers to listen to see if it is stereo or multichannel and then switch between stereo or multchannel on th P7. It would be nice if the Oppo could tell me what format is playing and save me the trouble.
post #38425 of 39277
I haven't been in this forum for years, but for the first time ever there is a disc my 83 wont play "The Amazing Spider-man". The previews play fine, it gets to the main menu and i select play the player goes to 0:0000 and freezes, i have to turn it off to fix it and i have tried different discs (3 to be exact) of the movie and its the same every time. I even tried going in through scene selection and it still freezes no matter which scene i choose.

Has anyone successfully watched this movie on their 83? BTW my firmware is up to date. There was someone in an earlier post complaining about audio dropouts on total recall, had the same issue yesterday but anytime the audio drops out i rewind the movie a few seconds and it comes back, that's how i got through the movie smile.gif. I also get the disc tray not opening every once in a while, i guess its time to get that 105 I've been eyeing.
post #38426 of 39277
Well, i tried playing Dark Shadows last night and had the same problem so i got frustrated and took off the top of the player to clean the lens, but i had no alcohol so i opted for some "Five O'Clock" vodka 80 proof...yes you read that right smile.gif. I cleaned the lens and it played that disc like a new spanking player,

After the movie i tried a new disc i just bought but was going to return ( The Flowers of War Soundtrack) due to unlistenable cracks and pops in the sound, but now it plays without a hitch....Now if only i can fix the disc tray issue.
post #38427 of 39277
My 83 played the Netflix rental of Amazing Spider-Man perfectly, however, had an awful time playing Total Recall - had to change OPPO settings to output LPCM audio then sound did not continually dropout.
post #38428 of 39277
Looks like i spoke too soon, even though it played Dark Shadows which it wouldn't play before, Its not playing Amazing Spider man.
post #38429 of 39277
Thread Starter 
If the player is stopping with all zeroes, dashes, or top menu on the front panel but no picture, then you likely just need to Erase BD-Video Data (Device Setup->Persistent Storage) and disable BD-Live (Network Setup). Exit Setup, turn off the player then turn it back on. The player should now load these discs.
post #38430 of 39277
My 83 played the Netflix Spiderman just fine.
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